Staff Ash Posted April 12, 2024 Staff Posted April 12, 2024 Apps: Designer Platforms: macOS, Windows and iPad Affinity Designer now includes a new width tool which is available by default alongside the pencil tool in your toolbar: The Line Width Tool gives you an on-document way of editing the pressure profile of any curve. For example the curve below has 3 pressure points (5 including the start and end pressure). While in the Line Width tool the position of those points are shown along the curve, and you have the ability to drag to change the width and position of them. You can also click to add a new pressure point, or double click to remove any pressure point on a curve. There are various modifiers available which you can see in the status bar: Shift + Drag - allows you to modify the width at any point without adjusting it's position Cmd (Mac) / Ctrl (Win) + Click - manually enter the width required at the chosen point Ctrl (Mac) / Ctrl (Win) + Drag - move the point position without adjusting the width Double click - remove pressure point Additionally you will find some other options in the context toolbar when using this tool: Adjust Line Weight - if this is turned on then should you drag the width of any point to be greater than the current line width (i.e. greater than 100% pressure) the line width will be increased to allow you to drag the width unrestricted. If it is turned off then the maximum width you can drag to is 100% of the set line width. Allow point reordering - This option allows to you to specify whether you want to allow the tool to drag one point past another along the curve, effectively swapping their order, or not. Snap to curve nodes - This will show any nodes on the curve as small white dots and will snap any pressure points to those nodes Snap to widths on same curve - this will snap the width at any pressure point on a curve to other widths which already exist on that curve. This only applies when holding shift (i.e. you are adjusting the width without altering the point position). Snap to curve geometry - this will snap the width to the geometry of any selected curves (again if you are holding shift). M-rivers, Petar Petrenko, ATP and 44 others 26 19 2 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted April 12, 2024 Staff Posted April 12, 2024 Known Issues in this feature A list of unresolved issues for this feature, reported by users AF-2806 - Line Width Tool causes curve to clip when used on curve inside a Symbol acting as a mask on a group Released Fixes A list of issues for this feature, available in the current beta build AF-2769 - Clicking with the Line Width Tool inserts a 0% pressure point AF-2768 - Line Width Tool: using the Layer > Transform commands while the Line Width Tool is active leaves the pressure points misplaced (in their original position before transform) AF-2766 - Cannot use Line Width Tool in Designer Persona in Publisher Windows AF-2903 - Line Width Tool handles don't respond to Tool Handle Size changes AF-2807 - Set Line Width At Point dialog should say Width instead of Weight AF-2700 - [iPad] Line Width tool missing name in tool flyout AF-2726 - Line Width Tool rename to Stroke Width Tool AF-3004 - Stroke Width Tool will crash if you attempt to adjust the widht of an Start/End Node AF-2772 - Expand Stroke fails on curves that have a large 'step' in the Pressure Profile Upcoming Fixes A list of issues for this feature, which will be available in a forthcoming build frankstallone 1 Quote
dominik Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 For some reason I cannot get this tool to work. I do see the line width handles but I cannot grab and drag them. Apart from that, great addition! d. Quote Affinity Suite on Windows (V2) and iPad (V2). Beta testing when available. Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil
Frozen Death Knight Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I love this! Works great! Only thing that's related to this tool that I hope gets improved is this panel: It's too small. Being able to resize it and making the Profile feature more global so other features could reuse them, i.e. brush settings, would make it even better. It also needs an option to invert the curves. R C-R, Robert Hansford, Aammppaa and 14 others 17 Quote
dominik Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 11 minutes ago, dominik said: For some reason I cannot get this tool to work. I do see the line width handles but I cannot grab and drag them. Apart from that, great addition! OK, correction: for some reason I cannot get this tool to work in APub's Designer Persona. In AD it does work as described above. d. Sean P 1 Quote Affinity Suite on Windows (V2) and iPad (V2). Beta testing when available. Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil
anto Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Line Width Tool does not work in Publisher - Designer Persona 2024-04-19 13-56-46.mp4 MattP and Sean P 1 1 Quote
StuartRc Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Just had a quick preview!.. Wow! You have been busy!. This is a great addition and personally going to have a lot of fun with it.... a. One small thing related is that I noticed.. Adding the tool option for this (Combined) has a tooltip just for pencil and not the multiple option. I believe this applies to a number of the drag > toolbar multiple tool options.. To get the correct tool (with the growing number!) is trial and error now.. Could the tooltips be amended to reflect the combined tool options? b. Agree with @Frozen Death Knight that the panels should eventually be updated to reflect the improvements! c. Like the way the profile graph can be edited to reflect the line width Frozen Death Knight, MattP and Affinityconfusesme 3 Quote Affinity Version 1 (10.6) Affinity Version 2.6.0 All (Designer | Photo | Publisher) Beta; 2.6.0.3125 OS:Windows 10 Pro 22H2 OS Build 19045.5371+ Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19060.1000.0 Rig:AMD FX 8350 and AMD Radeon (R9 380 Series) Settings Version 21.04.01 Radeon Settings Version 2020 20.1.03) + Wacom Intuous 4M with driver 6.3.41-1
dominik Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 On 4/12/2024 at 2:53 PM, Ash said: You can also click to add a new pressure point, or double click to remove any pressure point on a curve. Clicking does add a new pressure point but with zero width! To me this looks like a bug. I would expect it adds a point but does not the line's width at that point. d. Sean P and GRAFKOM 1 1 Quote Affinity Suite on Windows (V2) and iPad (V2). Beta testing when available. Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil
Circulus Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, dominik said: OK, correction: for some reason I cannot get this tool to work in APub's Designer Persona. In AD it does work as described above. d. Works on windows. 2024-04-19 13-01-57.mp4 Sean P 1 Quote I think Serif wants us to be only creative in finding workarounds to use their tools. I have an affinity with Jumping through Hoops and over Humps. Dealing with Speedbumps and finding Work-A-Roundabouts. I'm getting dizzy from all that spinning and jumping.
