Sarper Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: I believe I've solved the problem with input lag when using Windows Ink. I've put in a fix now, which should be available in the next customer beta. Great news. Is it possible to add WinTab implementation back and give the users ability to switch between them? hashms0a, alex200800, Graphite Addict and 2 others 5 Quote
Aongus Collins Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sarper said: Great news. Is it possible to add WinTab implementation back and give the users ability to switch between them? Yes, please! hashms0a and alex200800 2 Quote
alex200800 Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sarper said: Great news. Is it possible to add WinTab implementation back and give the users ability to switch between them? Yeah I'd like to see this added back in too. It's always good to have options, especially on windows where there are so many different hardware and software configurations. Quote
Arceom Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I've tried all day to find a fix for these problem too, it started with the 1.8 update both for Photo and Designer (havent tried Publisher). Already tried: Changing "Pen Setting" in windows 10 Changing "Pen and Touch" in control panel Enable and disable Windows Ink in the Wacom Tablet Properties Panel. No matter what I did, I always presented a combination of: Annoying flick circles with right click, no pen pressure, right click not working for straight nodes in pen tool; or alt+L-click+R-click for brush size not working. Is it possible to rollback to 1.7.3 while this is fixed? Quote
cd-photography Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 hello same issu with me since the last upgrade. DigitalVisuals 1 Quote
Staff Chris B Posted March 3, 2020 Staff Posted March 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Arceom said: I've tried all day to find a fix for these problem too, it started with the 1.8 update both for Photo and Designer (havent tried Publisher). Already tried: Changing "Pen Setting" in windows 10 Changing "Pen and Touch" in control panel Enable and disable Windows Ink in the Wacom Tablet Properties Panel. No matter what I did, I always presented a combination of: Annoying flick circles with right click, no pen pressure, right click not working for straight nodes in pen tool; or alt+L-click+R-click for brush size not working. Is it possible to rollback to 1.7.3 while this is fixed? If you are using the Affinity Store version, you can downgrade using this link:https://store.serif.com/en-gb/update/windows/photo/1/ s10b and Ted Pikul 2 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Ted Pikul Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 Thanks, I will downgrade for now until the new beta version is here. Quote
Sarper Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 For people who will downgrade, make sure you backup your custom brushes and other data. Downgrading required uninstalling the 1.8 version on my part and as a result I've lost my brushes. The studio layout is not effected. Arceom, s10b and hashms0a 3 Quote
Sarper Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 WinTab is added back as an option in 1.8.2, thank you Serif! Mrty76, Mark Ingram and Chris B 1 2 Quote
Frozen Death Knight Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 It's good that WinTab is an option now, but I hope fixing Windows Ink so it finally works as intended remains a high priority. Just feels bad when you use it and all mouse shortcuts don't work at all. Can't even add to selection with the Lasso tool using R click with Windows Ink because of the bugs. Chris B 1 Quote
chessboard Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Thank you, Affinity-Team for listening to your customers und bringing the option to decide WinTab oder Windows Ink! Now the new 1.8-Versions work great for me. Thumbs up! Mark Ingram 1 Quote
Mark Ingram Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Frozen Death Knight said: It's good that WinTab is an option now, but I hope fixing Windows Ink so it finally works as intended remains a high priority. Just feels bad when you use it and all mouse shortcuts don't work at all. Can't even add to selection with the Lasso tool using R click with Windows Ink because of the bugs. We will continue to work on Windows Ink support, as that is the only way to deliver high precision input which we think is valuable to a lot of customers. PaulAffinity, Chris B, Frozen Death Knight and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Michał Kulesza Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: We will continue to work on Windows Ink support, as that is the only way to deliver high precision input which we think is valuable to a lot of customers. Thank You for the option to disable Windows Ink. I have tested both inputs (enabling or disabling both Windows Ink in Affinity Photo and Wacom tablet properties window) and have not noticed any difference in quality of drawing. But that may be because of my hardware (4770k@4,3GHz, 16GB DDR3, GTX1080)... For me, disabling Windows Ink is beneficial because of several drawbacks (key shortcuts, system "pen is now touch" behavior and others). Could You indicate any reasons why Windows Ink is favourable as a tablet interface in a long run? Are there any benefits with newer hardware (than mine) or do I miss something while testing? Quote
