4dimage Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 German dialog "layout page properties", button cut off: Patrick Connor 1 Quote Hardware: Windows 11 Pro (23H2, build 22631.4317, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1041.0), Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K, 32 Core@3.20 GHz, 128 GB RAM, NVIDIA RTX A4000 (16GB VRAM, driver 551.61), 1TB + 2TB SSD. 1 Display set to native 2560 x 1440. Software: Affinity v1 - Designer/Publisher/Photo (1.10.6.1665), Affinity v2 (universal license) - Designer/Publisher/Photo, v2 betas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 2 minutes ago, MikeTO said: You've always gotten a blue bar when dragging a page into a facing page spread to let you know that the page will be moved there. Well, Affinity is so near to drag and drop creation of multi page spreads. They need just to allow the page to stay there instead of moving it elsewhere. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Thank you for adding multi-page spreads. I know it must have been a lot of work. I'll never use it myself but it's a feature near and dear to me. I will have a lot of feedback. 🙂 Page flow issues: There seem to be some issues but I haven't nailed it down yet. In this example, page 2 should be a left page in a separate spread with a ghost to its right but instead it's stuck to page 1. I can't unstick it. Master A is a regular facing-page master. Trailing ghosts: In the same example, there are two ghosts after page 13 that shouldn't be there. This spread was originally based on master B which had 3 sides but I changed it to master A and then cleared the master and the ghosts wouldn't go away. This is a repeatable issue. Ghost pages: Do they really need to be shown at all? Most users will never use multi-page spreads yet they're going to see a left ghost when they create any standard facing-page document. I think the ghosts will trigger a lot of questions and I don't know when it would be helpful for me to see this. If I apply a 3-page master to a 2-page spread, I either did it deliberately and don't need to see the ghost or did it accidentally and I'll quickly figure out that there isn't a third page. Patrick Connor 1 Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 7 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said: Well, Affinity is so near to drag and drop creation of multi page spreads. They need just to allow the page to stay there instead of moving it elsewhere. You can do what you're asking for if you turn off Move Page Options > Reflow Pages in the panel options menu. But if you want pages to reflow, you first have to create a multi-page / island spread or else Publisher will think your'e just moving a page. Petar Petrenko, fde101 and Jon P 3 Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 minutes ago, MikeTO said: You can do what you're asking for if you turn off Move Page Options > Reflow Pages in the panel options menu. Yes, that is what I was searching for. Thanks, Mike. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 When creating PDF with crop marks from 3 page spread in Publisher, there are no crop marks for the spine as you can see from the attachments (compare with InDesign example). The InDesign file is the first one with text in Times New Roman: Dazmondo77 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Viewing a spread: Double-clicking a multi-page spread's label to view the spread doesn't work, it will always fit the right-most page of the spread in the window. Selecting and Viewing a spread: You've always been able to select a facing-page spread by clicking its spine and view the spread by double-clicking its spine. You can't do that in 2.6 with any spread of 3+ pages - clicking the spine or the separators between the other pages will select the closest page. Double-clicking the spine or separators will view the closest page. While you can always click its label, I think you should be able to click at least the spine bug also any of the separators to select the spread. Applying a master: Ditto, you've always been able to drag a master over a facing-page spread's spine to apply it. That doesn't work with 3+ page spreads. Dragging pages out of spreads: I'm finding it difficult to drag pages out of spreads. If I drag page 5 out of its spread and drop it to the left of page 7, I would expect it to either create a new 1-page spread (because Reflow is off for this page) or switch to Reflow and become the new left page of the reformed page 7-8 spread. Instead I get another 3 page spread with reflow off. This is not a desired outcome. I thought it might be master B (3 pages) messing it up so I applied master A (2 pages) and it's still a spread. I can't find any way to remove page 5 from this spread. Jon P 1 Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Change number of master sides: In 2.5, I could create a facing-page master and later convert it to a single master with Spread Properties. The single/facing control is gone in 2.6 and there isn't a replacement control to change the number of sides. If I create a 3-page master and later decide it should be 4, I have to create a new master from scratch. Max # of pages in a spread: The number of sides for a master is limited to 10 but there isn't an