anto Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Return said: Works on windows. On my windows 10 - no Quote
Staff Patrick Connor Posted April 19, 2024 Staff Posted April 19, 2024 On Windows you will likely need to reset your toolbars (part of CTRL+Run-up) to get the new Line Width tool anto 1 Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon
dominik Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Return said: Works on windows. @Return, thank you for confirming. I restarted APub and now it does work. Whatever the reason on my first take was. Looking forward to incorporate this tool into my workflow. d. Sean P 1 Quote Affinity Suite on Windows (V2) and iPad (V2). Beta testing when available. Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil
anto Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 When the Line Width Tool is selected and you rotate an object, you'll see an artefact. 2024-04-19 14-14-28.mp4 Sean P and MattP 1 1 Quote
Petar Petrenko Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said: On Windows you will likely need to reset your toolbars There is no such option. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100)
anto Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 Is it possible to make the "Set line Width At Point" window visible and display the width instead of being called by a control-click? Quote
Hangman Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I'm seeing artefacts when line widths applied using the Line Width tool are quite large... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Staff Sean P Posted April 19, 2024 Staff Posted April 19, 2024 47 minutes ago, dominik said: OK, correction: for some reason I cannot get this tool to work in APub's Designer Persona. In AD it does work as described above. d. 45 minutes ago, anto said: Line Width Tool does not work in Publisher - Designer Persona Thanks for letting us know I'll get this logged Quote
Staff MEB Posted April 19, 2024 Staff Posted April 19, 2024 54 minutes ago, anto said: When the Line Width Tool is selected and you rotate an object, you'll see an artefact. 2024-04-19 14-14-28.mp4 933.6 kB · 3 downloads Thanks @anto. I'm logging this to be looked at (AF-2768). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
anto Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 It is not clear when the Adjust Line Weight button is pressed and when it is not. When the button is not clicked (gray), I can change all the point values to a certain set value. If the button is pressed (black background), I can change the width of all points as I want. So when the button is pressed and when it is not? It seemed to me that when it is pressed (dark background), the entire width should be aligned to a certain value. Or am I misunderstanding something? Quote
Bryan Rieger Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 The contour from the line width tool isn't automatically carried over to additional strokes that have been applied to a line/curve, making it difficult to create an outline that matches the existing line contour. It is possible to select the another stroke and set line widths for it (which is very nice), but being able to apply the existing line width settings applied to additional strokes would also be helpful. Above: Current line widths are not applied to additional strokes. Above: An additional stroke with separate width settings applied to the same curve (very nice). Frozen Death Knight, ronnyb, M-rivers and 1 other 4 Quote
Staff Sean P Posted April 19, 2024 Staff Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, dominik said: Clicking does add a new pressure point but with zero width! To me this looks like a bug. I would expect it adds a point but does not the line's width at that point. d. Thanks - I've logged this to be looked at. Quote
Staff Ash Posted April 19, 2024 Author Staff Posted April 19, 2024 27 minutes ago, Bryan Rieger said: making it difficult to create an outline that matches the existing line contour You can right click on a stroke in the appearance panel and Duplicate - which will create a copy of the existing stroke including its pressure profile. Does that help? Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2
Staff Sean P Posted April 19, 2024 Staff Posted April 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Return said: Works on windows. 2024-04-19 13-01-57.mp4 2.76 MB · 3 downloads Thanks! Interestingly it looks like it could be upgrades from 2.4.2 that is causing the issue. If I ctrl run up I don't get a problem (like you're not), but if I do an upgrade from 2.4.2's User Data I get the issue. Quote
Bryan Rieger Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ash said: You can right click on a stroke in the appearance panel and Duplicate - which will create a copy of the existing stroke including its pressure profile. Does that help? Oh, that does help, but it's not overly intuitive as there's no indication in the appearance panel that the stroke has a width profile associated with it. Perhaps adding another attribute such as 'Profile' (see mockup below) could help to indicate that the stroke has additional width/profile data associated with it? Addendum: I added a few more thoughts on the overall stroke width 'Profile' UX in another post. Edited April 19, 2024 by Bryan Rieger Additional thoughts. M-rivers, MattP, loukash and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Circulus Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean P said: Thanks! Interestingly it looks like it could be upgrades from 2.4.2 that is causing the issue. If I ctrl run up I don't get a problem (like you're not), but if I do an upgrade from 2.4.2's User Data I get the issue. Usually I ctrl+runup and restart pc, in this instance I actually did not and it worked out of the box after adding it to the tools panel. Quote I think Serif wants us to be only creative in finding workarounds to use their tools. I have an affinity with Jumping through Hoops and over Humps. Dealing with Speedbumps and finding Work-A-Roundabouts. I'm getting dizzy from all that spinning and jumping.
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