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I use PagePlus X9 now, but I missed under ebook export these features:

- export only selected page (only in PDF)

- do not export hidden layers.

These important, if I sign an ebook for my fans, and I need delete/add plus page to my book...

 

And I need special header format for print/PDF and epub export too, because I added more space before every header for printed/PDF version, but in EPUB/MOBI will I don't need these spaces... I have printed and ebook version now for same project.

 

I hope these features will be include in Publisher...

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15 hours ago, JWilliams4422 said:

Will Affinity Publisher have Animations and Epub (Fixed Layout) like Adobe InDesign

 

I recon the first release will carry the essentials, and then the future releases will get into the other stuff.


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I'm a part time graphics designer, creating mainly web page visual elements, business cards and logos. I have been using Photoshop CS6 and Inkscape for ages and have been reluctant to purchase expensive Adobe license for my occasional needs. Then, couple of months ago, I checked out Affinity products and wow - they really shine. All the tools I need and the user interface feels snappy and has some clever functionality. -> Purchased

My client, who was really happy with a website layout and graphics that I created earlier, asked me to design two company brochures and two magazine ads. I realized that I will need a proper professional tool which supports exporting high resolution PDF with bleeds and crop marks for a printing house. Damn. Do I need to purchase Adobe InDesign license just for this? Maybe just for one month? Nah, the client probably needs updates every now and then as their product line changes. But then, after searching more, I found PagePlus X9 - very cheap. After watching couple of videos and reading some reviews I decided to buy it and give it a try. Bingo! It seem to have all the things I need for the job - spread pages, text flow between text frames, hi res PDF export with printing-house-friendly options.

That's my story. I'm very pleased what Serif is currently doing. And I'm not a big fan of what Adobe is doing these days - using their hegemony to build a stiff monetizing model which really does not feel fair for everyone. I hope Serif succeed with the Publisher and brings some healthy competition to the market.

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4 hours ago, Bri-Toon said:

the first release will carry the essentials

 

As I'm sure you're aware, Brian, there's a wide range of views about what constitutes "the essentials"! You only have to look at the innumerable posts lamenting the absence of this or that "basic" feature from AD and/or APh.

 


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19 hours ago, Alfred said:

 

As I'm sure you're aware, Brian, there's a wide range of views about what constitutes "the essentials"! You only have to look at the innumerable posts lamenting the absence of this or that "basic" feature from AD and/or APh.

 

 

True on that. What seems essential to some people but not others can be very subjective indeed, so I'll put it this way instead. Affinity will release what they think seems right for the time being, and then maybe they will surprise customers with other goodies needed features.


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well for me designer and photo had from the start what I could call essentials, everything I requested afterwards (some of which are already implemented) it was mostly for my easy of use.

It is not like I couldn't get the job done, it was just that I could do it easier with some tweaks here and there (like the search box like fnt menu).

So I believe that when publisher will be out, it will have enough to get the job done and from there on it will be mostly additions to make the job easier.


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Will you be able to implement any from of IMDL import/export for Publisher? Like it or not, Adobe is industry standard and being able to convert their files is probably an essential feature. Back when Quark was still king, being able to pull open their files in Adobe made it much easier to switch.

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/indesign/sdk/cs6/idml/idml-specification.pdf

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On 2/18/2018 at 7:25 PM, AtelierCunha said:

Any news during winter/spring?

 

we know that it will arrive by 2018, no other official information. They are developing software, there are many variables.

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40 minutes ago, Michelangelo_ said:

 

we know that it will arrive by 2018, no other official information. They are developing software, there are many variables.

They said summer of 2018 so that can be as late as September 20th. But if they run into issue and have to postpone, let's all take in in stride and with a good nature

 

I encourage them however to make sure it can import Pageplus files to save users a lot of work. I remember grumbling about having to reinstall Photoplus so I could export file and then bring them into Affinity Photo. 


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2 hours ago, Rick G said:

I encourage them however to make sure it can import Pageplus files to save users a lot of work. I remember grumbling about having to reinstall Photoplus so I could export file and then bring them into Affinity Photo. 

Rick G,

 

I'm pretty sure that the developers have stated that they don't plan on Affinity Publisher having the ability to import PagePlus files other than if you export your PagePlus files as PDF files, then you'd be able to do it.

 

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They'd be automatically requested to add support - again- for all other legacy products in the full Affinity line. If there are technical issues to do that, as they explained -if I remember well- I'd be to think same issues would be to add that to APub.  Even if not the case, we are sure there were issues to do so for the other legacy products import into AP and AD.  Would I expect those users to not to complain seeing legacy is indeed supported in Apub for PP but wasn't for their specific legacy product ? Absolutely not, I'd be too naive to think so. So, it'd lead them to a huge global problem, IMO. Don't take me wrong, I'm since always a fan of flexible I/O options, as have used always a lot of apps simultaneously, been like this for ever. I just see these *huge* obstacles for the matter.


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43 minutes ago, SrPx said:

They'd be automatically requested to add support - again- for all other legacy products in the full Affinity line. If there are technical issues to do that, as they explained -if I remember well- I'd be to think same issues would be to add that to APub.  Even if not the case, we are sure there were issues to do so for the other legacy products import into AP and AD.  Would I expect those users to not to complain seeing legacy is indeed supported in Apub for PP but wasn't for their specific legacy product ? Absolutely not, I'd be too naive to think so. So, it'd lead them to a huge global problem, IMO. Don't take me wrong, I'm since always a fan of flexible I/O options, as have used always a lot of apps simultaneously, been like this for ever. I just see these *huge* obstacles for the matter.

Hmmm THey can provide import export for the proprietary Adobe PSD format but providing the same for their own product would be a "huge obstacle"?

