All supported image files now available from File->Open in Publisher

[Ash]

Apps: Publisher
Platforms: All

Previously Publisher only gave options to open document file types from File->Open. There have been a number of requests to extend this to allow image files to be opened in that dialog, especially for those who now directly edit images and other graphics work using studio link functionality in Publisher so this has now been added.

[Petar Petrenko]

Wow, this is great.

[Paul Chiswick]

Brilliant!

[jmwellborn]

I am finding something for which the logic escapes me.  If I FILE>Open an image file (i.e. PNG or JPG) in Publisher 2.2.0.1881, it is placed as a locked background layer even if I don't have master pages set for the document.  If I FILE>OPEN an .afpub file, even with a single page, the bottom layer is not locked.   The samples below are in reverse order.

 

[walt.farrell]

4 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

I am finding something for which the logic escapes me.  If I FILE>Open an image file (i.e. PNG or JPG) in Publisher 2.2.0.1881, it is placed as a locked background layer even if I don't have master pages set for the document.  If I FILE>OPEN an .afpub file, even with a single page, the bottom layer is not locked.

It's standard processing in Photo and Designer, when Opening image files, to name the single layer Background and (if specified in Settings, General) to Lock it.

That's all you're seeing here, isn't it?

[jmwellborn]

No, that isn't all I am seeing and I am in Publisher.  Here is another example, saved as an .afpub file then FILE>OPEN in Publisher.  I have attached my Performance setting which is under User Interface.  As you can see, there isn't a Background Layer and nothing is locked.

[walt.farrell]

35 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

and I am in Publisher.

It works in Publisher, just as in Photo and Designer, and the function/behavior  is specific (I think) to opening image files.

35 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

As you can see, there isn't a Background Layer and nothing is locked.

Right. The setting is for documents with a layer named Background. As you don't have one, it doesn't behave the same way as when you opened a JPG or PNG.

[jmwellborn]

It is obviously specific to opening image files.  Every document I have opened in Publisher (and I have tried several) which was saved as an .afpub file opens without a background layer and without being locked -- with or without master pages.   I think we have flogged this topic enough.

 

[fde101]

14 hours ago, jmwellborn said:

Every document I have opened in Publisher (and I have tried several) which was saved as an .afpub file opens without a background layer and without being locked

If you are opening a document file (such as any native Affinity file) you should see an accurate representation of what was saved in that file.  If there was a locked background layer when the file was saved, you should see one when you open it; if there was not, then it should not be there when you open it.

 

When you "open" an image file which does not natively have a concept of layers by itself, the content of that file needs to go somewhere, meaning a layer needs to be created for it (Publisher is not actually opening the image file directly, but rather creating a new Publisher document and setting it to match the content of the image file; a Publisher document needs a layer to store that content).  Traditionally (I believe originating from Photoshop), that layer is called "Background" and is locked to prevent the user from accidentally moving it out of position.

[Kev Borg]

Hi Design Friends,

What is happening to you is Normal ok.

It is doing exactly what it supposed to.

 

** Next time you want to bring an Image Raster File made of Pixels, in to yr document, like a .jpeg .png .tiff

use Import or Place instead as that is normal for raster files. It will import it, and you just click where you want it,

the Image appears on Page, then the Layer appears in the layer stack and yr good to go.

 

** Opening a document is normally only used for the Apps Native Files or other Files with Multiple Layers that it can Edit and work on.

For example: you can Open a .PDF or .EPS or a .SVG file because they have Layers, so even if it is the First File yr Opening,

because they have Multiple Layers, it will Open the File, with all Layers and put them in the layer stack, read to to work on and move around

and No Background layer will appear at the bottom ok, because there were multiple Layers in the File and it knows it is Not a single

layer raster file, like a jpeg, png, tiff etc..

Publisher can't directly Edit a single layer image file like a Photo, when it is .jpeg .png etc, that's why it treats only single layer raster pixel files this way.

 

IMAGE FILES = IMPORT OR PLACE

EDITABLE FILES = OPEN

 

Hope this helps in some way, feel free to ask any questions

cheers Kev

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Kev Borg said:

Publisher can't directly Edit a single layer image file like a Photo, when it is .jpeg .png etc, that's why it treats only single layer raster pixel files this way.

But now, in the 2.2 Beta (and soon in the 2.2 release), it can. That new capability is what this topic is about.

[Affinityconfusesme]

Patrick mentioned that 2.2 is coming out next week FYI.

