Staff Ash Posted January 3 Staff Share Posted January 3 Apps: All Platforms: Windows, macOS and iPad Within alignment options you will see three new options to make all items in your current selection adopt the same width, height or rotation. By default this will transform all objects to match the first item selected, or alternatively if a key object has been nominated (alt-click) it will use that as the source. Additionally you can choose to maintain the aspect ratio of the objects being resized. On desktop this is available via the alignment dropdown: And on iPad via the alignment options panel which you can get to via the transform panel: Ezbaze, B0R10N, Benfischer and 29 others 26 6 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted January 3 Staff Share Posted January 3 Known Issues in this feature A list of unresolved issues for this feature, reported by users AF-2057 - Make Same gives unexpected results on 2 node curves Released Fixes A list of issues for this feature, available in the current beta build Upcoming Fixes A list of issues for this feature, which will be available in a forthcoming build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_shcherbakov Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Oh yeah, very nice Timespider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I believe this has been requested before: In the case of the Desktop version, having a Panel dedicated for this alignment actions would be better than the current Dropdown option. Still, nice additions. Best regards! dominik, 4dimage, loukash and 10 others 12 1 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pruus Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Well done! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Awesome addition, the only thing is the icons are VERY similar. Perhaps the Rotate icon could use a circular dashed line instead of the same square. Since square rotation doesn't make sense visually, it obfuscates that icons function and adds confusion to the other 2. But great functionality!! Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Sonoma 14.4.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I'm curious why these new functions were added to Alignment rather than being added to Transform, though. They feel more like object transformation actions than object alignment actions. Am I missing some aspect of how this works? GRAFKOM, Timespider, Paul Mudditt and 7 others 10 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrother Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 @Ash any chance fo rollback/undo to old behavior and allow users to select "Align to" option in the Alignment panel first before the actual align operation? Curent after a change between app version it is greyed out until you choose an align option. There wher complaints about that change. GRAFKOM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I'm curious why these new functions were added to Alignment rather than being added to Transform, though. They feel more like object transformation actions than object alignment actions. Am I missing some aspect of how this works? Alignment can also be seen as a type of transformation, but it happens across a set of objects. Similarly, Aligning rotation implies transforming one or several objects in relation to another object. walt.farrell and Frozen Death Knight 2 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Sonoma 14.4.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I see Ronny's point, alignment is a form of transformation, but as Walt pointed out, it seems like an odd place for the feature. That being said, I'm currently creating a lot of family trees in Designer which is tedious. I aligned and changed the width of rectangles many times yesterday. While I might expect these to be in separate windows, it would actually save me time to have them grouped like they are now. I just tried it and it worked great. But the placement of the controls does feel off. walt.farrell 1 Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Thanks! 2 hours ago, Mithferion said: I believe this has been requested before: In the case of the Desktop version, having a Panel dedicated for this alignment actions would be better than the current Dropdown option. Still, nice additions. Best regards! +1 for this! 😜 GRAFKOM, jmwellborn and Affinityconfusesme 3 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affinityconfusesme Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 +1 for a separate panel for alignment controls. GRAFKOM 1 Quote Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Ryzen 7 5700U Rx Vega 8 graphics 16GB RAM (15.3 usable) Acer KB202 27in 1080p monitor Affinity Photo 1.10.6 Affinity photo 2 2.4.2 Affinity Designer 2 2.4.2 Affinity Publisher 2 2.4.2 on Windows 11 Pro version 23H2 Beta builds as they come out. canon 80d| sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD | Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, Mithferion said: having a Panel dedicated for this alignment actions would be better than the current Dropdown option. There is a thing why it shouldn't be a "regular" panel: The Apply/Cancel buttons. Regular Studio panels don't and shouldn't have these buttons. But it should be a regular floating window with these buttons, available from a menu, not just as a toolbar button popout. This is a usability issue, as I, for example, often have the main toolbar disabled to have more canvas estate… Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, loukash said: There is a thing why it shouldn't be a "regular" panel: