Affinity V2.0

[Bad_Wolf]

@Patrick Connor,

Great to hear that V2 is coming. Whenever it will be, I will update for sure. Looking forward to the release date of V2!

Thank you Serif team for your efforts and work to bring us the best Affinity ever! Keep up the good work.

Chris

 

[913]

I don't think  ، shape builder is much necessary , but one thing which I think is necessary is making export industry standards. 

What it means :

It means that Make the affinity designer export files , such as EPS(main file ) capable of holding groups , layers , text    , and Specific color profile ( cmyk , rgb )

So the graphic designers may work in the industry by providing the powerful files to their clients , And clients may not face any problem opening these file in other vector software , 

When affinity make this possible for designer  , then every graphic designer will move forward toward affinity softwares ,

I am not talking g about the svg , pdf , ai files , I am talking about the EPS file. , Which is nowadays Industry standard software all our the world . Every one demanding EPS .Every stock website demanding EPS ,. So 

I think , making EPS industry stands should be first and main goal of affinity team ,. 

 

 

 

[cookepuss]

I think that if we're to consider licensing and cost issue, Pilgway's 3DCoat is probably a good model to use going forward. They're different sorts of apps, but it certainly fits that proposed DLC/maintenance model proposed a page or two back.

In the past, Pilgway would do what Serif does and give countless updates to 3DCoat until the next major version came out. That wasn't sustainable since there would be a number of years separating full point releases. Pilgway was probably doling out 50+ updates in that time. It surely had to be hurting their bottom line.

Currently, Pilgway offers several different licensing models: Subscription, Rent to Own, Annual, & Permanent. For the sake of this thread, I'll go with the permanent.

Right now, the buy in for a full permanent license is around $379, which is a lot but it is a different sort of app as I said.

Instead of being issued a serial number, you're given two ways to activate. The first is the ability to log in to an activation server. The second, and most desirable, is a separate license file that enables you to self-activate and work offline; The only time it might connect, if that's what you want, would be to check for updates.

The license file contains some basic information: your name, your license type, your encoded license data, and your maintenance term. That part is key. When you buy a fresh permanent license, you're granted 12 months of "free" updates.

When those 12 months are over, 3DCoat will continue to function, but you won't be eligible for new updates. To renew your maintenance, you don't pay the full $379 again. No. Instead, you pay an additional $45 if you're within 24 months of your maintenance end date to gain and additional 12 months of updates (and a fresh license file to reflect your new maintenance cutoff date.)

If you're beyond 24 months of your maintenance ending, that number increases to $90 and gets capped there. If you do pay for 12 months more maintenance at that point, the clock starts again and your next maintenance renewal cost will only be $45.

In all cases, the app will be yours to keep and use forever. You'll only be frozen at the last version available within your most recent maintence window.

I would say, increase the base price of Affinity's apps to $75. It's still a steal at that price and still lower than the $99 (inferior) Photoshop Elements. Increase that base price to $75, offer 12 months of maintenance as part of the cost, and sell an additional 12 months at $25. $40-$50 if you're 24+ months outside your 12 months past your maintenance window.

Still cheap. Still quite a steal. For those of you/us who use Affinity's apps daily, asking $25 for every 12 months of support is perfectly reasonable. So is $40-$50 for somebody who is only likley to "renew" every 24+ months.

This method isn't too hard for end users to understand, as long as it's outlined clearly in writing. It also allows Serif to (hopefully) improve their revenue stream over the old/current tactic of offering free updates until the next full point release.

I would TOTALLY be down for that price increase for new users and $25 12 month maintenance. And if you think about it, that means that Serif would be getting $75 from us over those 3 years instead of asking for it 3 years from now. Spreading out the cost surely prevents money droughts for them during that 3 year period and allows cash strapped users to spread that $75 out. For some end users, there's a huge difference between $75 and $25.

Just an idea, adding to that post from a few pages back.

Either way, as long as Serif keeps on offering perpetual licenses, I will HAPPILY keep on paying them. The alternative is buying into the Adobe subscription ecosystem, where nothing is guaranteed other than them taking your money, or going with their super stripped down Elements apps, which require plugins and script packs to fix the mess that Adobe has made. (OSS like Gimp, Krita, and Inkscape are good in a pinch, but nowhere near the same level of what Serif offers.)

Edited September 21, 2022 by cookepuss

[913]

15 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:

We are not commenting on specific features, but suffice to say this is one of those right up there in terms of features we wish to add over those in V1

Can you describe some major new features or tools in ad designer v2 ,

 

[tudor]

3 hours ago, 913 said:

It means that Make the affinity designer export files , such as EPS(main file ) capable of holding groups , layers , text    , and Specific color profile ( cmyk , rgb )

The EPS file format does not support any of the features you mentioned. If you were thinking of Illustrator EPS files, those are actually AI files with an EPS file extension. That's what you download from the stock image websites.

 

[913]

6 hours ago, tudor said:

If you were thinking of Illustrator EPS files, those are actually AI files with an EPS file extension

Whenever I questioned About EPS  , Everywhere I received this answer , 

But as you know and I know if this EPS is not resolved in future then affinity designer will never become a industry standard software . 

With the power of Coding , I think this can be done ,. But needs research , hardworking and cleverness .

