imagodespira Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 First: Thanks for the new version and congrats on the release. It is not a bug, more an important missing feature: Windows 11 Rounded windows. I think also a design suite should care about UI guidelines. And with V2 i wanted to see rounded Windows 11 corners AND drop shadows of the main windows, it is possible on MacOS too. It is not a gimmik or a joke, it is to separate multiple windows while working. When i work in other graphic software it is nearly impossible to separate and find the Affinity Window. Attached a sample which shows Affinity Photo above Blender. Round Corners is "just" a OS design feature but window shadows and in Windows 11 the light line around the window are important thinks and i would assume that a software which is meant to design UI and other stuff is using this rules. Regards and thanks for a day one patch ... For now, i have to test new stuff... François R, artmischke and Rich313 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's not a bug, The programmes also work excellently with the pointed corners. PaulEC 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.2715) Affinity Suite V 2.2.1 & Beta 2.3.0.2096 Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Need a system wide color picker? Try Microsoft's (New) Power Toys If you see a light at the end of the tunnel, it may be an oncoming train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagodespira Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 When i don´t can separate the app with other windows, it is a bug Either way, i did not find a better forum for this. François R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Lee_T Posted November 9, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 9, 2022 Hi imagodespira, Thanks for the suggestion, it's worth noting that Blender has some excellent UI customisation and the particular shade of grey we both seem to like can be altered a little if you wish to separate them visually. Lee François R and GlacierFox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagodespira Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, LeeThorpe said: Hi imagodespira, Thanks for the suggestion, it's worth noting that Blender has some excellent UI customisation and the particular shade of grey we both seem to like can be altered a little if you wish to separate them visually. Lee Thanks for your reply... beside Blender, here a Screenshot of all Software of your suite, sorry but it is not good and if you look at macos, it works well there (also the inapp Windows looks more separated if i see your first Affinity 2 videos at youtube. On Windows it is flat and not good separated). François R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, imagodespira said: Windows 11 Rounded windows It is not only about the visual appearance (rounded corners) defined by the respective OS, which all standard applications should respect, but also about other functions that the given OS brings for manipulating windows/applications. For example, the distribution of windows on the desktop. The fact that the application does not respect the features of the OS is its big "bug" (albeit at the design level). artmischke and imagodespira 2 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.2.1.2075 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.2506. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.2506. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitegr Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 You can use Mica for everyone https://github.com/MicaForEveryone/MicaForEveryone Just add Photo, Designer, Publisher rules and choose Corner Mode > Rounded You can see that it works for modal windows and has native shadows too. The only gripe is the splash screen seems to have some kind of translucent border applied to it, but it's worth it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagodespira Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 bitegr: Thanks! It is great and now i can separate the window between other dark mode apps. @Serif: Please try it and you will see that your decision to make no round corners where wrong! It is no problem to make it, so please do it!!!!! For me, it is a game changer! artmischke, Westerwälder and François R 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Turtle Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, imagodespira said: @Serif: Please try it and you will see that your decision to make no round corners where wrong! It is no problem to make it, so please do it!!!!! For me, it is a game changer! How does rounded corners affect the app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagodespira Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 First, it is a cosmetic kind. It seems that it is not important for developers of a software which is aimed to professional designers (if you look at the affinity promotion). People who are creative the whole day and makes graphics in any style pays attantion of visual styles. And if it fits seamless in windows 11, it is very useful. But second is maybe more important: It separates better from other windows. Look into my images above. It is often hard to see the activated window or the content. Is it Photo or is it designer? Round corners and shadow are not only cosmetic choices. They are helping to separate content from each other. Some people does not understand it.. maybe they are not creators, more coders or what else. In the public version of affinity it is sometimes also hard to see the windows within the app, especially it one makes UI Designs, maybe in a gray color... Now it is much better, because the round corner and the shadow helps. The round corner around windows 11 have a slightly lighter line to separate it better. On top the drop shadow. It is the same in Macos (here a better visuall line around, they have a second more darker line... again, it is not only because it is nice!!!). With the tool, it works better. The app itself but also within the app the tool windows. A problem is left: