AD and AP Beta 2.1.0.1713 (Mac)- Accumulation is broken...

[paolo.limoncelli]

Hi there,

I'm still experiencing this with 1.10.x but I'm pretty sure it had been solved during 2.0 Beta...

Well.. It is back again... Even preview does not show accumulation's variation anymore.

 

Basically all brushes which use Accumulation Jitter (default and creators' ones) act as "broken", and there is no difference between Flow and Accumulation.. It is like we're back to 1.2 engine... 🙃

 

Accumulation is very important for retouching tasks too.

Any chance to solve it in this cycle of fixes?

 

 

 

[paolo.limoncelli]

If you need more elements here I am with further investigations...

I'm using the Watercolour > Flat Shaped Bristles 02 where Accumulation seems to work.

I'm duplicating it then changing parameters to make it less complex... (Also you could spot a renaming bug here)

As you can see there is something dealing with Flow Jitter that creates a conflict.

If Flow Jitter is 0% Random > Accumulation Jitter seems to work

If Flow Jitter is 0% None > Accumulation Jitter is broken

 

Also Flow Jitter sticks back to Random instead of None just as it is supposed to be the default value.

So if there are brushes mixing these settings they're not acting as wanted, and all we've shown in tutorials and live sessions cannot be reproduced anymore.

 

 

[paolo.limoncelli]

Also... New brushes created in this version cannot use Accumulation at all.

The Flat Shaped Bristles 02 has been created during early stages of v2 Beta and retains that Accumulation behaviour (aside the Flow weirdness).

Here you can see me using the same nozzle and settings above, but "from scratch".

 

I cannot reproduce anymore the same brush I created in 2022.

 

PS. I'm using bold to spot keywords, do not read it as "screaming"... 😅 

 

 

[Frankentoon Studio]

I can confirm what Paolo has shown above, so there's no point on adding anything else to those issues. Hopefully this can be solved anytime soon 😊

- Enrique

[Old Bruce]

1 hour ago, paolo.limoncelli said:

PS. I'm using bold to spot keywords, do not read it as "screaming"...

I have always interpreted bold or italic as just that, an important word or phrase.

[Ash]

Yes indeed something weird did happen here where we did think it was fixed in the V2 development, but somewhere somehow it broke again. It will be sorted before 2.1 is released.

[paolo.limoncelli]

Thanks Ash!

[bayustudio]

In ipad+apple pencil, pressure accumulation was working fine in earlier ver 2 updates, but now it's broken again since the recent update.
For the desktop version, I never got this working, except in very old version like 1.8.x

Hopefully, the developer can find a solution since this functionality is essential in digital painting

"hard round pressure opacity" brush is commonly used in tutorials and courses. This bug makes people think that Affinity cannot be used for digital painting

Thanks

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1732".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[lepr]

On 3/21/2023 at 1:13 PM, Serif Info Bot said:

The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1732".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

 

@Serif Info Bot What is meant by "fixed"?

In 2.1.0.1732 on macOS, accumulation is still acting the same as flow when a brush has no hue, saturation or luminosity jitter. 

[paolo.limoncelli]

I noticed that now it works fine for existent/imported brushes, but it is still there for new ones

Both Round Brushes (internal cycles).

 

And Intensity

 

 

 

[Chris B]

@paolo.limoncelli

Is this a fair comparison? Screenshots of V1 1.8 vs V2 2.1

 

[paolo.limoncelli]

I don't have 1.8 anymore and 1.10.6 is currently broken too, but from your 1.8 Brush Editor it looks as it should be (even if I guess you have Wet Edges On from your canvas).

Flow could stay off, since it is not needed and could be confusing.

As @,,, wrote above in 1.10.6, 2.0 and this 1732 Beta  you need at least one of the HSL Jitters enabled(*) in order to make Accumulation work.

You can clearly see it here.

 

This is a 1.8.x which had a Hue jitter too. It looks as it should, but if I turn H off typing 0 or setting to None...

It turns Accumulation OFF again.

Please check these tools as attachment.

(*) It seems to me an ancient bug, I somehow remember it at certain point during very first iPad Beta.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Accumulation Issues.afbrushes

[Chris B]

Right I see what you mean now - sorry. I've updated the report.

[paolo.limoncelli]

No problem Chris!

Now we're back to the HLS prerequisites, with previous Beta it was totally broken, so it is in any case a small step towards its solution... 😀

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Pixel Brush Tool fails to output if using Accumulation or Flow Jitter when its not 100%" (REF: AFP-3919) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1736".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[paolo.limoncelli]

@Serif Info Bot Still here with Beta 1736...

 

 

[paolo.limoncelli]

Sir Andy Somerfield vs the Accumulation Golem ... 🤪

 

[aji]

++++1

[Chris B]

I have reopened the two recently closed bug reports regarding Brush Accumulation. 

[paolo.limoncelli]

It looks fine now!

Flow and Accumulation work together and independently again.

Also HLS Jitters are no needed anymore!

Great!

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1742".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[Chris B]

Thanks Paolo  

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Pixel Brush Tool fails to output if using Accumulation or Flow Jitter when its not 100%" (REF: AFP-3919) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1742".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[Umiama]

Do you know if there's some backports updation for 1.10.x? Or I have to pay for these fixes😌@Chris B