[PaulEC]

Wouldn't you know it! –  As soon as someone from Serif says, "We are not commenting on specific features", people start asking Serif to comment on specific features! 😁

[Twolane]

Personally, I cant wait until v2 comes out for the fuss over v3's imminent release that no one from Serif will confirm or deny. 😁

In the meantime, thanks for v1 and all the work I've done with it.

Edited September 21, 2022 by Twolane

[Mithferion]

7 hours ago, 913 said:

With the power of Coding , I think this can be done ,. But needs research , hardworking and cleverness .

Or some sites allowing for AFDESIGN files as well as other formats...

Best regards!

[N.P.M.]

5 minutes ago, Mithferion said:

Or some sites allowing for AFDESIGN files as well as other formats...

Best regards!

Even some printingshops here in NL are pointing out to affinity as an alternative, now those big resource sites should be convinced to take af~files into consideration.
So praise it to the creative flock and spread the word of the Affinity.

[Mithferion]

Just now, N.P.M. said:

Even some printingshops here in NL are pointing out to affinity as an alternative, now those big resource sites should be convinced to take af~files into consideration.
So praise it to the creative flock and spread the word of the Affinity.

As a quick example, DesignCuts has a dedicated section for the Affinity-related Products (most of them are brushes that lso work woith Procreate and Photoshop).

So, it's not a one-sided task.

Best regards!

[Mithferion]

Oh, look, Creative Market also allows for multiple files, like this person:

Files Included: Docx,Doc,IDML,INDD,INDT,PSD,EPS,AI,PDF,PPT,PPTX,afpub,afphoto,afdesign,Google Slides,Google Docs,

Best regards!

[N.P.M.]

I know there are af~files on several of those markets.
I just meant to say that it should be as common as eps/ai/psd/pdf
 

[Mithferion]

5 minutes ago, N.P.M. said:

I know there are af~files on several of those markets.
I just meant to say that it should be as common as eps/ai/psd/pdf
 

I wanted to share these examples for those who might have not seen them.  

And I think it's a matter time to see this as a common thing.

Best reagrds!

[debraspicher]

24 minutes ago, N.P.M. said:

I know there are af~files on several of those markets.
I just meant to say that it should be as common as eps/ai/psd/pdf
 

What impacts adoption rate most is obviously the size of user base (so potential market), but also the ready availability of tutorials, USEFUL tools and obviously quality digital assets being available free and/or paid. So make more of those things...

[N.P.M.]

26 minutes ago, debraspicher said:

What impacts adoption rate most is obviously the size of user base (so potential market), but also the ready availability of tutorials, USEFUL tools and obviously quality digital assets being available free and/or paid. So make more of those things...

Exactly and I hope with v2 features and workflow improvements we can make it even more mainstream.😊

[913]

5 hours ago, Mithferion said:

Oh, look, Creative Market also allows for multiple files, like this person:

Files Included: Docx,Doc,IDML,INDD,INDT,PSD,EPS,AI,PDF,PPT,PPTX,afpub,afphoto,afdesign,

I know this !

When I submit my logo design , but my design was rejected , when I ask reason  , they said only .afdesign  is not accepted , you need to provide EPS file with afdesign files .

That is what I want to say , EPS is main files today in the industry of graphic designing , so we should work on it ,

 

913 

[913]

Is any affinity moderator here to let us know about the major new updates of designer v2 , or affinity is still working on 1. Series🥲

[walt.farrell]

2 minutes ago, 913 said:

Is any affinity moderator here to let us know about the major new updates of designer v2 , or affinity is still working on 1. Series🥲

Serif is not yet disclosing the contents of V2, though they have hinted that it's coming. When it's ready to be announced they will tell us what it contains.

[PaulEC]

3 minutes ago, 913 said:

Is any affinity moderator here to let us know about the major new updates of designer v2 , or affinity is still working on 1. Series🥲

See Patrick Connor's comment earlier in this thread!

[dsnaps12]

Well Serif says V2 by the end of the year so they could announce anytime between tomorrow and the next 3months. 

[Mithferion]

On 9/21/2022 at 8:15 PM, 913 said:

I know this !

When I submit my logo design , but my design was rejected , when I ask reason  , they said only .afdesign  is not accepted , you need to provide EPS file with afdesign files .

That is what I want to say , EPS is main files today in the industry of graphic designing , so we should work on it ,

 

913 

Did they tell why was your EPS file being rejected? If your Logos are good old vectors with flat colors, something that you could try is the following:

• Export your file as a PDF
• Change the file extension to EPS

Illustrator might struggle a bit but it will open the file (with editable text included, if you offer your design as a Logo template, for example).

It might do the trick for you so that they accept your work.

Best regards!

[913]

13 minutes ago, Mithferion said:

Did they tell why was your EPS file being rejected? If your Logos are good old vectors with flat colors, something that you could try is the following:

• Export your file as a PDF
• Change the file extension to EPS

Illustrator might struggle a bit but it will open the file (with editable text included, if you offer your design as a Logo template, for example).

It might do the trick for you so that they accept your work.

Best regards!

That's a good trick , let me check it , 

I think this also works for Ai file.

[Mithferion]

Also, for those who are interested in using a Shape Builder Tool, today I've found this free web App which includes it.

The App is not that intuitive and the Shape Builder Tool has its own way of working, but it might be useful for some.

Here is the YouTube channel to see some tutorials.

Best regards!

 

[Mithferion]

14 minutes ago, Mithferion said:

I've found this free web App which includes it.

It also has some image tracing functionality, which people seem to love (it's a one click thing).

Best regards!