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ok wtf now... I somehow got away on it's own. I have tried everything but formating the system and today, it just worked as it should. I just restarted the system in disbelief but it still works fine... Nothing have being upgraded in my system, no windows updates, no driver updates, not any other program (like onedrive that I sync files) updated in windows MS Store, the system is in the same state as it was all week long...

I did the sfc scan and came back clean. Will the restorehealth change anything on the system? I don't have java Thanks for the input

thanks, in the meantime I found every possible folder location in the user folder (windows 10), program files, or any other location that I managed to find, deleted everything, did a registry clean with ccleaner and a full virus scan just in case, reinstalled everything without moving any configs this time to make sure, that is I reconfigured and rearanged everything by a screenshot and memory but the behavior still remains. I also I'm afraid I have broken something in windows, I can't explain it otherwise. I do some tweaking here and there all the time, especially to get rid of stupid microsoft things that annoy me. Maybe I messed with something that I really shouldn't have. Anyway, I will leave it on the side for now, after all it is quite possible that I will have to format again to make a clean install once W10 go out of support at the end of the year, or move to linux... I will see what works.

Hello I have some trouble with affinity apps lately as I describe here: I'm completely desperate atm, uninstalled/reinstalled, tried both install versions for v2 designer, updated every possible driver on my machine, reseted/repaird the universal windows app version of designer, nothing. Still getting some weird lag, that while it is not deal breaking as it only happens when I first select thing or open the app, it can get up my nose sometimes. It is quite possible this is the result of me fiddling with windows at some level but I do the same in every other machine I operate and every other machine with similar setups affinity apps works fine, so I can only assume somewhere importing settings after I formated that system, some setting was not playing nice with the fresh installations and is the culprit here. So I need EVERY possible location that affinity is saving anything, even windows registry entries. So I can delete them all and do a real clean reinstall on affinity apps. Thank you

So i created a dmp file from the task manager and opened it in debugger, it gave me those results. Not sure what to make of them but maybe someone smarter than me in the affinity team can see something that I can't? Windows 10 Version 19045 MP (12 procs) Free x64 Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS Personal Edition build lab: 19041.1.amd64fre.vb_release.191206-1406 Debug session time: Fri Jul 5 17:39:00.000 2024 (UTC + 3:00) System Uptime: 2 days 6:07:55.858 Process Uptime: 0 days 0:00:38.000 ................................................................ ................................................................ ................................................................ ......................................................... Loading unloaded module list ........................................... +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This target supports Hardware-enforced Stack Protection. A HW based | | "Shadow Stack" may be available to assist in debugging and analysis. | | See aka.ms/userhsp for more info. | | | | dps @ssp | | | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ For analysis of this file, run !analyze -v mscms!CSigGaussCompressKnee::MapColor+0x11: 00007ffe`0072886d 0f2970d8 movaps xmmword ptr [rax-28h],xmm6 ds:000000e2`da9f8250=00000000000000000000000042c80078 0:041> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* * * * Exception Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* *** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for System.Core.ni.dll *** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for System.ni.dll KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1 Key : Analysis.CPU.mSec Value: 48874 Key : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec Value: 68796 Key : Analysis.IO.Other.Mb Value: 87 Key : Analysis.IO.Read.Mb Value: 2 Key : Analysis.IO.Write.Mb Value: 182 Key : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec Value: 2046 Key : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec Value: 787836 Key : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb Value: 312 Key : CLR.BuiltBy Value: NET481REL1LAST_C Key : CLR.Engine Value: CLR Key : CLR.Version Value: 4.8.9241.0 Key : Failure.Bucket Value: BREAKPOINT_80000003_mscms.dll!CSigGaussCompressKnee::MapColor Key : Failure.Hash Value: {d7aa4de0-080c-5346-a2e3-6e8c691d4efd} Key : Timeline.OS.Boot.DeltaSec Value: 194875 Key : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec Value: 38 Key : WER.OS.Branch Value: vb_release Key : WER.OS.Version Value: 10.0.19041.1 Key : WER.Process.Version Value: 2.5.3.2516 FILE_IN_CAB: Designer.DMP NTGLOBALFLAG: 0 APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS: 0 EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1) ExceptionAddress: 0000000000000000 ExceptionCode: 80000003 (Break instruction exception) ExceptionFlags: 00000000 NumberParameters: 0 FAULTING_THREAD: 000031e0 PROCESS_NAME: Designer.exe ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0x80000003 - {EXCEPTION} Breakpoint A breakpoint has been reached. 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This is so weird and worst than my case. Did you formated or just did that Windows restore to a clean state?

