CarolineL Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 What’s going on??? Can someone please explain from Affinity’s point of view. Alexhibition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When_Subscription Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Well holy sh#t, I was about to post the old "what chu talkin bout Willis" line, but thought I'd do a quick Google first, and wow 😲 This is HUGE news, and I'm a little miffed we didn't hear it first from the company we have supported and trusted for many years. I personally hate what Canva has done to the design industry, however I can only assume they have the $$ and resources to actually give Adobe a run for their money, on top of that we may finally get image tracing!! Speaking of money, we should prepare for the inevitable subscription-based model, and / or price increase to return the unconfirmed billion-dollar acquisition to investors pockets. Overall, I'm quite torn about this news, yet not surprised. The honeymoon is over. Timespider, Enea, jc4d and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I can say I am not happy with this. Best regards! myclay, Timespider, Pixel and Poly and 1 other 4 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When_Subscription Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Canva announcement https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscuremetaphor Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 If they turn it into a subscription, then there's no reason for me to not just go back to Adobe. This feels like a nail in the coffin. Pixel and Poly, Chills, pinkfluffyunicorn and 11 others 8 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 This does appear a little concerning. Westerwälder and Pixel and Poly 2 Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel_komorov Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Yeah, just saw it. And I'm angry. I get that money must come, but would rather pay subscription to Serif if it's necessary, than see Affinity being inevitably enshitted. f*** what a sad strat of a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When_Subscription Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 It definitely feels like we've been played, lied to, burned, on sold if you will. But, unfortunately, it's a timely reminder that entire the world revolves around money. And as a business grows to the heights of Affinity, it's no longer about "satisfying end user", it all about satisfying the wants of investors, and lining the pockets of those at the top. Us mere peasants serve no purpose but to buy into the startup story, and consume, over and over again. The sad reality is, most won't switch to the competition, because they're just as bad, so instead we'll stick with the lessor of two evils. But only time will tell, I guess. thomas.dahl, Bwood, Dave Quail and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Turtle Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 It’s very concerning indeed. I think it’s inevitable they will make it a subscription, which pretty much removes it’s usp. Very sad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3rry Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Difficult times are coming... OzNate and bures 1 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, iPad 8, MACOS Sonoma & iPadOS, Affinity V2-Universallizenz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 A Statement from Ash... https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statement/ Patrick Connor 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.4.2 | Affinity Photo 2.4.2 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.2 Affinity Designer Beta 2.5.0 (2415) | Affinity Photo Beta 2.5.0 (2415) | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.5.0 (2415) Affinity Designer 1.7.3 | Affinity Photo 1.7.3 | Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 MacBook Pro 16GB, macOS Monterey 12.7.4, Magic Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartoffeltree Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Edit: Deleted old post, statement is out. Let's see what the future brings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Dunbar Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Hi. I just bought the suite and finally deleted my Adobe account, mainly because of the perpetual licence. Then read this. Perfect example of Sod’s Law. OzNate and thomas.dahl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When_Subscription Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, Hangman said: A Statement from Ash... https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statement/ Yep, as Ash said, nothing changes.... until it does. Sam LaGargouille, myclay, Dave Quail and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Turtle Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, LunchMoney_Matt said: Yep, as Ash said, nothing changes.... until it does. Yep. No changes to the pricing structure, until we change it. Markio, Dave Quail, Mithferion and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc4d Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 This brings me memories when TheaRender was bought by Altair, they said the same exact words... at the end they killed many software support and stayed with two only out of 5 (I think). Or when old adobe's CEO became C4D's CEO and the software went down the drain into a subscription model only. I think Photoline will be the only one standing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woefi Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 the statement reads