manroe Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi, launching AD takes more time than Illustrator need. Could this be enhanced ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted November 1, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hey manroe,I've just been doing some tests, these are my results from a cold start: - AD on Windows takes 9 seconds - AD on Mac takes 2-3 seconds - Illustrator on Windows takes 11 seconds - Illustrator on the Mac takes 8 secondsSo my end we are a bit quicker than Illustrator. I've read that quite a few people are experiencing slow load times for Windows Designer. Some in the region of 20-30 seconds when using lower end hardware. What kind of results are you seeing? What spec is your machine? I might add I have it installed on an SSD. Mark Ingram 1 How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroe Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I work with the latest WIN 10 on a laptop with SSD and I7, its an ASUS Taichi. Illustrator takes 5 seconds, AD 7seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroe Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Now fresh restartet Illustrator 3 seconds and AD 7 seconds again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroe Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Completely fresh startet the laptop launching AD 12 seconds and Illustrator 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 1, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 1, 2016 Could this be enhanced ? Perhaps, but in comparison to others who are reporting times of up to a minute, 12 seconds is not so long. If we can improve matters for them yours may reduce. Personally I don't think that start-up time is the best way to judge software that's so good you don't want to stop using it ;) anon1 1 Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroe Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 ... I never would stop, using AD :-) Mark Ingram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've just done some analysis on our startup time, and I can see some areas which could be improved. I might not have time to fix them before release, but I will do it at some point. In theory it should make it over twice as fast to start up... MattP, Patrick Connor, seabirdr and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhikkhu Pesala Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 About 30 seconds for a cold start here (build 28) on my system, and about 12 seconds for a warm restart. Loading one small file from last session. Specs AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 7 64-bit AMD A10-6800K, with Radeon HD Graphics 4100 GHz 8 Gb on Windows 10 64-bit build 17763.316 • My Free OpenType Fonts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've just done some analysis on our startup time, and I can see some areas which could be improved. I might not have time to fix them before release, but I will do it at some point. In theory it should make it over twice as fast to start up... Excellent, Mark. Thank you. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marf Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 There is something strange. On my machine (Dell m3800 with System SSD and additional EVO 850 SSD, Win 10) it takes 58secs(!) to start. I also was the one with the slow persona panel update which is fixed now and works as smooth as the rest of the application. But the general loading time of the app is much too slow... I install all the programms on the second ssd. Can this be an issue? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted November 22, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 22, 2016 Hey Marf, as Mark said he will be looking into reducing the startup time. 58 seconds is certainly excessive, especially on an SSD. I did some tests at home and at work and I found that on average, the app opens in 8 seconds on an SSD and a standard HDD took me around 14 seconds. Does it take 58 seconds every single time or just from the first load after a fresh boot? How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnettgs Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 For me, it takes around 25 seconds (cold-start) on i5-6500 system with 16 GB RAM & 500 GB HDD, Windows 10 Pro. Could it have to do with using a different or older version of Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'm getting the following startup times on my i3 with SSD and 10GB RAM: AD cold - 28s AD warm - 24s Ai CS4 cold - 14s Ai CS4 warm - 10s I'd definitely appreciate the fixes Mark mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willabong Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Ordinary 1 terr hard drive, AMD Athlon 6 core 3500 mhz, 32 gig ram. 20 sec cold start. 10 sec warm start. I don't worry about trivialities that involve seconds, the program starts up fast enough for me, all I care about is usability, and AD has nailed that! Chris B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marf Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hey, interesting news. I used the "Process Monitor" from Sysinternals to see what Affinity is doing while starting on my ssd. And the most time it reads repeatingly a custom display calibration file in "C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\drivers\color" called "CalibratedDisplayProfile-4.icc". It is a custom created profile with the windows system color calibration for my laptop lcd... I just deleted this (and the other never used custom profiles) manually. And, belive it or not: Affinity starts in 10 secs, hurray Than I calibrated the display again what results in a new calibration file. But now it doesn't affect the loading time. Perhaps it's a hint for the developers to handle this potential issue... Thanks Andy Somerfield and barnettgs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnettgs Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 And, belive it or not: Affinity starts in 10 secs, hurray That was a good find. After reading your post, I decided to take a look at the Colour Management via Advanced Display Settings on Windows 10 and under Devices tab, I ticked 'Use my settings for this device' box and afterward, Affinity started in just 10 seconds. Alfred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted November 23, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 23, 2016 @Marf, that's interesting. I did the same thing on my home PC and noticed an improvement too. I'll look into it some more when I'm back in the office. Thanks :) How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 That was a good find. After reading your post, I decided to take a look at the Colour Management via Advanced Display Settings on Windows 10 and under Devices tab, I ticked 'Use my settings for this device' box and afterward, Affinity started in just 10 seconds. Thanks for the tip. It wasn't quite as little as ten seconds here, but it was very much faster than it had been. Chris B 1 Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelplucker Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I believe it might be due to the number of fonts you have in your system. AD and most programs use the systems font folder and not sure if Adobe fixed their software but Illustrator used to have it's own fonts folder. Using the systems font folder is the best option so a cold start of the program would be longer, this is true with any of the applications I use that use standard system setup and sequential starts should be much faster since that would be cached already. The Techies at Serif maybe able to yay or nay that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I believe it might be due to the number of fonts you have in your system. I only have a few hundred fonts installed here, so it seems unlikely that their presence would cause such long delays. In any case, I can't imagine one's colour management settings affecting the time taken to populate the font cache. Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I have no idea why the above procedure works, but it does. My start time is down to 15 seconds on a cold start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verysame Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 System specs: Operating System Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Xeon E5 v2 @ 2.10GHz 34 °C Ivy Bridge-EP/EX 22nm Technology Intel Xeon E5 v2 @ 2.10GHz 35 °C Ivy Bridge-EP/EX 22nm Technology RAM 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28) Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z9PA-D8 Series (Socket-R 2011) 42 °C Graphics ASUS PB238 (1920x1080@60Hz) 3071MB NVIDIA Quadro K4000 (NVIDIA) 38 °C ASPEED Technology Standard VGA Graphics Adapter (ASUStek Computer Inc) ForceWare version: 369.26 SLI Disabled Storage 232GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB ATA Device (SSD) 34 °C 2794GB Hitachi HGST HDN724030ALE640 ATA Device (SATA) 34 °C Results: Photo (1.5.0.38) C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Photo Public Beta\Photo.exe - 3 executions 19.5603 19.3784 19.4199 C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Designer\Designer.exe - 3 executions 21.3373 21.2844 21.2656 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\Photoshop.exe - 3 executions 0.3897 0.0995 0.0931 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\Photoshop.exe - 3 executions 0.0942 0.0932 0.0617 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Illustrator CS6 (64 Bit)\Support Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe - 2 executions 0.1088 0.0147 Photo (1.5.0.39) C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Photo Public Beta\Photo.exe - 3 executions 20.1537 20.0158 19.8554 Affinity programs run way slower than Adobe. That said, I personally don't mind particularly about start-up time. Should I choose, I'd definitely improve the overall performance (which I know is already planned), as that affects my actual work more than start-up. Andrew - Win10 x64 AMD Threadripper 1950x, 64GB, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + 2TB, dual GTX 1080ti Dual Monitor Dell Ultra HD 4k P2715Q 27-Inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Takes a minute to load on my gf's laptop. This is a problem and I hope it gets fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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