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Hi,

I am lucky enough to have received one of the very early production Sony A7IV's. I have tried to open the ARW's in Affinity photo but it says the profile is not supported. Does anyone either know of a workaround or when Affinity will be updated to include the A7IV ARW format?

Many thanks

Posted
31 minutes ago, BryherPatch said:

Hi,

I am lucky enough to have received one of the very early production Sony A7IV's. I have tried to open the ARW's in Affinity photo but it says the profile is not supported. Does anyone either know of a workaround or when Affinity will be updated to include the A7IV ARW format?

Many thanks

Hi and welcome to the forum.

In case of cutting edge photo gear, you better use the vendor raw converter until Affinity apps (and other vendor & free apps) gained functionality to read these files. For best image quality  and compatibility, use tiff/16 as intermediate format.

another important choice is color format / profile.

Depending on final use case (web / print / others), you must choose between ROMMRGB, DCI-P3, sRGB, (mainly digital/web/photo paper), and AdobeRGB (mainly print).

Affinity normally won’t publish any roadmap / timelines.

Past experience (e.g. introduction of CR3 format) is anywhere between several month up to 1-2 years.

Swearing or complaints about this unfortunate situation didn’t show any effect in reducing the wait.

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Posted
33 minutes ago, BryherPatch said:

but it says the profile is not supported

Could you please upload one example RAW file?
 

On iPad and Mac, you could switch from Serif to Apple RAW engine. Sometimes Apple is faster to support new cameras.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BryherPatch said:

... I have tried to open the ARW's in Affinity photo but it says the profile is not supported. Does anyone either know of a workaround or when Affinity will be updated to include the A7IV ARW format? ...

The Sony A7IV is actually not yet supported, neither by libraw nor by Apple's RAW engine, that cam is still too fresh on the maket therefor. - You can always check the actual by Affinity (and it's libraw based RAW engine) supported cams here:

The latest by macOS Moneterey and ios 15 supported ones can also been seen, via the link in the above shown FAQ references:

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Posted
1 hour ago, NotMyFault said:

Sometimes Apple is faster to support new cameras.

The SerifLabs Raw engine largely depends on LibRaw, and the last LibRaw snapshot was 202101 (i.e. January of this year). Minor updates are generally for bug fixes, with no new cameras added. Major releases are only published once every eighteen months or so.

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Posted
1 hour ago, NotMyFault said:

For best image quality  and compatibility, use tiff/16 as intermediate format.

XnView MP (free for private or educational use) offers batch conversion from ARW to TIFF.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Alfred said:

XnView MP (free for private or educational use) offers batch conversion from ARW to TIFF.

XnView seems nice - but it always converts to 8bit/channel. Any way to get 16bit per color channel results?

I did not find any solution in settings or online help

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Alfred said:

XnView MP (free for private or educational use) offers batch conversion from ARW to TIFF.

But does it have support yet for this new camera? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Alfred said:

XnView MP (free for private or educational use) offers batch conversion from ARW to TIFF.

 

13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

But does it have support yet for this new camera? 


It seems to do the job, according to the user who asked about it and then supplied their own workaround:

 

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Posted

Where is the advantage of XnView over Sony’s own converter? (except wider support for 3rd party lenses, but it can be corrected via Affinity Photo). I would not accept 8bit color depth for RAW.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Alfred said:

It seems to do the job, according to the user who asked about it and then supplied their own workaround:

Well the question in turn is, does it really interpret the RAW data here or just extracts/uses the embedded JPG image from the RAW here then? - Since from the XnView MP changelogs I can see ...

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...
Changelog 0.99.0:

2134: [New] Qt 5.15.6
2126: [New] JPEGXL 0.5
2095: [New] libwebp 1.2.0
2077: [New] LibHeic updated, EXIF-XMP output
2076: [New] LibJPEGXL updated
2075: [New] Libraw instead of dcraw
2132: [New] Batch rename: ignore extension for # - viewtopic.php?t=42244
2128: [New] Set DPI - viewtopic.php?t=42134
2124: [New] Batch convert: Environment vars - viewtopic.php?t=42125
...