All that is needed is to map the fields from one to the other. Will you have to rename layers back to what you want? (Carry that to any other imported fields

Probably

BUt you will be able to get your rewrite of War an Peace\ce into Publisher without retyping ...


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Rick, it doesn't matter what you or I think could or should be possible. Serif has said it isn't gonna happen.

 

And just how well does the psd import and export work anyway? I find it lacking myself. Or, EPS? 

 

In any case, keep PP for work that is better to not bring forward and use APub for newer work. 

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Well not retyping, there's ctrl + c or export to other text formats....but yeah, tons of re-formatting and design, I guess.

They have said is technically much more complex that you seem to imagine it is. I kindda believe them.

 

*cough* PSD is quite the main industry standard, of... many, well, all sectors that have anything to do with 2D, from games, movies, science/medical/etc, fashion, Photography, you name it. PS has dominated (shall we like it or not) EVERYTHING, so does its format. As a freelancer i tell you: clients work massively with this format (tend to hand files with tons of ultra complex layers and layer effects).  These things are often decided in terms of % of potential  money (like about making a Linux version or not, or a port of Affinity to Ninetndo 64.) It'd had undeniable advantages (specially the Nintendo case), but is all considered thinking on what has better possibilities to pay employees' salaries, rent, company growth, etc. Companies tend to go for the safest bets, specially with a non PS-sized staff. 

 

Also, PSD import is far from seamless in any software, is not like they have achieved that which you mean in Affinity (I have powers, I can see the future...it'd be changing the situation of pissed off legacy users for not having their import, to legacy users very angry for a ton of issues when importing those(yes, it's their code, but they have stated is a tricky technical situation!)). Specific features like layer effects I've yet to see any package that does it *well*, when importing PSDs. All do a flattening, rasterizing, cr4pping the fonts, or simply ruin the thing. Affinity is one of the best in these imports, but still. They have not gotten a full PSD import. I doubt anyone but Adobe can , is not open source.

 

EDIT:  Had not seen MikeW's post while I posted this.

 

 


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I was able to save all my PhotoPlus files as PSDs and bring them into AP. Admittedly they were not super compiled, just a few straight forward layers

They said it ain't gonna happen? I am saying they should reconsidder

 

I am not invested in this as most of what I have CAN be cat and pasted into a new document. I am certainly not invested to the point I want to suffer one upmanship over it

But including it is call ... ... *****SUPPORT *****. and it allows an end user to puck up an old document and save it out in the new format before continuing.

 


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11 minutes ago, Rick G said:

They said it ain't gonna happen?

 

I think they did, yep...

 

11 minutes ago, Rick G said:

But including it is call ... ... *****SUPPORT *****. and it allows an end user to puck up an old document and save it out in the new format before continuing.

 

 

I believe the issue here is it is technically quite, way, way more complex than you think, from what i read from them in several occasions. Don't think of a python app you create with a relatively small number of lines of code.. until any of us could see the code (and that's FOR SURE industry secret with an army of ninja lawyers behind the legal NDAs and other stuff, or that's always been the case with developer companies even being the poor designer/artist... still needed to sign all those and work like if we were some dark organization, lol) - and be able to understand it - ( I wouldn't in a million years, all I can code (programming code) is a bit of python and a bit VB code, and practically forgotten the 100% of the latter) we can't  know what's going on there, and one needs to trust them, as the other only way is the open source model, but that needs a company redesign from scratch, and I guess leave some hundreds of families without income, under the bridge. (when started from scratch, an open source company can be very profitable, tho, but totally different ball game)

 

Besides, is kind of the butterfly chaos theory, crap multiplies... As said, imports in AP and AD would be required to avoid a fierce revolt of those other users.. and then, import among the other apps, etc. Count on this is starting with a single import from one app to the non legacy one seems to have serious technical issues.

 

I don't "like" that it is so, I just state the obvious from the data we have.


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You win.


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Do I get a cookie?  :D

 

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4 hours ago, Rick G said:

They said it ain't gonna happen? I am saying they should reconsidder

I think they said a major problem with conversion was features. There are features in PP that are not going to be in AP. It is probably going to take AP a few versions to catch up with PP feature wise. All the Serif training books were produced in PPX9.

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3 hours ago, InfoCentral said:

I think they said a major problem with conversion was features. There are features in PP that are not going to be in AP. It is probably going to take AP a few versions to catch up with PP feature wise. All the Serif training books were produced in PPX9.

I think I was talking about bringing data into the new program. There are some complex documents. Just get them in was the only point I was trying to made


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3 minutes ago, InfoCentral said:

Great then PDF is your bridge. Problem solved.

 

Text in a PDF is often broken up into small chunks. The Affinity apps do (try to) group lines of text into text frames, but there's no way to automatically reconstruct a 'story' comprising a set of linked frames. The ideal solution would be to allow import of *.stt files saved from the WritePlus text editor within PagePlus, but I don't know how realistic it is to expect that such a facility will be included in Affinity Publisher.

 


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You know this has been asked and explained by Serif. You have a document in PPX9 that includes several features not supported in AP yet. What do you do with these in conversion? This is the problem. If you just want to get the document into AP then PDF will do the trick. If you just want to get the document into AP and then be able to...not going to happen in version 1.

Once I read that I completely understood the problem.

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1 hour ago, InfoCentral said:

Great then PDF is your bridge. Problem solved.

 Alfred explained why that is NOT an option. No need to be snotty. It is a simple discussion about bringing legacy SERIF documents into the new offering

Someone said it isn't going to happen

I hope they take another look

I don't expect an import would be perfect. A graphic may need adjusting etc.

But if I have a 20 page Document with a 1st page column spilling to a column on page 13, how do you propose to use PDF to handle that and bring it into a new program and maintain the flow?

 


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