Staff Ash Posted October 24, 2023 Staff Posted October 24, 2023 Apps: All Platforms: macOS, Windows and iPad We have now added a spiral tool which is available from the shape tools flyout. This is something we have had many requests for, but also varying requests as to the type of result wanted. For that reason we have tried to make this as flexible as possible, both offering different types of spiral and variables to adjust. When you create a spiral you will see from the context toolbar the different options available. Here are some examples of what you can create with the tool: Spiral Type: Linear Spiral Type: Decaying Spiral Type: Semi-Circular This type replicates the way many people have been creating a spiral in Affinity - effectively by joining decreasing semi circular arcs together. With this type we also offer a counter Semi-circular option which returns the spiral back on itself: Spiral Type: Fibonacci Spiral Type: Plotted HugoIII, Rondem, ronnyb and 38 others 36 5 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2
Hangman Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 A really really cool new addition, thank you... Ash, ronnyb, Helmar and 1 other 4 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3125 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3125 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Gnobelix Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Waited a long time, but now it's here, the spiral tool.👍👍 Initial tests with the new tool are promising. Thanks to the Serif team. Cheers Frozen Death Knight, Ash and Helmar 3 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5: Affinity Photo 1.10.6: Affinity Designer 2.5: Affinity Designer 1.10.6: Affinity Publisher 2.5: Affinity Publisher 1.10.6: Windows 11 Pro (Version 24H2 Build (26100.3037)
Circulus Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Nice additional tool. To bad it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. The presence of nodes suggests as such but it would only draw a new spiral. Maybe have something like this: 2023-10-25 13-58-04.mp4 BBG3, md_germany, Hilltop and 13 others 16 Quote I think Serif wants us to be only creative in finding workarounds to use their tools. I have an affinity with Jumping through Hoops and over Humps. Dealing with Speedbumps and finding Work-A-Roundabouts. I'm getting dizzy from all that spinning and jumping.
ronnyb Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 @Ash wonderful news! Quick question: is there any chance to have a TRUE PHI-ratio spiral tool option (in contradistinction to the Fibonacci option which is an integer approximation) ? By TRUE spiral, i mean a spiral that is CONTINUOUSLY changing its rate of expansion/contraction, not just at periodic intervals like 90 degrees etc, but continuously along every point on the spiral… 🌀 Thanks for all you do! Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
ronnyb Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, Return said: Nice additional tool. To bad it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. The presence of nodes suggests as such but it would only draw a new spiral. +1 for on-canvas shape controls (not only Context toolbar) Affitoom, oscarlosan and Helmar 3 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
Frozen Death Knight Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Thanks for adding this in! Been playing around with the settings and I like how many shape options there are packed into this tool. Agree with the above posts, but overall, nice job! Quote
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, ronnyb said: @Ash wonderful news! Quick question: is there any chance to have a TRUE PHI-ratio spiral tool option (in contradistinction to the Fibonacci option which is an integer approximation) ? By TRUE spiral, i mean a spiral that is CONTINUOUSLY changing its rate of expansion/contraction, not just at periodic intervals like 90 degrees etc, but continuously along every point on the spiral… 🌀 Thanks for all you do! Yes - the construction for a Phi spiral would be fundamentally different to Fibonacci. The Fibonacci we build from the centre following the sequence. A Phi spiral would be a constant scaling from the outside. I'll have a think. Actually - try using the Decaying spiral, set "Decay per segment" and use 100-(100/phi) for the Decay value. I could probably add this as a preset. We do have a continuous spiral - it's the plotted one. Each point is correctly placed. Currently it's line segments only (though you can increase that to add accuracy). If I can figure out the maths for correct(ish) curve segments I'll add it. pruus, Mithferion, Benfischer and 7 others 6 4 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB
Mithferion Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Return said: Maybe like so: This looks nice, and it has more options than the Spiral found in Inkscape. Hope it's added since I can see the benefits. By the hope, hope I can participate in this Beta run, Best regards! Quote Windows 10 and Windows 11 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect
