Line (Stroke) Width Tool

[lepr]

2 hours ago, jackamus said:

how do I draw an ellipse, using the line width tool, to look like ellipse 'B'?

 

 

[jackamus]

3 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I wouldn't bother with the Line Width tool at all. I would select the ellipse with the desired pressure profile, save the profile and then apply it to the new ellipse. Or I would copy the ellipse with the desired profile and use the Edit > Paste Style to the newly drawn ellipse. Or I would temporarily use the Synchronize Defaults from Selection (the ellipse with the desired profile being the selection) to set my default to the desired profile and then draw a new ellipse.

What I have done in the past is to save the ellipse as an asset to use another time.

[jackamus]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I say it because that's what you're trying to do. 

If you want another ellipse that looks like B, then duplicate B (Cmd+J). It is you don't want it identical, but similar, use the Style Picker to copy B's appearance and paste onto your other ellipse. 

In other words, pick the right tool for what you're trying to do. As far as I know, the Line Width Tool is the wrong one for your purpose.

Walt you have confirmed what I was thinking and that the line width tool is not appropriate. However it might still have a use for incomplete or partial ellipses. I will check that one out.

[Sean P]

On 4/20/2024 at 3:26 PM, Frozen Death Knight said:

I also noticed that it isn't possible to break the start and end points from each other with the tool.

Old method:

Line Width Tool:

Also, the tool seems to make each curve curved and I don't see any way to make them straight lines between points?

I don't believe this is a bug - In your Line Width Tool image, you can see a Line Width Node has been inserted just below the red dot (not present on the first image), so whilst they are moving together, the fact there is a node really close, makes it appear as though you've broken the line in the pressure graph.

[Dazmondo77]

Had a play around and it's GREAT

Got it set with the same shortcut as pencil N (which is now a pleasure to use)so holding down N temporarily lets you alter line width so can now work really quickly and sort out line widths as I'm drawing ---- loving it

I'm getting the same artefact bugs on thicker line widths and the line width tool not working on additional pages but for first beta really impressed

[Sean P]

16 hours ago, Frozen Death Knight said:

Found a visual bug where the mask silhouette breaks when building vectors with the Width Tool when combined with Symbols.

Do you mind attaching a file with this in please? I'm struggling to reproduce this here!

Thank you!

[StuartRc]

This is going to be a brilliant tool!😀!!!!

I have a couple of questions:
Node Delete
a. I like the ability to delete a width node and reset the line at a particular point [CNTRL + ALT + Node Click] but it looks to be limited to single width nodes; are there any plans to apply a reset to multiple nodes? or add a full reset of the line to the context bar (just think that would be useful!) Otherwise, if you create complex shape lines using the tool (Not that I would normally) you could spend a lot of time tweaking and editing.
Edits
b. Also like the [CNTRL + Click] on width node to access 'Set Line width at point'. Very useful for precise positioning. This would also be useful to set a greater range or frequency. such as 'alternate' or 'all'
UI
c. On the popup the bar title says: 'Set Line WIDTH at point but the Field Label is Weight!
Pressure Graph
d. Attempting to edit the Pressure Graph associated with the line at the same time editing the line with the width tool is a bit frustrating as the pressure graph closes each time you click on the object line

[Frozen Death Knight]

2 hours ago, Sean P said:

Do you mind attaching a file with this in please? I'm struggling to reproduce this here!

Thank you!

Here you go!

Vector 2.5 Testing 2.afpub

[dominik]

24 minutes ago, StuartRc said:

Pressure Graph
d. Attempting to edit the Pressure Graph associated with the line at the same time editing the line with the width tool is a bit frustrating as the pressure graph closes each time you click on the object line

@StuartRc, great suggestions.

I support the last one. Have a way to keep the pressure graph open ... and to resize it!

d.

[Frozen Death Knight]

6 hours ago, Sean P said:

I don't believe this is a bug - In your Line Width Tool image, you can see a Line Width Node has been inserted just below the red dot (not present on the first image), so whilst they are moving together, the fact there is a node really close, makes it appear as though you've broken the line in the pressure graph.

