A_B_C Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Ahh … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elles83 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 A good native footnotes/endnotes manager would be great and it would differentiate AP from other parties programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kahrel Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I'll add my vote for footnote and endnote support. > Hope you can implement it in a similar way like in InDesign, . . . Please, Affinity, whatever you do, don't look at InDesign's notes. Footnotes are at the document level in InDesign, they should be at the level of the story. That way each story can have its own numbering style and start number. It should also be possible (as it isn't in InDesign), to set the first footnote in a text as an uncued note. And users should be able to define their own sequence and appearance of note symbols (asterisk, pilcrow, dagger, double dagger, paragraph symbol, etc.). > Visit any university library and you'll find that endnotes replaced footnotes long ago, perhaps in the 1950s. Complete nonsense. Academic publishers prefer footnotes. > In the era before computers, endnotes were far easier to typeset. That's why notes were set as endnotes at some stage. Endnotes hung on for non-academic texts and in texts published by penny-pinching publishers, but nowadays footnotes are preferred by many. Footnotes are still more labour-intensive than endnotes, but the difference in effort is not nearly as big as it used to be. > In today's world, their appearance at the bottom of a page is seen as clutter by most readers. In my experience, readers just get annoyed by having to go to the end of the book (or worse, to the end of the chapter in multi-authored volumes). A_B_C, PaoloT, SirPL and 10 others 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 11:54 AM, Peter Kahrel said: In my experience, readers just get annoyed by having to go to the end of the book (or worse, to the end of the chapter in multi-authored volumes). Exactly. I don't want to scout for footnotes somewhere else in the book, particularly, where there are many of them. Obviously, with a very few notes in the document placing them at the back of the chapter or at the end the book is acceptable and oftentimes desirable. And I agree with Peter. We need greater flexibility than in indesign. jmwellborn, meyer.wil, T.O.R.A. and 2 others 5 Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 4:05 PM, Seneca said: I'm sure the dev team are already working on this. nboeker 1 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 +1 for footnotes and endnotes. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannick Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Without footnotes it's absolutely impossible for me to work with AP Yannixk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaran Gaarder Heggen Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 And by adding support for bibliography and Reference Tools like JabRef, Zotero and Medeley it will be even easier to make good references/endnotes/footnotes...That way we can actually drop Words or other word prosessors for writing and go stright to Publisher to do all our work for books and reports that need references and bibliographies...Would be great... Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaran Gaarder Heggen Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 12:54 PM, Peter Kahrel said: I'll add my vote for footnote and endnote support. > Hope you can implement it in a similar way like in InDesign, . . . Please, Affinity, whatever you do, don't look at InDesign's notes. Footnotes are at the document level in InDesign, they should be at the level of the story. That way each story can have its own numbering style and start number. It should also be possible (as it isn't in InDesign), to set the first footnote in a text as an uncued note. And users should be able to define their own sequence and appearance of note symbols (asterisk, pilcrow, dagger, double dagger, paragraph symbol, etc.). > Visit any university library and you'll find that endnotes replaced footnotes long ago, perhaps in the 1950s. Complete nonsense. Academic publishers prefer footnotes. > In the era before computers, endnotes were far easier to typeset. That's why notes were set as endnotes at some stage. Endnotes hung on for non-academic texts and in texts published by penny-pinching publishers, but nowadays footnotes are preferred by many. Footnotes are still more labour-intensive than endnotes, but the difference in effort is not nearly as big as it used to be. > In today's world, their appearance at the bottom of a page is seen as clutter by most readers. In my experience, readers just get annoyed by having to go to the end of the book (or worse, to the end of the chapter in multi-authored volumes). By adding support for bibliography and Reference Tools like JabRef, Zotero and Medeley we would get everything needed, and it the notes/bibliography would be formated correctly all the time, with minimal effort... That way we can actually drop Words or other word prosessors for writing and go stright to Publisher to do all our work for books and reports that need references and bibliographies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaran Gaarder Heggen Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 3:38 PM, Seneca said: Exactly. I don't want to scout for footnotes somewhere else in the book, particularly, where there are many of them. Obviously, with a very few notes in the document placing them at the back of the chapter or at the end the book is acceptable and oftentimes desirable. And I agree with Peter. We need greater flexibility than in indesign. We would get all the flexibility needed if they would support Bibliography and Reference Tools like JabRef, Zotero and Medeley?That way we can actually drop Words or other word prosessors for writing and go stright to Publisher to do all our work for books and