Affinityconfusesme Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 +1 for on canvas shape controls also. Helmar and ronnyb 2 Quote New hardware dell inspiron 3030 i5 14400/16GB DDR5/UHD 730 graphics Acer KB202 27in 1080p monitor Affinity Photo 1.10.6 Affinity photo 2 2.5.3 Affinity Designer 2 2.5.3 Affinity Publisher 2 2.5.3 on Windows 11 Pro version 24H2 Beta builds as they come out. canon 80d| sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD | Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Posted October 25, 2023 I can look into on-canvas controls, but not all values/properties can be easily represented with a control point. Circulus, Mithferion, loukash and 4 others 4 3 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB
prophet Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Nice tool. Is there much call for the "Semi-Circular" spiral? I get that it's a recreation of the workaround people have been using, but with a true Linear spiral, I can't see a use case for it. The double-back option is nice. Could that be added to other spirals as well? Andrew Buckle 1 Quote
Staff Ben Posted October 25, 2023 Staff Posted October 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, prophet said: Nice tool. Is there much call for the "Semi-Circular" spiral? I get that it's a recreation of the workaround people have been using, but with a true Linear spiral, I can't see a use case for it. The double-back option is nice. Could that be added to other spirals as well? Yes, because it is the only curved spiral that finishes in the centre of the shape - all other curved spirals have a non-centred end. The plotted one achieves this (currently) at the expense of it using straight lines to link the procedurally placed points. ronnyb 1 Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB
earl_grey Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped after open "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Affitoom 1 Quote
loukash Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 3:21 PM, Ash said: When you create a spiral you will see from the context toolbar the different options available. Very intuitive to use. I love it! 12 hours ago, Return said: it only has context toolbar options and none on canvas like other quick shapes. Yes, those red dot handles would be nice. 41 minutes ago, earl_grey said: "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Got confused by "ctrl" first, but for the record, it's cmd-click on Mac. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, earl_grey said: in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped On Mac there are actually symbols inside the buttons, not text. Text appears only as tooltip. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
Staff Sean P Posted October 26, 2023 Staff Posted October 26, 2023 8 hours ago, earl_grey said: in Windows version, some buttons and options are clipped after open "Create Spiral" CTRL+left mouse click Thanks! I'll get this logged with development! Affinityconfusesme 1 Quote
md_germany Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 nice pruus, SillyWalk and Kasper-V 3 Quote iMac 27'' | Mac OS X Sequoia 15.1 | Affinity 2.5.5
Andrew Buckle Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Brilliant, a super useful addition to AP. Would love to see a jitter / randomization feature added to it so each node is slightly jittered from its defined position. And perhaps a separate segment feature so each segment is a curve which can then be moved independently ? (though this would end up lots of curves, they could then be quickly re-coloured as well adding different strokes and stroke settings to them as well as different effects etc to each Quote
Kevin M Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Awesome. Really gonna help with engraving designs. Quote
nomi02118 Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 I forgot how much I wanted this feature! Quote
Andrew Buckle Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Would love to see a quick way to convert the stroke into a fill so you then get a proper filled spiral ? Workaround being a selection for the layer and just filling that (is there another way ? ) Edited October 26, 2023 by Andrew Buckle added a pic Quote
Staff Sean P Posted October 26, 2023 Staff Posted October 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Andrew Buckle said: Would love to see a quick way to convert the stroke into a fill so you then get a proper filled spiral ? Workaround being a selection for the layer and just filling that (is there another way ? ) Expand Stroke does exactly this already! Quote
loukash Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Fun fact: Copying a Spiral from v2.3 to a v2.2.1 document will keep it as a "Spiral" object, albeit altering the curve slightly. And with no options to manipulate the spiral any furter apart from the standard options available for any vector shape. So apparently some basic spiral support was already present in v2.x under the hood. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
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