Roberto.Bargagna Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Drop cap: it would be very useful to be able to specify the number of characters that must form the drop cap. Wosven and NightSky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Tyson Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Also, the use of strong, emphasis, these are web words - better to have Bold, Italics etc. better for typographical references especially for print docs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Roberto.Bargagna said: Drop cap: it would be very useful to be able to specify the number of characters that must form the drop cap. Do you want this to deal with leading quotes and punctuation? If so, we cope with that automatically. Wosven and Roberto.Bargagna 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, Hank_Scorpio said: Also, the use of strong, emphasis, these are web words - better to have Bold, Italics etc. better for typographical references especially for print docs. The point of character styles is that they can change. For example, you might want to emphasise with colour instead of italics. Alfred and Aammppaa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Tyson Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dave Harris said: The point of character styles is that they can change. For example, you might want to emphasise with colour instead of italics. Ah right - didn't realise these were related to text styles! Suggest the text styles be named Italics, Bold, Bold Italic - instead. They are very web defined names. Cool text styles loaded by default - didn't notice. Can these be removed before starting a new doc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 You can use Text > Text Styles > Detach and Delete All Styles to remove them from the current document, and then Save Text Styles as Default to set the current style sheet as default for new documents. Eugene Tyson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Paragraph style doesn't seem to apply the character style (color, size, etc.) for drop caps (font size, color…). And I think the default drop caps size is too short, it needs to begin at same level as "l" or highter character of the font. Fixx and garrettm30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Please, please, pretty please: we really need to be able to specify the number of characters that has to be used as drop caps. qwz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I agree. I do like the idea of the automatic implementation as currently in place, but sometimes we need to be able to explicitly input the number of characters, as auto can’t always know what we want to achieve. In another thread, I have given a couple examples from my work where this would be needed: Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 It would be nice too, to have possibility to omit the first character if it is an interpunction symbol. fde101 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 10:45 PM, NightSky said: Please, please, pretty please: we really need to be able to specify the number of characters that has to be used as drop caps. This will be in 1.8, and the next beta. Petar, can you give an example? If a line begins "The, I think it would look weird if the opening quote was not the same size as the T. Petar Petrenko, fde101 and NightSky 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dave Harris said: This will be in 1.8, and the next beta. Excellent, and thank you for letting us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 9/1/2018 at 10:15 AM, Wosven said: And I think the default drop caps size is too short, it needs to begin at same level as "l" or highter character of the font That depends on font design but I agree drop cap should not line with x-height but cap height. There is a wonderful tick in drop cap style "Align left edge" so there should be "Align to cap height" too. Patrick Connor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Dave Harris said: This will be in 1.8, and the next beta. Petar, can you give an example? If a line begins "The, I think it would look weird if the opening quote was not the same size as the T. Opening quote wouldn't be so noticable in such a case. And together with a hanging interpunction (in the future) marks it could be really great. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Dave Harris said: This will be in 1.8, and the next beta. You just made my day ;) Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzj Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Drop Capitals like they do in Indesign Please. Create fancy designs around the Drop Capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Fitzj, I believe you can do that in Publisher already. Have you tried? If you make the graphic pinned inline, it should behave like a character in virtually every way, including for drop caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 10:41 PM, fitzj said: Drop Capitals like they do in Indesign Please. Create fancy designs around the Drop Capital. This is not a Drop cap. It is inline graphic. It would be nice if the text wraps at the right side of the curved Drop cap. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Petar Petrenko said: This is not a Drop cap. It is inline graphic. It would be nice if the text wraps at the right side of the curved Drop cap. In InDesign is it both an inline graphic and a drop cap. I just tried in in Publisher, and it didn't work as well as I expected. The image gets sized and positioned correctly, but the next character gets drop-capped as well. You can avoid this in the 1.8 beta by setting the character count to 1. I'll tweak it so that using the auto character count only affects the image. Either way, I think the feature is better than in InDesign because the image scales automatically. This means you can change the number of lines dropped in a text style, and it will update the images in all the paragraphs that use the style. You can achieve a similar result by using a floating graphic that wraps to largest side, but that's not as texty. I've attached a document that shows both techniques. PinDropCap.afpub Petar Petrenko, Wosven and Seneca 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Dave Harris said: You can achieve a similar result by using a floating graphic that wraps to largest side, but that's not as texty. Thanks Dave, Unfortunately all this only works if you create a text frame on the ordinary page. If you want to attach anything to the text frame created on master pages Publisher crashes immediately (the latest beta). Click on float with text then unklick it and publisher will crash immediately. This will also happen if you click on Inline in Text. This has been a long standing problem for Publisher. I mean text frames created in master pages and how they interact with objects created on ordinary pages. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 7:25 PM, Seneca said: Thanks Dave, Unfortunately all this only works if you create a text frame on the ordinary page. If you want to attach anything to the text frame created on master pages Publisher crashes immediately (the latest beta). Click on float with text then unklick it and publisher will crash immediately. This will also happen if you click on Inline in Text. This has been a long standing problem for Publisher. I mean text frames created in master pages and how they interact with objects created on ordinary pages. 1.7.3 has a lot of problems in that area. 1.8.0.518 should be a lot better. I just tried with a new blank document and it seemed OK. Do you have a more detailed recipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dave Harris said: Do you have a more detailed recipe? Hello Dave, Here is a short video demonstrating the problem. You can't attach anything to the text frames coming from master pages whether it is a graphic element or another text box. This is on the latest Publisher beta. textbox.mov Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 39 minutes ago, Seneca said: Here is a short video demonstrating the problem. I don't see that behaviour at all. No trouble with using images or shapes here. I didn't have any trouble with pinned images as drop caps or as just images. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I don't see that behaviour at all. Thanks @Old Bruce, maybe I should reset my Publisher installation to see whether that will make any difference. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Well, I did reset all Publisher options and still no luck. I hope it's not only me that has this problem. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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