The drop shadow seems to be only the "disabled window" one, a much lighter version than in other apps. The Affinity Apps itself have no shadow, so it is maybe not better to make for this "hack" tool. But better than nothing. It could be better if Serif would use the Windows 11 Design guidlines instead of this Hack It is strange, a third party mini tool can do it and the coders of a professional Design Software not. I know it was a decision and not a bug. But it was not the right one! For my workflow it is much better now. But it could be better if the Apps would have its own round corners and drop shadows (the shadows could be more visible, not possible with the "hack"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNKLN Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 As a Mac user I'm not affected by this 'bug' but I support every Windows user's request for Affinity products to respect the characteristics of the OS (as much as possible. 100% will be difficult). imagodespira, François R, Pšenda and 1 other 3 1 Quote Affinity Photo - Affinity Designer - Affinity Publisher | macOS 12 Ventura (13.0) on 16GB MBP14 2021 with 2.0 versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, imagodespira said: It could be better if Serif would use the Windows 11 Design guidlines At least for me, it is completely incomprehensible that Serif boasts of winning the title of "Windows Developer Awards", while its products (including the award-winning application) do not meet the basic rules for applications running on Windows. Whether it is the consistent use of hints/tooltips (in version V2 it is again significantly worse), or the discussed appearance of windows (the very basic meaning of the OS, where all applications should look the same) and new functions for the distribution of application windows on the desktop. Brian_J and imagodespira 2 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.2.1.2075 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.2506. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.2506. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagodespira Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 Thanks @all who understand my little fight @Serif: it does not mean that i don´t enjoy to use your products. But i think it is, beside the also big list of bugs, worth to discuss. François R and Brian_J 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_J Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I agree... I think apps should accommodate the UI design principles of the OS they run on. Windows 11 automatically applies rounded corners to top-level app windows, so maybe the Affinity apps were designed in a way that prevents rounded corners from being applied. I'm not aware of the complexities involved, but it would be nice if Serif could address this at some point. From Microsoft documentation: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/desktop/modernize/apply-rounded-corners Quote Rounded corners are the most immediately noticeable feature of Windows 11 Geometry. On Windows 11, the system automatically rounds top-level window corners for all inbox apps, including all UWP apps, and most other apps. imagodespira and François R 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François R Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Yet another post of well-argued feedback to Serif from a paying and professionally serious customer met and mired in opposition and nonsense from a small group of fanboys offering unfactual opposition in this and many, many other threads. I also noted the departure from the Windows 11 design guide with genuine annoyance, @imagodespira, and I was puzzled that Serif Software missed the chance to discover that they've done it wrong (In fact, their answer is tragicomic and unprofessional), but I'm fortunate enough that I rarely switch programs once I'm up and running with the program maximized and being creative. And by the way, I'm retiring Windows soon in my workflow, so I miss the hassle of these design choices (MSIX too) that weren't good enough. In short: You are totally right @imagodespira and thank you @Brian_J for the above link to actual facts! imagodespira 1 Quote 1) You have completely wrecked the layers panel, Serif. 2) I recommend Reddit groups instead of this forum. Not the same few bot-like users replying to everything, a wider representation of users, fewer fanboys, more qualified users. In short, better! 3) I was here to report bugs and submit improvement requests for professional work professionally in a large setup and to bring a lot of knowledge from the world, i.e. professional product development, web- and software development, usability, user experience design and accessibility. I actually know what I am talking about! BUT! We are phasing out Designer and Affinity in 2022 Q1 - and replacing it with feature complete and algorithmically competent alternatives. Publisher is unsuitable for serious use, and was never adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omgitsdose Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Wondering if there had been any official feedback in regards to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlacierFox Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) Just created an account to ask if we're actually gonna see any action on this. Just moved over to Windows 11 and was met with an out-of-place UI. I'd expect this state of the art graphic design application to at least follow the UI guidelines of the operating system it's running on. I mean, I don't have any distinguishing visual problems with it like the OP bit it kinda just looks.... unprofessional. Confused at the other 'Well it works fine with sharp corners' characters in this thread too - like there's a problem with someone who values visually appealing and consistent software. also thanks @bitegr, MicaForEveryone seems to be a workaround for the time being. Cheers, Danny. Edited August 4 by GlacierFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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