The Apply/Cancel buttons. Regular Studio panels don't and shouldn't have these buttons. But it should be a regular floating window with these buttons, available from a menu. Good point. In Inkscape, there is no need for those buttons, so there shouldn't be there if they create a dedicated Panel: Best regards! Rudantu 1 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Mithferion said: shouldn't be there if they create a dedicated Panel But then every change would be immediately live which I don't consider a good idea in this special case. I, for one, actually prefer the Apply/Cancel solution which is more transparent than just doing an Undo upon a failed alignment attempt. R C-R 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, loukash said: But then every change would be immediately live which I don't consider a good idea in this special case. I, for one, actually prefer the Apply/Cancel solution which is more transparent than just doing an Undo upon a failed alignment attempt. Maybe there is something that I'm missing but when using the Alignment Panel, it does make the changes live and it leaves them there. Any chance you can upload a video showing how you use it? Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Mithferion said: it does make the changes live and it leaves them there Yep. Unless you press the Cancel button. Look, the current implementation is rather suboptimal, but at least it shows the user that whatever they try to accomplish, it's reversible with a single click on the Cancel button. This is a Good Thing™ because the Align options can have unexpected consequences. R C-R 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 13 minutes ago, loukash said: Yep. Unless you press the Cancel button. Ah, that's true. Didn't think of that. I'd think that an option called "restore" in the hypotetical Panel would suffice but I'm guessing you wouldn't be a fan of that. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Mithferion said: I'd think that an option called "restore" in the hypotetical Panel would suffice The thing here would be: How many panel modifications are an Undo step? Or where does "Restore" begin? Since modificiations in Studio panels are always live, step by step, every single change is then also an Undo step. But aligning objects often requires multiple steps, since you can only enable each option one by one. Hence the Apply/Cancel workflow is in fact a good solution. It's just the current UI which is… uh, mediocre. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, loukash said: The thing here would be: How many panel modifications are an Undo step? Or where does "Restore" begin? I'd think that it begins the moment when you have your selection and you make your first move. I know it's not perfect but other than what options do we have? I myself am not fan of floating windows. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Mithferion said: but other than what options do we have? I myself am not fan of floating windows. For most parts – although Serif isn't necessarily consequent here – are panels actually object inspectors: select an object(s) and a panel would display the editable attributes of the selection. That's not the case with aligning because there are no attributes to begin with. So conceptually, a panel is the wrong UI. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, loukash said: For most parts – although Serif isn't necessarily consequent here – are panels actually object inspectors: select an object(s) and a panel would display the editable attributes of the selection. In a way, it'd be similar to the Isometric Panel where you perform actions but I get your point that that's the case for the most part. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frozen Death Knight Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Fantastic feature. Though, one thing I am not a fan of is that the checkbox for maintaining aspect ratio is greyed out and unusable unless you click the coloured buttons. I just want to have the option to have this on by default when I open the panel without the extra clicking every time. Also, the panel could be designed like the Move Data Entry panel by being active while doing other changes. For instance, I tried alt+L clicking another object to make it a key object to change which object affected rotations, but that also applied the match rotation I did with this new feature at the same time. It would be nice if it only applied when I tell it to while making edits like it was done with Move Data Entry. Another thing that would be appreciated is having a regular floating panel version of Alignment. As of now you need to click the button at the top of the toolbar to use or open the Layer menu. Having a floating panel version and the ability to make a shortcut for it would be a solid quality of life change to go along with this improved feature set. CM0, Hangman, jmwellborn and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Frozen Death Knight said: one thing I am not a fan of is that the checkbox for maintaining aspect ratio is greyed out and unusable unless you click the coloured buttons. I just want to have the option to have this on by default when I open the panel without the extra clicking every time. This is another of those things that should be sticky, iow, it should stay as the user sets it until they decide to change it, rather than having to be set every time. R C-R, jmwellborn and Frozen Death Knight 3 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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