MikeTO Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 @CLC Fixed and I added your additional machine. I assumed it was the 10-core CPU based on the scores. SrPx, mykee, iuli and 2 others 3 2 Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selenita Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Excellent comment. Although I am not an expert on the subject, your article is easy to follow, and it is very good for me to know it since I am launching an Ipad pro with the M1 chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Sonny Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 GTX 1660ti Dual OC, AMD Ryzen 7 2700x, 32GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 I'm going to stop updating this table soon because I think there's enough data now to help inform purchase decisions for new computers or GPUs but I'll keep doing it until there's an M1 Ultra benchmark to add. iuli, Sonny Sonny, User_783649 and 1 other 4 Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Royk said: Thank you for sharing. I am trying to learn what the scores in vector means. Like.. the score is 523, but what does this tell us? How can i translate this to an (complex) vector illustration. Any thoughts? @Royk Only Serif knows for sure but I believe they've said that the Affinity apps rely on the GPU for rendering the canvas which I assume is the most complicated part. Take my advice with a grain of salt, I have no knowledge of how the programs work. My guess is that since the raster (GPU) scores are important for rendering the screen then the vector (CPU) scores must be important for everything that happens before the pixels are rendered. For example, inserting a new line of text in a book with hundreds of pages might cause the text on every page to shift and to have to be re-wrapped around images on every page. In a photo editor, applying complex filters might depend on the CPU, too. In an illustrator program, the CPU might be important for things like transforming thousands of shapes at once. But if I experience lag, is it because of the stuff that happens before the screen is rendered or while it's being rendered? I don't know. The benchmarks will help you decide how much investing in your GPU will improve your GPU score but they won't tell you whether that will make any difference to the lag you're experiencing. Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royk Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 4:35 PM, MikeTO said: @Royk Only Serif knows for sure but I believe they've said that the Affinity apps rely on the GPU for rendering the canvas which I assume is the most complicated part. Take my advice with a grain of salt, I have no knowledge of how the programs work. My guess is that since the raster (GPU) scores are important for rendering the screen then the vector (CPU) scores must be important for everything that happens before the pixels are rendered. For example, inserting a new line of text in a book with hundreds of pages might cause the text on every page to shift and to have to be re-wrapped around images on every page. In a photo editor, applying complex filters might depend on the CPU, too. In an illustrator program, the CPU might be important for things like transforming thousands of shapes at once. But if I experience lag, is it because of the stuff that happens before the screen is rendered or while it's being rendered? I don't know. The benchmarks will help you decide how much investing in your GPU will improve your GPU score but they won't tell you whether that will make any difference to the lag you're experiencing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. From what i know, vectors can be seen /compared as 3D objects, only in a 2D space. A flowting point in a 2D world. They are closer related to lets say....Blender, than a Photo (pixel) editor. The precision of a flowting point is something that takes cpu calculation resources. ad extra information like fil, outline, transparancy, etc.. I wish there was a dedicated Affinity Designer benchmark iuli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Sonny Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 1:25 AM, Royk said: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. From what i know, vectors can be seen /compared as 3D objects, only in a 2D space. A flowting point in a 2D world. They are closer related to lets say....Blender, than a Photo (pixel) editor. The precision of a flowting point is something that takes cpu calculation resources. ad extra information like fil, outline, transparancy, etc.. I wish there was a dedicated Affinity Designer benchmark All Affinity products uses the same core then I think AD benchmark would be the same (or just slightly different). I hope Affinity performance would be better as it runs on Mac system. My old Macbook pro can even perform a surprising smoothly performance lol Affinity is just insane on Mac. Royk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOQ-Design Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Hi @MikeTO For reference here's a couple of benchmarks to add into the mix from Affinity Photo on my MacBook Pro - macOS Monterey 12.3 - 15" 2017 - 2.9 Ghz i7 - 16GB ram - Radeon Pro 560 4GB. Interesting for me to see how much faster the new M1 processors are from a 5 year old spec. That'll be 3-4 times faster in benchmarks. MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 One last version with several updates. Still no M1 Ultra benchmark. Pandovski 1 Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandovski Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thank you for the updates, Mike. Truly appreciate your effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_783649 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 5:08 PM, MikeTO said: Still no M1 Ultra benchmark. Yep. It would be really great to see all numbers for that beast. In this AppleInsider article I found the following information: Quote Affinity Photo now has its own benchmark that tests vector performance on the CPU and raster performance, taxing both the CPU and GPU. We looked primarily at the combined scores for CPU and the GPU. The M1 Max scored a 947 for the CPU and a 22,537 for the GPU. The M1 Ultra came in with a 1,879 for the CPU and a 33,668 on the GPU. MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGS Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 There is a M1 Ultra and Max Benchmark on Youtube. Look at 4 minutes and have fun. https://youtu.be/8grGacOxzr4 M1 Ultra Data Vector Single CPU 531 Vector Multi CPU 3569 Raster Multi CPU 1801 Raster Single GPU 43663 Combined Multi CPU 1879 Combined Single GPU 33668 User_783649 and MikeTO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Thanks for pointing out the AppleInsider review Alex and SGS! Okay, here's the final version of this table - I think there's enough data now to make comparisons if you're in the market for new hardware. The green shading shows top scores in the same ballpark. Edited April 3, 2022 by MikeTO Fixed a typo in the chart User_783649 1 Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Thanks for this data. Does nobody have scores from a 64-core M1 Ultra or an 12900KS and RTX3090? I just wanted to see if this is what Apple was talking about in it's (now infamous) Keynote graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele92 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Hi here the scores with - Mac Studio, M1 max, 32 cores GPU - Macbook air M1, 8 cores GPU MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 i5 10600 (3.3 GHz), 16 GB RAM, GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS OC MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Does the support of unified architecture also benefit AMD APUs in combined scores as well? Does anyone have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jussi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 HP Zbook Studio 15 G8 Intel i9 11950H@2600GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia RTX 3080 16GB + Intel UHD MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandovski Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Windows 11 Pro, i7-10700K, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3060 12GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcrobaticMelon Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Another Windows machine chipping in. CPU: Intel Core i7-12700H RAM: 16GB DDR5 (4800MT/s) GPU: Nvidia RTX 3060 Mobile (100W+20W boost) + Intel Iris XE (Alder Lake-P GT2, 96 EUs) OS: Windows 11 Pro, Hyper-V+HVCI enabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 Updated table Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBCreative Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 For what it's worth, and because I just discovered this benchmarking ability... Here's my 16" MBP M1-Max: 32-core GPU, 64GB RAM, 10-core CPU. MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driss Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Hey Everyone, Macbook Pro 16" M1 Pro (10c / 16c) 32GB RAM MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/17/2022 at 2:45 AM, MikeTO said: Updated table Still no sign of a 64-core Ultra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 OK, I found this screenshot from a MaxTech review at 12:09 here https://youtu.be/HOomaPcmgoM They graphed the combined score only(!) but I'm seeing 53432 for the 64-core M1 Ultra to take the lead. MikeTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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