AllanP Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Jim Slade said: That would be layout (largely justification) based upon the entire paragraph, rather than line-by-line. LaTex has done that forever. InDesign does it. But most don't. Justified Word documents look funky because it justifies by line by inserting space. Beyond better look, a benefit of paragraph composition is that relatively small paragraphs do not cause the paragraph length to change much. If you have a document with manual references (e.g. legal work with a table of authorities), fixing a few characters in a document does not cause much text shifting to pages that throws you references off. There is some control over Justification available via the Paragraph panel allowing some configuration on the Justified Left, Justified Centre, Justified Right, and Justified Right options. Are these of any help? Minimum Word Spacing—sets the minimum gap allowed. Desired Word Spacing—sets the preferred gap between words. Maximum Word Spacing—sets the maximum gap allowed. Minimum Letter Spacing—sets the minimum tracking allowed. Desired Letter Spacing—sets the preferred tracking (spacing between letters) within words when a paragraph has a justified alignment. Maximum Letter Spacing—sets the maximum tracking allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 8:24 AM, Ralph said: ... though I still can't help comparing Publisher with my car: My car has so many "features" that, after a year, I am still discovering the nuances of the parking sensor feature. It also has all four wheels. My previous car had few features, but it also had 4 wheels. I could use my old car, perhaps with a touch of envy for my neighbour - whose car had lots features, and 4 wheels. I wouldn't envy my neighbour even if his car could fly, if it had a wheel missing. Afffinity, to me, can orbit the Earth - but Publisher has a wheel missing,It is SO frustrating !!! Was the missing wheel footnotes/endnotes? Publisher 2 has them! Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, AllanP said: There is some control over Justification available via the Paragraph panel... But APub still uses line by line justification only. As does QXP et al. InDesign offers both types of justification and with those and more options to control justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Slade Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AllanP said: There is some control over Justification available via the Paragraph panel allowing some configuration on the Justified Left, Justified Centre, Justified Right, and Justified Right options. Are these of any help? Minimum Word Spacing—sets the minimum gap allowed. Desired Word Spacing—sets the preferred gap between words. Maximum Word Spacing—sets the maximum gap allowed. Minimum Letter Spacing—sets the minimum tracking allowed. Desired Letter Spacing—sets the preferred tracking (spacing between letters) within words when a paragraph has a justified alignment. Maximum Letter Spacing—sets the maximum tracking allowed I am talking about something different. That is, the system formats the entire paragraph (as you type), rather than each line individually. Publisher does not do this [yet?]. Most word formatting applications do not. I do not even believe QUARK does it. Indesign and LaTex do. A technical article in the subject: http://www.eprg.org/G53DOC/pdfs/knuth-plass-breaking.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amontillado Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The notes panel allows for customizing the setting for a particular footnote, and also has document-wide settings. I can't find a way to change the document-wide settings. Anybody know how to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amontillado Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Amontillado said: The notes panel allows for customizing the setting for a particular footnote, and also has document-wide settings. I can't find a way to change the document-wide settings. Anybody know how to do that? I may have figured this out - if you are focussed on a text frame, you can't set the document-wide options. If you are not focussed on a text frame, you can. I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Slade Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Trevor A said: Jim I am sure that Serif appreciated your investment, along with those of others (including me!). Trevor I have an ancient copy of Creative Suite. It's 32-bit so I can only use it my old macs. I would have upgraded but for Adobe's taxation model under which usesr pay Adobe so they don't have to upgrade the program. It looks like there is more improvement in Affinity in the latest release thank Abode has made to Creative Suite in 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrober Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I would be very grateful if someone could confirm that footnotes are not supported yet in IDML import by the recently published Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted December 9, 2022 Staff Share Posted December 9, 2022 I can confirm the recent Affinity V2 betas (2.0.3) are almost entirely fixes and improvements to the apps, unfortunately there are no new features implemented yet, including IDML footnote import, my apologies. Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrober Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Thank you very much for your answer. IDML footnotes import is essential for me. I hope it will be implemented as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Chance Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Could you export the IDML text into Word? APub does accept the import of Word footnotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrober Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It's true, but direct import from IDML lets me transfer the design already done in ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Chance Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 @Pedrober I did mean to just export the text - keep the IDML file to import the design into APub, but extract the text (if it's possible) to Word, and then import the text back into your APub design. It all really hinges on whether the text can be extracted with footnotes successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrober Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Thank you very much for your message. Good idea, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Wallace Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 That sounds like a lot of work to accomplish what Affinity Publisher should be able to do natively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amontillado Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 38 minutes ago, Will Wallace said: That sounds like a lot of work to accomplish what Affinity Publisher should be able to do natively. It's not that bad in Affinity 2. Footnotes are created where you want them to appear, with the style you want them to have. So far, I haven't been forced to use a layout I didn't like. My use for footnotes and endnotes is limited, so there are edges of the envelope I'm sure I haven't seen. Regarding the Macy's versus Gimbel's debate over importing footnotes from Adobe, I can see that would be nice. It also makes m want to ask if Adobe imports Affinity footnotes transparently. If not importing Adobe footnotes without fussing is a shortcoming of Affinity, seems like we should criticize Adobe if it doesn't transparently import Affinity footnotes. What the heck, let's criticize Adobe on general principles. 🙂 At least while we can. Affinity and evolution may have select Adobe for the fossil record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amontillado Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Actually, I just realized something. If a frame doesn't have a customized footnote position, you can set document wide or per-frame footnote positions while the frame is selected. It's only if the frame has a different footnote position from document wide that you have to move the focus off the frame to set document-wide footnote positioning. I can see the logic in that. If you have a frame with footnote positioning you like, changing the document-wide default shouldn't blow away the frame's options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWHM Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just received an email with the following tutorial which may be handy. No time to deal with it myself now, but if others have missed it... https://affinityspotlight.com/article/take-control-of-footnotes-sidenotes-and-endnotes-in-affinity-publisher-2/?utm_source=SpotlightEmail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=SpotlightNewsletter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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