Staff Ash Posted October 24, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 24, 2023 Apps: All Platforms: macOS, Windows and iPad We have now added a spiral tool which is available from the shape tools flyout. This is something we have had many requests for, but also varying requests as to the type of result wanted. For that reason we have tried to make this as flexible as possible, both offering different types of spiral and variables to adjust. When you create a spiral you will see from the context toolbar the different options available. Here are some examples of what you can create with the tool: Spiral Type: Linear Spiral Type: Decaying Spiral Type: Semi-Circular This type replicates the way many people have been creating a spiral in Affinity - effectively by joining decreasing semi circular arcs together. With this type we also offer a counter Semi-circular option which returns the spiral back on itself: Spiral Type: Fibonacci Spiral Type: Plotted Burny, BBkuro, MikeTO and 38 others 36 5 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 A really really cool new addition, thank you... Ash, Helmar, Frozen Death Knight and 1 other 4 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnobelix Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Waited a long time, but now it's here, the spiral tool.👍👍 Initial tests with the new tool are promising. Thanks to the Serif team. Cheers Ash, Frozen Death Knight and Helmar 3 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5: Affinity Photo 1.10.6: Affinity Designer 2.5: Affinity Designer 1.10.6: Affinity Publisher 2.5: Affinity Publisher 1.10.6: Windows 11 Pro (Version 23H2 Build (22631.4112) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Nice additional tool. To bad it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. The presence of nodes suggests as such but it would only draw a new spiral. Maybe have something like this: 2023-10-25 13-58-04.mp4 Affitoom, jc4d, AHAM and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 @Ash wonderful news! Quick question: is there any chance to have a TRUE PHI-ratio spiral tool option (in contradistinction to the Fibonacci option which is an integer approximation) ? By TRUE spiral, i mean a spiral that is CONTINUOUSLY changing its rate of expansion/contraction, not just at periodic intervals like 90 degrees etc, but continuously along every point on the spiral… 🌀 Thanks for all you do! Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, Return said: Nice additional tool. To bad it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. The presence of nodes suggests as such but it would only draw a new spiral. +1 for on-canvas shape controls (not only Context toolbar) Affitoom, oscarlosan and Helmar 3 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Death Knight Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Thanks for adding this in! Been playing around with the settings and I like how many shape options there are packed into this tool. Agree with the above posts, but overall, nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, ronnyb said: @Ash wonderful news! Quick question: is there any chance to have a TRUE PHI-ratio spiral tool option (in contradistinction to the Fibonacci option which is an integer approximation) ? By TRUE spiral, i mean a spiral that is CONTINUOUSLY changing its rate of expansion/contraction, not just at periodic intervals like 90 degrees etc, but continuously along every point on the spiral… 🌀 Thanks for all you do! Yes - the construction for a Phi spiral would be fundamentally different to Fibonacci. The Fibonacci we build from the centre following the sequence. A Phi spiral would be a constant scaling from the outside. I'll have a think. Actually - try using the Decaying spiral, set "Decay per segment" and use 100-(100/phi) for the Decay value. I could probably add this as a preset. We do have a continuous spiral - it's the plotted one. Each point is correctly placed. Currently it's line segments only (though you can increase that to add accuracy). If I can figure out the maths for correct(ish) curve segments I'll add it. Frozen Death Knight, GRAFKOM, jc4d and 7 others 6 4 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Return said: Maybe like so: This looks nice, and it has more options than the Spiral found in Inkscape. Hope it's added since I can see the benefits. By the hope, hope I can participate in this Beta run, Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affinityconfusesme Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 +1 for on canvas shape controls also. Helmar and ronnyb 2 Quote New hardware dell inspiron 3030 i5 14400/16GB DDR5/UHD 730 graphics Acer KB202 27in 1080p monitor Affinity Photo 1.10.6 Affinity photo 2 2.5.3 Affinity Designer 2 2.5.3 Affinity Publisher 2 2.5.3 on Windows 11 Pro version 24H2 Beta builds as they come out. canon 80d| sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD | Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2023 I can look into on-canvas controls, but not all values/properties can be easily represented with a control point. Rudolphus, Aammppaa, loukash and 4 others 4 3 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Nice tool. Is there much call for the "Semi-Circular" spiral? I get that it's a recreation of the workaround people have been using, but with a true Linear spiral, I can't see a use case for it. The double-back option is nice. Could that be added to other spirals as well? Andrew Buckle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, prophet said: Nice tool. Is there much call for the "Semi-Circular" spiral? I get that it's a recreation of the workaround people have been using, but with a true Linear spiral, I can't see a use case for it. The double-back option is nice. Could that be added to other spirals as well? Yes, because it is the only curved spiral that finishes in the centre of the shape - all other curved spirals have a non-centred end. The plotted one achieves this (currently) at the expense of it using straight lines to link the procedurally placed points. ronnyb 1 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl_grey Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped after open "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Affitoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 3:21 PM, Ash said: When you create a spiral you will see from the context toolbar the different options available. Very intuitive to use. I love it! 12 hours ago, Return said: it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. Yes, those red dot handles would be nice. 41 minutes ago, earl_grey said: "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Got confused by "ctrl" first, but for the record, it's cmd-click on Mac. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, earl_grey said: in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped On Mac there are actually symbols inside the buttons, not text. Text appears only as tooltip. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted October 26, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 26, 2023 8 hours ago, earl_grey said: in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped after open "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Thanks! I'll get this logged with development! Affinityconfusesme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md_germany Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 nice SillyWalk, pruus and Kasper-V 3 Quote iMac 27'' | Mac OS X Sonoma 14.6.1 | Affinity 2.5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Buckle Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Brilliant, a super useful addition to AP. Would love to see a jitter / randomization feature added to it so each node is slightly jittered from its defined position. And perhaps a separate segment feature so each segment is a curve which can then be moved independently ? (though this would end up lots of curves, they could then be quickly re-coloured as well adding different strokes and stroke settings to them as well as different effects etc to each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin M Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Awesome. Really gonna help with engraving designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomi02118 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I forgot how much I wanted this feature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Buckle Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Would love to see a quick way to convert the stroke into a fill so you then get a proper filled spiral ? Workaround being a selection for the layer and just filling that (is there another way ? ) Edited October 26, 2023 by Andrew Buckle added a pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted October 26, 2023 Staff Share Posted October 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Andrew Buckle said: Would love to see a quick way to convert the stroke into a fill so you then get a proper filled spiral ? Workaround being a selection for the layer and just filling that (is there another way ? ) Expand Stroke does exactly this already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricP Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 really nice job. Thank you Serif ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Fun fact: Copying a Spiral from v2.3 to a v2.2.1 document will keep it as a "Spiral" object, albeit altering the curve slightly. And with no options to manipulate the spiral any furter apart from the standard options available for any vector shape. So apparently some basic spiral support was already present in v2.x under the hood. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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