Completely? This is weird, I get that freeze at start and when I select any tool for the first time for this session but from there on it works as it should. Btw what is your SSD? I did had a similar issue with a patriot on my other system, that thing was 100% on activity without doing anything and freezing the app I tried to open from it.

So I decided to try an AMD HD 7790 that I have on another system that is not having any lag, the only 7XXX card that support hardware acceleration because of it's newer GPU core. Nothing changed. Still get this stupid lag on start or first selection of each tool. I'm getting so frustrated now I even consider reformating again... Also I did noticed right now that this is happening (not sure if this was happening when I started the topic mentioning only designer v2) on photo and publisher v1 that I have on my system. Still only on that system on my signature. So as a last attempt before I burn down everything, what should I delete to make a completely, really really clean installation of affinity applications?

actually inkscape is more like corel draw UI, if you have experience on this, inkscape feels right at home.

thank you I did tried 2.4 and 2.3 but didn't noticed any difference, I will try a couple of older versions to see if something changes. Maybe later during the week because at this time of the year my work is at full swing. Also forgot to mention in the last post, that system I tried last also had an older AMD GPU a 7790 that as a newer card than the 7850 (yet slower) is supporting harware acceleration and it was working fine last time I checked. But this time (opened the system after a long time, it was still in Designer 2.3) it was failing to start until I ctrl started the app to disable the hardware acceleration. This happened in both 2.3 and 2.5 that I upgraded once I opened the app. As I tried both times to re enable hardware acceleration. Without hardware acceleration it started no problem and without any lag. Now this is getting weird, because it is a legacy GPU and the last driver is from 2021, (I think I have the enterprise driver there) and similarly the 7850 in the main system (that have the lag) is also have an old driver from 2022 (none of them got anything beyond that). Given that I also tried the enterprise driver on 7850 that is also from 2021 and didn't fixed the lag, I start to wonder if there is some underlining change in windows 10 that somehow affect or bug the drivers. Why the 7790 have no lag may be explained that is actually a newer core in CGN 2.0 architecture (an this is why is the only 7XXX card to support hardware acceleration, until now). I took a look in windows updates but couldn't pinpoint anything specific but it will not be the first time that something changed and it is not in the release notes. All in all I start to suspect the GPU, it is long overdue for an upgrade but didn't felt the need so far to change it.

Just wanted to report that I tried to replicate the problem in another system and it is not there either (AMD FX 8350, 16GB DDR3, SSD, W10 latest version). Lucky me... probably something local then, but to happen in the system that I work with, oh come on I can't see anything that could probably make any difference between the systems, more or less I install the same apps all over them.

is there anywhere I can download older versions? I tried 2.4.1 that I had the installer but still get the same problem. msix and msi installers, deleted everything in the user folder to make sure nothing there is affecting it and started fresh both times, 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 still that lag. I tried to be offline or/and online just in case this was the culprit but nope same lag, logged in or not. Nothing else seems to be interacting in the task manager with affinity designer when this lag occurs, I also reinstalled chipset drivers just in case windows decided again that I'm better off with older drivers through windows update, but I have the newer drivers on anything.

I did this and it showed. But the tab never opened when I pressed the button. The thing is I can't revert all the time and need to reapply styles. I need a solution like make the button work or to have this type of fill removed from AD.

ah no sorry, I'm in v2 now, I see the button but it does nothing, only revert works.

eh well can we get some fix for this please? it now happened in a new file when I reopened it. that text frame tab mentioned above that show the button is not working anymore, I can't get the text frame tab to open, although I see the icon, when I press it, it does nothing.