Mark Ingram Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Michał Kulesza said: Could You indicate any reasons why Windows Ink is favourable as a tablet interface in a long run? Are there any benefits with newer hardware (than mine) or do I miss something while testing? We only use the pressure data from WinTab, not the positional data (there's technical reasons why it's not easy to use the positional data). So it means that whilst you receive accurate pressure data, the positional data is only as accurate as a mouse would be (despite being vastly higher resolution). With Windows Ink we are able to receive high precision positional data from Windows, which means that that you can draw accurately at a sub-pixel level. In reality this shouldn't make too much difference unless you're actually drawing on a screen (e.g. Surface Pro devices, and perhaps Wacom Cintiq too). In reality most users will never notice the difference, it's just that from a technical point of view, the data from Windows Ink is better. Chris B, PaulAffinity and Frozen Death Knight 3 Quote
Frozen Death Knight Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: We will continue to work on Windows Ink support, as that is the only way to deliver high precision input which we think is valuable to a lot of customers. Thank you for the reassurance! Makes me very optimistic about the future. : ) Mark Ingram 1 Quote
Ladmen Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Ink Tab is enabled or disabled, shortcuts to change size of the brush still doesn't work on my cintiq pro 24 ( last version it worked was 1.7) Quote
Sarper Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ladmen said: Ink Tab is enabled or disabled, shortcuts to change size of the brush still doesn't work on my cintiq pro 24 ( last version it worked was 1.7) Did you disable Windows Ink in both Wacom Preferences and in Affinity preferences? Quote
Ladmen Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Sarper said: Did you disable Windows Ink in both Wacom Preferences and in Affinity preferences? I think I have done it. But i don't see in Wacom preferences directly - option to do anything with Windows Ink. I turned off WIndows ink in Windows settings instead and Affinity preferences. It didn't help. Quote
Sarper Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ladmen said: I think I have done it. But i don't see in Wacom preferences directly - option to do anything with Windows Ink. I turned off WIndows ink in Windows settings instead and Affinity preferences. It didn't help. It should be under "Calibrate" or "Mapping" tab PaulAffinity and Ladmen 2 Quote
Ladmen Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 oh Man you are the best ! it is finally works, Thank you !!! Quote
Ted Pikul Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Thank you for your quick fixes Affinity team. Just installed the latest version again, working fine! Very much appreciated! PaulAffinity 1 Quote
kacperkaluzynski Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 I turn off Windows Ink in Wacom and Affinity properties and shortkeys starts to work but pen pressure is still not working. Quote
kacperkaluzynski Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 I reinstall Wacom drivers and everything working! Quote
Ted Pikul Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 So...guess I was wrong. I installed 1.8.3. With Windows ink checked/on in my Wacom settings I CAN zoom in via ALT+magnifying glass+wacom pen. But I CAN'T zoom out using ALT+magnifying glass+wacom pen. I CAN zoom out if I ALT+magnifying glass+mouseclick. If I uncheck Windows-ink in the settings I can't draw anymore. (only some straight lines) Quote
Ladmen Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 In this case, setting buttons in my pen as a modifiers ( Alt+Right cilck, or alt + ctr) and later switching off windows ink in Wacom settings helped me - I can again resize brushes. But there is still a lot of problems with painting in Affinity Photo, when you choose one of your brushes is temporairly highlighted in brush panel - then when you do things in your file suddenly it is no longer highlighted ( this is real problem if you have 30 brushes for example and don't know which you have used).. you can't rearange them also, it is such a pain in the ars still. Also when I am setting the brushes to react on rotation of art brush it sometimes stuck, or not working. All this little things making using AP for purely painting - diffucult, and I just swithed back to Corel Painter for now. I hope in the future you will tweak the painitng section that artist could use it for reall painting also.In this case, setting buttons in my pen as a modifiers ( Alt+Right cilck, or alt + ctr) and later switching off windows ink in Wacom settings helped me - I can again resize brushes. But there is still a lot of problems with painting in Affinity Photo, when you choose one of your brushes is temporairly highlighted in brush panel - then when you do things in your file suddenly it is no longer highlighted ( this is real problem if you have 30 brushes for example and don't know which you have used).. you can't rearange them also, it is such a pain in the ars still. Also when I am setting the brushes to react on rotation of art brush it sometimes stuck, or not working. Making straight lines should be easier also, with some shortcut. All this little things making using AP for purely painting - diffucult, and I just swithed back to Corel Painter for now. I hope in the future you will tweak the painitng section that artist could use it for reall painting also. Quote
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