[Kev Borg]

Hey guys,

thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

 

From: Walt.,Farrell

"But now, in the 2.2 Beta (and soon in the 2.2 release), it can. That new capability is what this topic is about."

 

I just tried out Publisher (Beta) 2.2.0.2005 and It still can't edit a image file like a jpeg, png etc when you Open it.

and it still puts it on it's own layer and calls it Background.

Even if you already have a blank new file opened and you go to Open a image file .jpeg it will Not put the image in the existing document, it

will still Open a new file and put it their on it's own layer and still calls it Background.

 

Are you talking about a different version than the one I mentioned or am I missing something.

 

Thanks guys

cheers Kev

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Previously one could not open an image file in publisher to be edited as a single image document through File>Open like Photo/Designer.
One had to drag drop to the UI to make this happen or right click in explorer/finder/dam to open it with publisher.
Open means a single document of the image file and it will be rasterized on opening to edit at pixel level.
Placing will put it into an already open document and remains an image layer not rasterized on opening.

At least 2 options to have it as image layer instead of the rasterized pixel layer are;
Open the image file and place again the same image file on top of the rasterized version.
There's also the option to convert an pixel layer into an image layer through Menu>Layer>Convert to image Resource.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, Kev Borg said:

I just tried out Publisher (Beta) 2.2.0.2005 and It still can't edit an image file like a jpeg, png etc when you Open it.

Prior to .2005 you could not (easily) Open a JPG, PNG, etc. at all. Now you can. 

Are you having trouble getting Open to work? Or trouble editing after you Open the file?

2 hours ago, Kev Borg said:

and it still puts it on it's own layer and calls it Background.

That's exactly what happens when you Open a JPG or PNG in Photo, or Designer, too. Why is it surprising from Publisher?

[Kev Borg]

It's ok Walt you have misunderstood me, I am not having any problems

I was letting you know that nothing has changed, it still does the same as it always has,

whether it's D or P. 

I was explaining to JW Wellborn why is thought he was having problems.

And No Publisher Does Not Edit single Layer Raster Files, it never has and still doesn't.

Have a great day.

Thanks Kev

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11 minutes ago, Kev Borg said:

JW Wellborn

She.

 

11 minutes ago, Kev Borg said:

And No Publisher Does Not Edit single Layer Raster Files, it never has and still doesn't.

Humbug

[markw]

15 hours ago, Kev Borg said:

And No Publisher Does Not Edit single Layer Raster Files, it never has and still doesn't.

The following works for me every time;
Launch Publisher.
File > Open...
Select raster image file.
Once the image has loaded switch to Photo persona.
Start editing the image.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, markw said:

Once the image has loaded switch to Photo persona.
Start editing the image.

Depending on the editing you want to perform, you shouldn't even need to switch to the Photo Persona.

[walt.farrell]

On 9/16/2023 at 6:19 PM, Kev Borg said:

And No Publisher Does Not Edit single Layer Raster Files, it never has and still doesn't.

As others have stated, yes, it does, starting in 2.2.

 

[Kev Borg]

Thanks Walt,

That's my fault for not making it clear, my apologies

Yes i understand using Adjustment Layers, Layer Effects

but i was referring to the normal raw ability to Fully Edit a Raster File

which is what we normally think about when we talk about editing a raster file

like Photo or Photoshop does, sharpening, resampling, cloning, painting, paths, etc.

And to do those Full Edits I use Photo to Fully Edit the Raster Files which gives me the full freestyle edit ability.

 

But when you said Publisher could Edit I wanted to find out what you meant and I took it to mean fully edit

which is not the case, but yes yr right you can edit certain things and at certain levels of Edit.

thanks for yr time Walt it's always appreciated and again my apologies for the rabbit hole.

cheers kev

[walt.farrell]

7 hours ago, Kev Borg said:

And to do those Full Edits I use Photo to Fully Edit the Raster Files which gives me the full freestyle edit ability.

You could also simply switch to the Photo Persona in Publisher, given that you also own Photo, as suggested above by @markw.

That won't handle opening RAW images, but this topic is describing new functionality for opening raster images (JPG, PNG, TIFF).

[markw]

Publisher will open RAW files too. Though some kind of “default processing” might happen in the background during loading maybe??? But they do load.
There are of course no Photo "Personas" i.e. Develop, Liquify, Tone Mapping or Export Persona.
All the usual editing tools are available in the Tools Panel and the ‘Live Filters’ tab in the Layers Panel is also available when in Publisher’s Photo persona.
All in all you can do a lot of extensive image editing in Publisher!