upper-limit on the number of pages in a spread. I believe ID limits you to 10 and another app I used limited you to 99 which was too high. I just created a spread with 800 pages which is a really bad idea - the panel becomes useless, the app becomes sluggish, and the master page popup is cut off when I mouse over the spread. Perhaps there should be a limit of 10 or 20? I think you may have intended to limit it to 10 because Add Pages won't let me extend a spread that has more than 10 pages, although I can do it easily by dragging pages into the spread. Or with the following issue. Duplicate spread: Once you have one good 3-page spread you might want to create another and will choose the Duplicate command. If you right-click the spread label and choose Duplicate, you'll get a 6-page spread instead of a duplicate. There is a workaround - drag copy the spread. Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Page navigation controls: The navigation control probably needs to show a page range rather than list the page numbers because it no longer fits in the available space as shown on the left. The most it can handle at the default UI font size is three 3-digit page numbers in a document of up to 999 pages. I believe the control was scaled to show up to 1234,1235 of 9999 at the default font size - going above 10K pages doesn't fit in 2.5. Page numbering: I expected page numbering to match the document's starting side even with spreads of odd numbers of pages. In this example, I expected number 7 to be skipped or repeated and for what is page 7 to be numbered 6 or 8. I was curious whether you'd skip or repeat but was surprised that the page was numbered 7, putting all following pages out of sequence. Without skipping numbers, users will have to create a section following every multi-page spread with an odd number of pages so they can restart page numbering. IMO, repeating numbers (so what is 7 below would be numbered 6) is the most useful option because users rarely number the extra pages in a fold as part of the main sequence, but skipping would also make sense. Sections starting in multi-page spreads: Sections can start on the right of a facing-page spread which is used frequently in books but you would never want to start a section in the middle of a multi-page spread. And the problem with doing this is it will make integrating section management into the Pages panel rather difficult in the future - you won't be able to visually group the spreads in section 1 together if a spread spans two sections. Apply Master > Size & Count tooltip: I think "spilling" should be changed to something like "separating" for end users. Master tooltip: Shouldn't a spread's masters be listed in the order of its pages? In this example, I'd expect "Master A - Right" to be listed between the two Master B's below. Skipped master page: I assume this is by design and no sane person would do this so it's not important but it surprised me. I created a 4-page master and a 4-page spread base don it. Then I applied a different master to its third page. The last page of the spread is based on page 3 of the master. I expected it to be based on page 4 and for the content on page 3 to not be shown. Add Pages > Spread Wrapping: I find the "wrapping" term confusing as an end user. What does wrapping have to do with creating a new spread or breaking one into pieces? Maybe the label should just be “Spread”? I think the Flow Pages and Extend Spread options are more trouble than they're worth and New Spread could be a checkbox: Only a small minority of users ever create multi-page spreads and these options will add confusion. When adding pages in the middle of a spread, Flow Pages does the same thing as Extend Spread so it's unnecessary to have both. When adding pages in the middle of a spread with reflow off, choosing New Spread is bad choice to make because you'll get 3 spreads. Also note a small bug when adding a new 3-page spread before page 6 in this example - the ghost pages to the left of page 6 are shown in white instead of grey. The only time I think it would be useful to have these options is if you're adding pages outside of a spread and you want to join an existing facing page spread to the newly-added pages in one swoop. But you could just add the pages with New Spread checked and then drag the two spreads together. If this edge case was dropped then Flow and Extend could be removed and New Spread could be a checkbox and then: If I check New Spread it would do that regardless of where I add the pages If New Spread was unchecked and I add pages inside a multi-page spread it would always extend If New Spread was unchecked and I add pages outside of a multi-page spread it would always flow Also, users working with non-facing page docs are doing to see this and be confused by Extend Spread - they may not be aware that every page is a spread. Creating a single-page spread: If I want to create a single page spread out of a left page of a facing-page spread, I right-click the page, choose Spread Properties, click Selected Pages, and disable reflow. But Publisher turns off reflow for the right page, too. It ignores the page I selected. After doing this, I'm left with a 2-page spread and I have to drag the second page out of it. I don't think this is terrible, but it is a bit confusing. Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktor CR Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Will it eventually be possible to also extend pages vertically, e.g. making a 3-page spread, where the third page also extends downward, or creating a folded map of 4x3 pages? Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartRc Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Hi I can see why there has been an extended period of Beta updates. Thank you for adding this intensive and impressive feature/s. As @MikeTO stated this is a lot of work and a valuable update...Yet again many thanks for your hard work...but will do my best to break it!😀 From a quick overview ..I have had 2 crashes so far 1. Repositioning a page in a spread (have not been able to reproduce this yet) 2. Edit Margin Colour I came across a crash while attempting to edit the margin colour on a new Master page (Spread/single page). I thought initially it was a product of the messy file while testing (which is attached below)..There is not much to it just a collection of different spreads. In Masters >[single page] 'marginColour' then Spread Properties>Margins. Try changing the colour and apply | close.. Publisher folds! I tried to recreate with a new file and single A3 page..It can be reproduced. masters and spreads 01.zip Quote Affinity Version 1 (10.6) Affinity Version 2.5.5 All (Designer | Photo | Publisher) Beta; 2.6.0.2831 OS:Windows 10 Pro 22H2 OS Build 19045.4412+ Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19056.1000.0 Rig:AMD FX 8350 and AMD Radeon (R9 380 Series) Settings Version 21.04.01 Radeon Settings Version 2020 20.1.03) + Wacom Intuous 4M with driver 6.3.41-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 50 minutes ago, Viktor CR said: Will it eventually be possible to also extend pages vertically, e.g. making a 3-page spread, where the third page also extends downward, or creating a folded map of 4x3 pages? I can't speak for the future, but in case others are wondering, you can create vertical spreads only in documents with pages arranged vertically - you cannot mix spread types in one document. Nor can you combine vertical and horizontal folds in one spread which would be super cool but obviously a bit niche. That would be a fun UX to design though! 54 minutes ago, StuartRc said: I came across a crash while attempting to edit the margin colour on a new Master page (Spread/single page). I thought initially it was a product of the messy file while testing (which is attached below)..There is not much to it just a collection of different spreads. In Masters >[single page] 'marginColour' then Spread Properties>Margins. Try changing the colour and apply | close.. Publisher folds! I haven't seen any crashes with margin colour and I can't duplicate this with your document. But I'm on macOS so perhaps it's a windows issue. What about similar colour controls such as those in View > Guides? StuartRc and Viktor CR 1 1 Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartRc Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 11 minutes ago, MikeTO said: I can't speak for the future, but in case others are wondering, you can create vertical spreads only in documents with pages arranged vertically - you cannot mix spread types in one document. Nor can you combine vertical and horizontal folds in one spread which would be super cool but obviously a bit niche. That would be a fun UX to design though! I haven't seen any crashes with margin colour and I can't duplicate this with your document. But I'm on macOS so perhaps it's a windows issue. What about similar colour controls such as those in View > Guides? Ok...Thanks! ...I will have a look Quote Affinity Version 1 (10.6) Affinity Version 2.5.5 All (Designer | Photo | Publisher) Beta; 2.6.0.2831 OS:Windows 10 Pro 22H2 OS Build 19045.4412+ Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19056.1000.0 Rig:AMD FX 8350 and AMD Radeon (R9 380 Series) Settings Version 21.04.01 Radeon Settings Version 2020 20.1.03) + Wacom Intuous 4M with driver 6.3.41-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartRc Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 27 minutes ago, StuartRc said: Ok...Thanks! ...I will have a look It is ok in the guides. and oddly if you go to Document Setup and edit from this route it works fine. but if edit the spread>margins from the Pages panel it crashes! Quote Affinity Version 1 (10.6) Affinity Version 2.5.5 All (Designer | Photo | Publisher) Beta; 2.6.0.2831 OS:Windows 10 Pro 22H2 OS Build 19045.4412+ Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19056.1000.0 Rig:AMD FX 8350 and AMD Radeon (R9 380 Series) Settings Version 21.04.01 Radeon Settings Version 2020 20.1.03) + Wacom Intuous 4M with driver 6.3.41-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Add Master > Ambidextrous: Single has been changed to Ambidextrous which doesn't seem right to me - if we don't want to use the term Single, perhaps "Flexible" would be a simpler term? Or Spineless, just kidding. 