reports that need references and bibliographies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum MacLeod (pangur) Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Please add me to the list of those wanting footnotes, endnotes, etc. I realise that margin notes can be mimicked easily once anchoring graphics to paragraphs is fixed. I use Spacemacs. LaTeX, and Auctex at present. Though a bit old fashioned it does footnotes with ease. So, I am guessing that Affinity Publisher will have them eventually anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hum3 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 3:40 PM, Mike Perry said: Add me to those voting for footnotes and endnotes, but with a strong stress on the later. Visit any university library and you'll find that endnotes replaced footnotes long ago, perhaps in the 1950s. In the era before computers, endnotes were far easier to typeset. In todays world, their appearance at the bottom of a page is seen as clutter by most readers. And being able to have both in the same document would be handy. Footnotes could be used at the bottom of a page to clarify ideas. Endnotes far away could be used to give references that most people don't read. I would, however, agree with those who'd like to see footnotes handled in a more powerful way. Untangling Tolkien, my day-by-day chronology of Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings was done in Framemaker, which allowed me create the equivalent of footnotes for references to the source in LOTR in a sidebar alongside the text to which it applies. That worked far better than bottom of the page footnotes or endnotes. I can't do that in ID. Seriously? Giving the information on the page is way more user-friendly than having to constantly refer to another page. Function over form on this one – we are relaying information here, not sweeping it out of sight to make the page less 'cluttered'. If your footnotes look rubbish, then it is probably the designer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hum3 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Definite want for footnote / endnote support here. Can't use AP until they are supported. It would be superb if you could support them from within tables – something that ID fails to do and makes my life miserable. A_B_C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Yes, please. Support for footnotes in tables would be wonderful! Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birn Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Footnotes, yes! If you want to get customers you need footnotes/endnotes and Hebrew/RTL support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joansz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Still no footnotes and end notes. They are a must have. Product useless without this, IMO. siafok and jmwellborn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 In case you missed this comment in another thread: cubesquareredux and jmwellborn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernie-f Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Footnotes/endnotes a must have feauter like daily bread. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliaskroell Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 also voting for footnotes and endnotes. in my opinion it is a absolute must have feature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy sheep Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 +1 for footnotes and endnotes. essentiell feature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhikkhu Pesala Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I agree that footnotes are essential for a professional DTP application Endnotes are not essential if there is an option, like in PagePlus, to place footnotes at the end of the story or at the bottom of a page, or column. Ideally, one would have both, but footnotes per story would be a good start. For publications with lots of short footnote references, columns for footnotes would be the icing on the cake. I wrote a tutorial on how to do this in PagePlus, but it is a workaround at best. A_B_C and Markio 2 Quote AMD A10-6800K, with Radeon HD Graphics 4100 GHz 8 Gb on Windows 10 64-bit build 17763.316 • My Free OpenType Fonts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickOfLondon Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yes please, I would like to add my vote for footnotes and endnotes facilities. Thank you for all your good work so far on Affinity Publisher Beta. cubesquareredux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 3:13 AM, Bhikkhu Pesala said: Endnotes are not essential if there is an option, like in PagePlus, to place footnotes at the end of the story or at the bottom of a page, or column. Ideally, one would have both, but footnotes per story would be a good start. Footnotes at the end of the story *are* endnotes. Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhikkhu Pesala Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, fde101 said: Footnotes at the end of the story *are* endnotes. Almost, but not quite. Endnotes are placed at the end of the story, while footnotes are placed at the bottom of the text frame. PagePlus has both. The option to place footnotes immediately after the end of the text before a page break, or at the end of the story has been a feature request for many years. Patrick Connor 1 Quote AMD A10-6800K, with Radeon HD Graphics 4100 GHz 8 Gb on Windows 10 64-bit build 17763.316 • My Free OpenType Fonts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Footnotes may not be essential for a general non-fiction work, where either no referencing is given or endnotes will suffice. However footnotes are essential in any serious academic work. The reader of which should not have to keep on jumping between pages and the end of a chapter to see the reference. I hope we will see this feature soon. myrrhine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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