Staff Sean P Posted November 8, 2023 Staff Posted November 8, 2023 11 hours ago, Frozen Death Knight said: Noticed that Decay does not work when hovering over the name to slide the values on Windows. Thanks FDK, I'll get that passed over. Frozen Death Knight 1 Quote
ronnyb Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 8:15 AM, Ben said: Yes - the construction for a Phi spiral would be fundamentally different to Fibonacci. The Fibonacci we build from the centre following the sequence. A Phi spiral would be a constant scaling from the outside. I'll have a think. Actually - try using the Decaying spiral, set "Decay per segment" and use 100-(100/phi) for the Decay value. I could probably add this as a preset. We do have a continuous spiral - it's the plotted one. Each point is correctly placed. Currently it's line segments only (though you can increase that to add accuracy). If I can figure out the maths for correct(ish) curve segments I'll add it. Hey @Ben One more question about types of spirals: Can the tool can produce polygonal spirals based on a simple recursive / flip pattern....? Below is an example of these spirals using 3-9 sided polygons, recursively scaled and flipped, creating the spiral as the blue line advances across each consecutive polygon while rotating around the center... benam 1 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
zakcat Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 to any, Just been using AD for about a month. I'm using iPad AD 2.2.1 I'm not seeing a spiral tool in shapes. What am i missing? Thanks! Quote
GarryP Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, zakcat said: I'm using iPad AD 2.2.1 I'm not seeing a spiral tool in shapes. Welcome to the forums @zakcat This thread is in a Beta testing section of the forums, specifically for the 2.3 beta. Look at the breadcrumbs at the top of the page to see where you are in the forums. For example: Home > Beta Software Forums > v2.3 New Features and Improvements > Spiral Tool The spiral tool is currently only available in the 2.3 beta. This is why you can’t see that tool in 2.2.1. Quote
lepr Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 4:04 PM, ronnyb said: Can the tool can produce polygonal spirals based on a simple recursive / flip pattern....? Below is an example of these spirals using 3-9 sided polygons, recursively scaled and flipped, creating the spiral as the blue line advances across each consecutive polygon while rotating around the center... It can, but you'll need to calculate the decay percentage for a given polygon: cusped decaying spirals.afdesign ronnyb 1 Quote
ronnyb Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 7 hours ago, lepr said: calculate the decay percentage for a given polygon Thanks @lepr So from your example file, am i correct in calculating the decay angle for this type of spiral as ½ of the encompassing polygon’s corner angle? Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
lepr Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, ronnyb said: am i correct in calculating the decay angle for this type of spiral as ½ of the encompassing polygon’s corner angle? The segment angle for the spiral is ½ of the exterior angle of the polygon, so that's 180/n, where n is the number of sides of the polygon. ronnyb 1 Quote
ronnyb Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, lepr said: The segment angle for the spiral is ½ of the exterior angle of the polygon, so that's 180/n, where n is the number of sides of the polygon. Got it... and how did u figure out the "Decay Ratio" to be 93.75%? Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
lepr Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, ronnyb said: Got it... and how did u figure out the "Decay Ratio" to be 93.75%? 93.75% is the decay of the radius for one turn of a 4-gon spiral only. It's different for each n-gon. Instead of explaining how to calculate the per-turn decay for an n-gon spiral, it's easier to tell you to use the per-segment decay option and enter the expression "1-cos(a)", without quote marks and where a is the segment angle. ronnyb and jussi 2 Quote
ronnyb Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, lepr said: Instead of explaining how to calculate the per-turn decay for an n-gon spiral, it's easier to tell you to use the per-segment decay option and enter the expression "1-cos(a)", without quote marks and where a is the segment angle. Ok I duplicated your existing Spiral in Artboard1 in your sample file, and input the formula as specified (no quotes and 45 for the cos value) into the Decay% field and I get something very different (in green) and gives me a decay of 29.28% ...? Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
lepr Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, ronnyb said: Ok I duplicated your existing Spiral in Artboard1 in your sample file, and input the formula as specified (no quotes and 45 for the cos value) into the Decay% field and I get something very different (in green) and gives me a decay of 29.28% ...? You've used the per-turn decay option. I told you to use the per-segment decay option and the "1 - cos(a)" expression. ronnyb 1 Quote
ronnyb Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Thanks, got it working now, I didn't click that little per turn icon! lepr 1 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1