🙂) Add Master > Spine Location: Why do masters need to have a spine location? I know it simplifies it creating a new spread based on a master without having to define the spine afterward, but it complicates the dialog for all of those users who will never use multi-page spreads. Also, there's no way to change the spine location for a master after creating it because Spread Properties is missing the spine location controls and you can't drag the pages within a master spread like you can with document spreads. This seems like an oversight. Apply Master to Spread: If you change the spine location for a document spread, re-applying the master will not change the spine location. This seems like a bug. In this example, the master and spread have the spine between pages 4-5. I then moved the spine between pages 3-4 which resulted in F - 2 pages for left of the spine and F- Right and F - Right for right of the spine, as expected. There is a ghost page to the left of page 2 which I didn't expect. I know the master had 3 pages to the left but the first and second master pages are applied, it's the third one (c) which is skipped, and the panel is showing me a ghost to the left where "c" is not located. Obviously it can't be shown where "c" is normally located but this is one more reason I'm not keen on showing ghosts. I then re-applied the master to the spread and now "a" is the ghost. This is not what I expected to happen, I thought it would be back to the starting point. Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Ghostbusting: Continuing the above example, I decided to go ghostbusting and get rid of that ghost to the left of page 2 as shown in the left screenshot. First I reset the spine location for the document spread as shown in the second screenshot. I'm not sure the master tooltip matches what I'm seeing - I lettered my master pages abcd and my document spread is now abbd - the master tooltip doesn't match this. Then I reapplied the master which got me back to abcd and the tooltip is Master F -4 pages. Great, but that ghost is still there. It shouldn't be there in the first place, but I also can't find any way to delete it. Even re-opening the document still has the ghost. test3.afpub Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) Crash while dragging master over document page: Sometimes it takes a couple of attempts but I crashed it several times in a row doing this. Affinity Publisher 2 Beta-2024-10-22-214835.ips Screen Recording 2024-10-22 at 9.48.14 PM.mov Master Properties: Three little issues: The spinner controls don't work in Master Properties, at least on macOS [EDIT: I'm unable to duplicate this now, it may be intermittent] If you edit any of the fields, the Source name changes from the master name to just "Source" And this last one isn't new in the beta, I noticed it a couple of weeks ago but thought I'd hold it to see if it was overcome by events. If you do something that would change the layer name (e.g., Master F -4 pages to Master F - 3 pages), the Layers panel will not refresh unless you do something to force it, like change pages and return. (For those unfamiliar with this somewhat obscure dialog, right-click the master layer in the Layers panel. The old Destination list has been replaced by Master Start Page, Page Count, and First Applied Page.) Edited Sunday at 09:06 PM by MikeTO edit in red Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 11 hours ago, MikeTO said: Page numbering: I expected page numbering to match the document's starting side even with spreads of odd numbers of pages. I expect that this multi page spreads will be used for book covers and booklets -- not inside a book. But, if so, an empty page must be added for the sake of the page numbering. Just imagine you put an image on the odd page on glossy paper and the next page should be blank. No other way. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Jon P Posted October 23 Staff Share Posted October 23 Hey @MikeTO, That's some great feedback, we'll go through this and respond back and log what we can, but for now: Quote Trailing ghosts: In the same example, there are two ghosts after page 13 that shouldn't be there. This spread was originally based on master B which had 3 sides but I changed it to master A and then cleared the master and the ghosts wouldn't go away. This is a repeatable issue. You can apply Master A and Confirm to Size & Count to get rid of the ghost pages, but you will need to delete the page it adds when confirming to the count of Master A. I think the ghost pages is nice even on simple 2 page spread facing documents, just to demonstrate there's another page and you can drag a page to that location if you'd like Quote Page flow issues: There seem to be some issues but I haven't nailed it down yet. In this example, page 2 should be a left page in a separate spread with a ghost to its right but instead it's stuck to page 1. I can't unstick it. Master A is a regular facing-page master. Feel free to attach the file even if you will struggle to reproduce getting it into the state it is in, but from a quick glance, are you certainly not able to drag the 2nd page to the left side of Page 1 to move it across? Edited for replies to your later replies: Viewing a spread Logged Selecting and Viewing a spread Logged Applying a master Logged Dragging pages out of spreads Unfortunately am unable to reproduce this, the page ends up where I would expect with reflow off, so may need an example document Change