I know. I am just saying that the functionality isn't there for breaking the start and end widths from each other like in the Profile panel. You can get practically the similar effect, sure, but the tool just doesn't handle it the same way as when doing it from the panel. Might be worth considering if you want to add it in to make them behave the same across the board.

[Frozen Death Knight]

By the way, I appreciate that it is easy to set the width to 0 with the tool when clicking on the line. Makes it easy to break a line when intersecting with others to create the illusion that it is cut when it is not. I hope that will remain with some sort of modifier if it of some reason is decided to be changed.

[lepr]

22 minutes ago, Frozen Death Knight said:

the functionality isn't there for breaking the start and end widths from each other like in the Profile panel.

 

Shift+drag the red point to separate the start and end widths. Remember to read the hints at the bottom of the window.

 

 

 

[Frozen Death Knight]

3 minutes ago, lepr said:

 

Shift+drag the red point to separate the start and end widths. Remember to read the hints at the bottom of the window.

 

 

 

Hey, that's neat! Thanks for telling me!

[lepr]

2 minutes ago, Frozen Death Knight said:

Hey, that's neat! Thanks for telling me!

👍

 

[Frozen Death Knight]

Another idea! It would be neat if it was possible to to basically have something equivalent to "Split curve after node" for the width points to get points with the same length between each point. Just a faster way of creating ton of width points that can be adjusted for a more pattern like behaviour. Just a thought!

[Frozen Death Knight]

I was thinking about this Set Line Width At Point pop-up window. I like that we can set the exact values with this, but it is a bit annoying having it pop up this way. My suggestion is to move the value to the top toolbar settings where you type in the value beforehand, which you then activate by pressing ctrl+L click like how it currently works.

 

Same functionality, but with the added benefit where you can quickly set multiple points to the same width by just clicking without getting stuck with that pop-up window. It would also allow users to set line width to 0 with a modifier instead of just clicking on the curve lines like now. More flexible and easier to use!

[Affinityconfusesme]

+1 for this

[_Th]

On 4/22/2024 at 11:28 AM, lepr said:

Remember to read the hints at the bottom of the window.

This is an important reminder. I'm definitely guilty of overlooking this information on occasion.

[MxHeppa]

Not show pencil tool option but after reseting toolbar and i found it one item in elements what i can add tool bar. Nice idea. And i also get similar artefacts what someone else getted and i use Windows 10 Pro here. and this panel what someone sayed not needed anymore is somecases more clear way edit it as well i feel.

[EricP]

Once the artifacts will be sorted out, this feature will be great. Some nice things can be obtained quickly by iteratively applying line width and Expand Stroke several times. I find the results more organic, less mechanical than contour tool due to varying line width, which can be interesting in some applications.

[Bit Disappointed]

I strongly recommend that the elements adjusted with the line width tool be enlarged, and especially that they are also affected by the tool handle size setting in preferences.

I don’t know what it is with Serif and microscopic elements in the interface, but things really need to go together here.

[CM0]

When using the line width tool on brushes it seems to break. It will only adjust the overall brush width. You can't adjust the profile points.

[Sean P]

13 hours ago, CM0 said:

When using the line width tool on brushes it seems to break. It will only adjust the overall brush width. You can't adjust the profile points.

It is likely that the brush you've applied to the line has the Size Variance set to 0%, so any changes to the pressure graph get ignored. You can either modify the brush itself to have a size variance, or if you would rather, do it on a line by line basis using the Properties button on the Stroke Panel with the object you want to modify selected.
 

[CM0]

1 minute ago, Sean P said:

It is likely that the brush you've applied to the line has the Size Variance set to 0%, so any changes to the pressure graph get ignored. You can either modify the brush itself to have a size variance, or if you would rather, do it on a line by line basis using the Properties button on the Stroke Panel with the object you want to modify selected.
 

Ok, that seems to be the problem; however, it is inconsistent and confusing. This is what the default brush settings look like.

No size variance, but it works. However with Brushes you must increase the size variance. Furthermore, once you use a brush and then go back to basic line, then variance no longer works. Then you can no longer set variance for basic line. When you open the dialog, it opens for the last brush instead of the line settings.

[anto]

Line Width Tool does not work with Decorations in Publisher