VitalRealm Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Happy to see that a Spiral Tool is coming out soon @Ash since you were asking about the results that people want: I would highly appreciate to be able to construct Logarithmic spirals Thanks! ronnyb 1 Quote
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted November 14, 2023 Staff Posted November 14, 2023 The issue "[Win] Spiral Tool: Decay text label cannot be dragged on Windows" (REF: AF-1105) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.0.2139". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On the Context Toolbar there's a + icon between the Turns field and the "Set the percentage of the partial turn of the spiral" field: It doesn't seem to have a Tooltip. Clicking it doesn't seem to make a change to any of the spiral designs I've tried, nor the parameters, but I see that the History panel records "Set spiral part turn amount". What is it doing? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Old Bruce Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: What is it doing? It is adding to the starting (or centre) point a bunch of degrees. If you have 4 turns and set that to be 360 degrees then you have 5 turns. Change it to 90 degrees and the starting point is now at 90 degrees to the end (or outer) point. walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
walt.farrell Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: It is adding to the starting (or centre) point a bunch of degrees. If you have 4 turns and set that to be 360 degrees then you have 5 turns. Change it to 90 degrees and the starting point is now at 90 degrees to the end (or outer) point. Thanks, Bruce, but what "that" are you referring to. There is no value field to go along with the + sign, unless it is the field that follows it, which is in % not degrees. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Old Bruce Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 @walt.farrell, I just noticed you have the type set to decay, this + does nothing there. Set it to Linear or SemiCircular or something other than Fibonacci of Decay. Plus here on Mac OS 12.7.1 I do see tooltips. jussi 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Affinityconfusesme Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 Hey @Ben any updates on getting on-canvas controls for the spiral tool? Quote New hardware dell inspiron 3030 i5 14400/16GB DDR5/UHD 730 graphics Acer KB202 27in 1080p monitor Affinity Photo 1.10.6 Affinity photo 2 2.5.3 Affinity Designer 2 2.5.3 Affinity Publisher 2 2.5.3 on Windows 11 Pro version 24H2 Beta builds as they come out. canon 80d| sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD | Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black
lepr Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 4:44 PM, Old Bruce said: I just noticed you have the type set to decay, this + does nothing there. The partial turn angle is effective for all of the spiral styles, but minimum radius of the decaying style needs to be small enough to allow all turns and the partial turn to be drawn. Quote
lepr Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 4:40 PM, walt.farrell said: There is no value field to go along with the + sign, unless it is the field that follows it, which is in % not degrees. It is that value in the field to the immediate right of the "+". That has tooltip "Set the angle of the partial turn of the spiral" and the value is in degrees in the macOS app. Quote
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted November 28, 2023 Staff Posted November 28, 2023 The issue "[macOS] Adjusting Spiral Tool's angle sliders with 6 decimal places seems off." (REF: AF-961) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.0.2139". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. ronnyb 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 10:16 AM, lepr said: It is that value in the field to the immediate right of the "+". That has tooltip "Set the angle of the partial turn of the spiral" and the value is in degrees in the macOS app. Thanks. For me, today, it's also in degrees in both Windows and macOS. Not sure why it was in % before. However, on Windows the + sign seems to act as a button in some way. I can click on it, and the History panel records "Set spiral part turn amount" for each click of the "button", though the field next to it and the spiral itself do not change. That does not happen on macOS. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Staff Sean P Posted November 29, 2023 Staff Posted November 29, 2023 12 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Thanks. For me, today, it's also in degrees in both Windows and macOS. Not sure why it was in % before. However, on Windows the + sign seems to act as a button in some way. I can click on it, and the History panel records "Set spiral part turn amount" for each click of the "button", though the field next to it and the spiral itself do not change. That does not happen on macOS. The Spiral Tool's Partial Turns field will switch to use percentage if you have enabled 'Use Cusped Segments'. walt.farrell and lepr 2 Quote
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