paolo.limoncelli Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Hi there, I'm still experiencing this with 1.10.x but I'm pretty sure it had been solved during 2.0 Beta... Well.. It is back again... Even preview does not show accumulation's variation anymore. Basically all brushes which use Accumulation Jitter (default and creators' ones) act as "broken", and there is no difference between Flow and Accumulation.. It is like we're back to 1.2 engine... 🙃 Accumulation is very important for retouching tasks too. Any chance to solve it in this cycle of fixes? TheFlow and Frankentoon Studio 2 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 If you need more elements here I am with further investigations... I'm using the Watercolour > Flat Shaped Bristles 02 where Accumulation seems to work. Screen Recording 2023-03-08 at 14.25.32.mp4 I'm duplicating it then changing parameters to make it less complex... (Also you could spot a renaming bug here) As you can see there is something dealing with Flow Jitter that creates a conflict. If Flow Jitter is 0% Random > Accumulation Jitter seems to work If Flow Jitter is 0% None > Accumulation Jitter is broken Also Flow Jitter sticks back to Random instead of None just as it is supposed to be the default value. So if there are brushes mixing these settings they're not acting as wanted, and all we've shown in tutorials and live sessions cannot be reproduced anymore. Frankentoon Studio and Dazmondo77 2 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 Also... New brushes created in this version cannot use Accumulation at all. The Flat Shaped Bristles 02 has been created during early stages of v2 Beta and retains that Accumulation behaviour (aside the Flow weirdness). Here you can see me using the same nozzle and settings above, but "from scratch". Screen Recording 2023-03-08 at 15.03.33.mp4.mp4 I cannot reproduce anymore the same brush I created in 2022. PS. I'm using bold to spot keywords, do not read it as "screaming"... 😅 Frankentoon Studio and Dazmondo77 2 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankentoon Studio Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I can confirm what Paolo has shown above, so there's no point on adding anything else to those issues. Hopefully this can be solved anytime soon 😊 - Enrique paolo.limoncelli, Dazmondo77 and moi.cool 1 2 Quote • Frankentoon Studio - Tutorials and Resources for Designer, Photo and Publisher Follow us on Instagram | Follow us on Twitter | Like us on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, paolo.limoncelli said: PS. I'm using bold to spot keywords, do not read it as "screaming"... I have always interpreted bold or italic as just that, an important word or phrase. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ash Posted March 8, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 8, 2023 Yes indeed something weird did happen here where we did think it was fixed in the V2 development, but somewhere somehow it broke again. It will be sorted before 2.1 is released. paolo.limoncelli, TheFlow, lepr and 1 other 2 2 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Thanks Ash! Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayustudio Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 In ipad+apple pencil, pressure accumulation was working fine in earlier ver 2 updates, but now it's broken again since the recent update. For the desktop version, I never got this working, except in very old version like 1.8.x Hopefully, the developer can find a solution since this functionality is essential in digital painting "hard round pressure opacity" brush is commonly used in tutorials and courses. This bug makes people think that Affinity cannot be used for digital painting Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted March 21, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 21, 2023 The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1732". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 1:13 PM, Serif Info Bot said: The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1732". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. @Serif Info Bot What is meant by "fixed"? In 2.1.0.1732 on macOS, accumulation is still acting the same as flow when a brush has no hue, saturation or luminosity jitter. paolo.limoncelli and IPv6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 I noticed that now it works fine for existent/imported brushes, but it is still there for new ones Both Round Brushes (internal cycles). And Intensity Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted March 27, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 27, 2023 @paolo.limoncelli Is this a fair comparison? Screenshots of V1 1.8 vs V2 2.1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 I don't have 1.8 anymore and 1.10.6 is currently broken too, but from your 1.8 Brush Editor it looks as it should be (even if I guess you have Wet Edges On from your canvas). Flow could stay off, since it is not needed and could be confusing. As @,,, wrote above in 1.10.6, 2.0 and this 1732 Beta you need at least one of the HSL Jitters enabled(*) in order to make Accumulation work. You can clearly see it here. This is a 1.8.x which had a Hue jitter too. It looks as it should, but if I turn H off typing 0 or setting to None... It turns Accumulation OFF again. Please check these tools as attachment. (*) It seems to me an ancient bug, I somehow remember it at certain point during very first iPad Beta. Accumulation Issues.afbrushes Frankentoon Studio 1 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted March 27, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 27, 2023 Right I see what you mean now - sorry. I've updated the report. paolo.limoncelli 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 No problem Chris! Now we're back to the HLS prerequisites, with previous Beta it was totally broken, so it is in any case a small step towards its solution... 😀 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted March 29, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 29, 2023 The issue "Pixel Brush Tool fails to output if using Accumulation or Flow Jitter when its not 100%" (REF: AFP-3919) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1736". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 @Serif Info Bot Still here with Beta 1736... Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Sir Andy Somerfield vs the Accumulation Golem ... 🤪 Frankentoon Studio and lepr 2 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Staff Chris B Posted March 31, 2023 Staff Share Posted March 31, 2023 I have reopened the two recently closed bug reports regarding Brush Accumulation. Frankentoon Studio and lepr 1 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 It looks fine now! Flow and Accumulation work together and independently again. Also HLS Jitters are no needed anymore! Great! Chris B 1 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Share Posted April 18, 2023 The issue "Brush accumulation appears broken in 1.9/2.0" (REF: AFP-4823) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1742". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Share Posted April 18, 2023 Thanks Paolo Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted April 19, 2023 Staff Share Posted April 19, 2023 The issue "Pixel Brush Tool fails to output if using Accumulation or Flow Jitter when its not 100%" (REF: AFP-3919) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1742". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umiama Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Do you know if there's some backports updation for 1.10.x? Or I have to pay for these fixes😌@Chris B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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