... and so that it also uses libraw nowadays.

 

1 hour ago, NotMyFault said:

Where is the advantage of XnView over Sony’s own converter?

There is probably no Advantage other then a quick turnaround preview & save handling, since Sony's own converter should be superior!

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Posted
5 hours ago, Alfred said:

The SerifLabs Raw engine largely depends on LibRaw, and the last LibRaw snapshot was 202101 (i.e. January of this year). 

The last snaphot was202110 and it added support for the A7R-IVA. I don't know if that helps the OP though.

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Posted
1 hour ago, IanSG said:

The last snaphot was202110 and it added support for the A7R-IVA. I don't know if that helps the OP though.

It will be supported probably in the next release versions, since FastRawViewer LLC which uses it's own LibRaw LLC, tells for it's actual FastRawViewer 2.0.2 Release Candidate ...

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Camera Support added

  • Fujifilm GFX50S II
  • Nikon Z fc
  • Sony ILCE-7RM3A (A7R-IIIA), ILCE-7RM4A (A7R-IVA)
  • Preliminary/limited support:
  • ILCE-7M4 (A7-IV)
  • Nikon Z9 (Standard compression only; for High Efficiency raw compression embedded JPEG is displayed)

 

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Posted
On 12/1/2021 at 2:22 PM, NotMyFault said:

Could you please upload one example RAW file?
 

On iPad and Mac, you could switch from Serif to Apple RAW engine. Sometimes Apple is faster to support new cameras.

Hi, I am a windows user but thanks for the Apple suggestion anyway. I have attached 3 x RAW files in the differing formats the camera supports. Not the most inspiring subject and ISO is at 8000 :(

Lossless Compression.ARW Uncompressed.ARW Compressed.ARW

Posted
22 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

Where is the advantage of XnView over Sony’s own converter? (except wider support for 3rd party lenses, but it can be corrected via Affinity Photo). I would not accept 8bit color depth for RAW.

Good suggestion. I have tried the Sony Imaging Edge Viewer and exported 16 bit TIFF. Seems to work fine although the file balloons from about 50Mb to 160Mb.

Posted

Using Mac with either the Apple engine or the Serif engine I could open both the Uncompressed and the Compressed files, but not the Lossless Compression file.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Using Mac with either the Apple engine or the Serif engine I could open both the Uncompressed and the Compressed files, but not the Lossless Compression file.

I can also, except for the Lossless Compression file, open the other two with Affinity Photo on Windows 10.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Komatös said:

I can also, except for the Lossless Compression file, open the other two with Affinity Photo on Windows 10.

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Doh!! I had selected the Lossless compression and hadn't thought to test the other 2 formats!! I confirm they also work for me on Win 11. Thanks for your help 👍 That is a fairly reasonable workaround until the lossless feature works.

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Any update on this? Are the A7IV .ARW files supported yet? Thinking about buying this camera myself, but may wait if A7IV raw photos are not supported yet. 

Thanks!

Posted
1 hour ago, jpizzle said:

Any update on this? Are the A7IV .ARW files supported yet? Thinking about buying this camera myself, but may wait if A7IV raw photos are not supported yet. 

Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums.

The A7IV camera is on the supported cameras list for the desktop applications. From that, and what's said above, it should work as long as you don't try to use Lossless Compression in your camera settings.

(Note: the A7R IV is a different camera model, not yet on the list, and perhaps not fully supported.)

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Posted

Only as a side note.
The current beta (....1282) can also open the lossless file.

Cheers

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  • 2 months later...
Posted
On 1/26/2022 at 2:34 PM, Gnobelix said:

open the lossless file

is it normal that the image shown in develop is not cropped? I am asking this because when I open a `compressed` file the image is already cropped and it matches the .jpeg, but when I open the `lossless` there is some black edges and I need to zoom to about 120% to match the jpeg.

is it always this away or is it lens dependent? (I was using the kit lens) 

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