as "nothing changes regarding v2" (pricing , licensing, updates) ...until the next major version (v3?) is released. So, we are maybe one or two years safe? Chills and Dave Quail 1 1 Quote Main machine: iMac 2019 (21,5-inch 4k, 6core), 64GB RAM, 1TB nvme + 2TB ssd, running on Mac OS 13; Display setup: 28" 5k Display (primary) + 21,5" iMac4k-Display for studio panels (secondary); Keyboard layout: german apple extended keyboard (aluminium); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Look at it from a positive point of view. Functions that are missing in the Affinity programs could now be developed faster! Sure, there will be changes, many positive, some negative. I sincerely hope that the Affinity programs will not come as a subscription model and that new functions will not be offered as "pay-to-win" options. kartoffeltree, Pšenda, Alfred and 2 others 5 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Komatös said: Look at it from a positive point of view. Functions that are missing in the Affinity programs could now be developed faster! From an article in Business Wire: Quote Canva … is now used by more than 175 million people across 190 countries and in more than 100 languages Is it too much to hope that their multilingual experience could be leveraged to address the Affinity apps’ current lack of support for Indic and RTL languages? jmwellborn 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Sad news ----- I wonder how many users will stick with affinity when it requires a subscription? A lot of us have been here before, I remember eagerly awaiting CS7 and getting a kick in the nads, although I still do occasionally use CS5 so I suppose Affinity 2 is gonna be the end of my journey, maybe we'll get another year before the canva subscription becomes the only way forward. Now the search goes on for a replacement = NO SUBSCRIPTION Rondo and kenmcd 2 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Disappointed Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 You helped us start a movement. Today, that movement becomes a revolution. Stop yourself, Ash. We're not children. Rhetoric doesn't change reality, nauseating rhetoric just cuts away all credibility, adding insult to injury. We've seen this twenty? forty? a hundred times? before. A few years ago, German Gravit was acquired by Corel, and Corel wrote "Welcome to the Corel family". It's not a family. I followed the individual German founders' naive optimism on their LinkedIn profiles, but today they are FIRED and Gravit is no longer being developed. A few years later, Corel changed plans, and the little fish discovered the concept of restructuring and downsizing. That wasn't family. It was melting down and minimising. Serif, I have long urged you to become mature and professionals as a company internally, to survive as a company or to avoid this happening. You lacked the ability or will to do so, you have fundamentally failed in developing the company's culture, structure, and professionalism over several decades and now we see this business bullshit and we well know where it ends! You have simply failed monumentally, and if you had read a bit in both business history books and general history books, then you would know how tragically many revolutions have ended. I am not afraid of subscriptions like the others. I see far more serious things happening within a couple of years with the products, and I'm starting to take my precautions today. Thank goodness I only use Designer. Maybe I and we are lucky, but precautions are there to ensure the worse scenario. And to all you fanboys in here I have chided for years: this is where a lack of professionalism ends, and you also have a part in it. I hold the mentality accountable for it ending here. Another Shirt, zeckeh, dvst and 8 others 10 1 Quote Experienced Quality Assurance Manager - I strive for excellence in complex professional illustrations through efficient workflows in modern applications, supporting me in achieving my and my colleagues' goals through the most achievable usability and contemporary, easy-to-use user interfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catshill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Disappointed but not surprised by this. The excitement of version 1 and new functions slowed and the much-touted version 2 was welcome but not that exciting. The numbers simply didn't add up. debraspicher and VectorVonDoom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel_komorov Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Bit Disappointed said: Gravit is no longer being developed I don't know what's worse scenario incorporating some things into Canva, then killing Affinity or slowly turning it into subscription, ad and ai ridden pile of bloated hot shit. The end is on horizon, sadly kenmcd, Dave Quail and Chills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visnes Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Canva is definitely going to turn Affinity into a subscription service. And when that happens... kenmcd, jc4d, Rondo and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvS Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I really hope that Canva never applies their pricing model to Affinity... It's actually quite a shame that they haven't learned from the history of other software. Thinking of Aldus Pagemaker in the late 80s, acquired by Adobe = it no longer exists shortly afterwards, and there are many more that could no longer keep the name and identity afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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