number of master sides We are aware of this and an improvement is logged. Max # of pages in a spread: You are correct, we intend to limit to 10 but it is possible to bypass in a few ways, which we are happy to allow if the user decides to do so Duplicate spread: Already logged Quote Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Jon P Posted October 23 Staff Share Posted October 23 Hey @Petar Petrenko Quote When creating PDF with crop marks from 3 page spread in Publisher, there are no crop marks for the spine as you can see from the attachments (compare with InDesign example). The InDesign file is the first one with text in Times New Roman: Thanks for this, I've reproduced and logged it Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 16 hours ago, MikeTO said: Page flow issues: There seem to be some issues but I haven't nailed it down yet. In this example, page 2 should be a left page in a separate spread with a ghost to its right but instead it's stuck to page 1. I can't unstick it. Master A is a regular facing-page master. Hi @Jon P and @MikeTO, The only way I can replicate the Page flow issue is when Spread Wrapping is set to Extend Spread... When Spread Wrapping is set to Flow then page 2 does appear as a left page in a separate spread... However, I've found one exception to that... If page 2 is initially added with Spread Wrapping set to Extend Spread but then page 2 is deleted, re-adding page 2 after page 1 with Spread Wrapping set to Flow does position page 2 after page 1 seemingly because the spread has previously been extended so page 2 is now occupying the ghost page... I'm unsure if this is the expected behaviour or would be considered a bug but there doesn't appear to be an obvious workaround other than setting Spread Wrapping to New Spread which you may not wish to do... @Jon P, could you confirm the expected behaviour in this scenario... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Jon P Posted October 23 Staff Share Posted October 23 Quote If page 2 is initially added with Spread Wrapping set to Extend Spread but then page 2 is deleted, re-adding page 2 after page 1 with Spread Wrapping set to Flow does position page 2 after page 1 seemingly because the spread has previously been extended so page 2 is now occupying the ghost page... This sounds like intentional behaviour to me, since when extending the spread that spreads model contained to be a certain amount of pages, even if you delete them, so adding then and flowing will flow into those ghost pages. Hangman 1 Quote Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dimage Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 A great help when laying out folded flyers 🙂 1) But it's pretty confusing as long as the "Page shift" -> "Change page order" option is active. I eventually turned it off. 2) I also had to deactivate the flow option in the layout page dialog for two pages. After a few attempts, I managed to create a 6-page DIN A4 leaflet with two layout areas. I didn't really understand why it eventually worked. Now you can see square brackets around layout pages. Intuitively, I would expect that I could immediately drag/drop any content page anywhere and dock it onto an existing content page to automatically create a "layout page". That feels a bit awkward at the moment, because the dragged page often doesn't end up where you expect it to. 3) The option to export all pages individually again when exporting to PDF (for screen view) is not always available. For this to happen, "Model" -> "Facing Pages" must be active in the document settings. Is there a reason for this behavior? 2024-10-23-beta-2.6-multipage-pdf-export-single-pages.mp4 Example for a single page PDF for screen reading: multipage-layout-to-single-page.pdf Quote Hardware: Windows 11 Pro (23H2, build 22631.4317, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1041.0), Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K, 32 Core@3.20 GHz, 128 GB RAM, NVIDIA RTX A4000 (16GB VRAM, driver 551.61), 1TB + 2TB SSD. 1 Display set to native 2560 x 1440. Software: Affinity v1 - Designer/Publisher/Photo (1.10.6.1665), Affinity v2 (universal license) - Designer/Publisher/Photo, v2 betas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Jon P Posted October 23 Staff Share Posted October 23 Quote I came across a crash while attempting to edit the margin colour on a new Master page (Spread/single page). I thought initially it was a product of the messy file while testing (which is attached below)..There is not much to it just a collection of different spreads. In Masters >[single page] 'marginColour' then Spread Properties>Margins. Try changing the colour and apply | close.. Publisher folds! Thanks, I've reproduced and logged this. It's Windows only and its changing margin colours on an ambidextrous master page Quote Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Mark Daniel Posted October 23 Staff Share Posted October 23 My advice is always to create a master with the spread page layout you want first then create whole spreads using that master. (Drag from the top of the panel to the bottom). That approach will generally give the cleanest results. MikeTO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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