Mrty76 Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 Hello I have problem while using Wacom tablets (Intuos 5 and Intuos M) with both Photo and Designer 1.8.0.585. When Windows Ink is enabled, I can't change brush size, spacing, rotation using ALT-LMB-RMB-drag not to mention bubbles, ripples and Alt, Ctrl, Shift labels appearing under cursor. When disabled - no pressure sensitivity. Please help. (Windows 10, Lenovo Y70) chessboard, baronowski, hashms0a and 5 others 7 1 Quote
baronowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Why there is no native support for pen pressure anymore ? I dont like Windows Ink because is very laggy. I've allways disable this feature in wacom settings. Everything works fine in 1.7.3 Arceom, hashms0a, chessboard and 1 other 4 Quote
chessboard Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 9 hours ago, baronowski said: Why there is no native support for pen pressure anymore ? I dont like Windows Ink because is very laggy. I've allways disable this feature in wacom settings. Everything works fine in 1.7.3 Hello, I would second this. The Wacom-driver worked absolutely fine on my Cintiq in all Pre-1.8 versions. I can't see any advantage to switch to Windows Ink for Wacom Users. Instead I have to deal with poping up screen keyboard and hold&rigthclick-circles now, which is quite anoying. I understand that there are improvements for Windows Ink users, while my second computer is a Surface Book, which works fine so far. But on my desktop with Wacom Cintiq there is no need for using Windows Ink. It would be nice, if there would be a switch-Button in the Affintiy apps for the user to decide if he/she would like to use Windows Ink. Clip Studio Paint does it this way for example. Cheers, chessboard Quote
Ron P. Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Add me to this list. I can not change the brush size using the shortcut I've always used with my Wacom Intuos 3, if I have Windows Ink enabled. Quote Affinity Photo 2.5..; Affinity Designer 2.5..; Affinity Publisher 2.5..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD
Michał Kulesza Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Add me to the list also. Since Affinity 1.8 Wacom pressure works only with Windows Ink enabled. This causes me a lot of problems (circles, Alt-Ctrl-Shift buttons, laggy, can not highlight text in Chrome-based browsers because input is interpreted as touch...). Quote
Staff Chris B Posted February 27, 2020 Staff Posted February 27, 2020 Windows Ink does indeed break the alt+right-click+left-click resize shortcut and this is currently being discussed. Windows Ink is now required to get pen pressure. I will be passing the feedback to the developers. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
hashms0a Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 I really like to switch to Affinity as drawing/painting applications, but the problems that I can't work with my Wacom tablets as drawing in Affinity AD/AP. There is a slight lag when I start to draw even with the new version. I tried it on another PC and still the problem exist. Quote
alex200800 Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Glad this has already brought up and the devs are aware. Just thought I would add that I am having the same problems with my Huion display tablet since upating to version 1.8. Pen pressure only works with windows ink enabled, windows ink is laggy and jerky, and a lot of my shortcuts are also broken with windows ink enabled. Quote
Fadra Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Since updating to 1.8, I can not use my Wacom pen and then the mouse a few seconds later. When I use the pen, affinity completely ignores any clicks from my mouse. I would like to roll back to the previous version, but when I do try to roll back the installation fails. Edited February 27, 2020 by Fadra Quote
Frozen Death Knight Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 I reported this to the devs already in December last year during the Beta period. I am a bit surprised that 1.8 was released before fixing the Windows Ink bugs, since they are a serious hindrance to all tablet users on Windows. I would also like to mention that using alt+R click+L click with your mouse is not an option either. There is currently a bug that freezes all Affinity products when using the previously mentioned command. That and the issue of panning your canvas sometimes break so you can't move around in your project make 1.8 quite a hassle to work with at times. Quote
Mark Ingram Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 Previously, using WinTab, the points would not have been high precision, now using Windows Ink, the points are high precision, so you should get better brushing results. We're aware there are some issues with shortcuts which we're actively working on. Frozen Death Knight 1 Quote
PaulAffinity Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 Bizarrely I use an OLD Wacom Bamboo touch and it works fine on 1.8 and all 1.7 versions.... P Quote
AlainP Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 I also use a Wacom Bamboo Touch and it works well, but "Alt-Right click" to change size and hardness does not work anymore. PaulAffinity 1 Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" - Mac mini M2-Pro - 16 gb
Sarper Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 For me it worked just great in the previous versions with WinTab, why would you force users to switch to Windows Ink, it's terrible. The modifier keys show below cursor even though that option is disabled at OS level. As well as right click "ring". Alt+Right+Left click drag doesn't work. At least make it optional. I'll go back to 1.7.3 🤦♂️ baronowski 1 Quote
PaulAffinity Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 10 hours ago, AlainP said: I also use a Wacom Bamboo Touch and it works well, but "Alt-Right click" to change size and hardness does not work anymore. AlainP mine still works. I have it assigned to the pen 'top' button. L-R is size and Up-Down is hardness. I have NOT enabled windows ink. HTH. Quote
AlainP Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 5 hours ago, PaulAffinity said: AlainP mine still works. I have it assigned to the pen 'top' button. L-R is size and Up-Down is hardness. I have NOT enabled windows ink. HTH. If I don't enable Windows Ink Right click works for changing size and hardness, but then I loose pressure sensitivity. PaulAffinity 1 Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" - Mac mini M2-Pro - 16 gb
Aongus Collins Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 I've posted my opinion on the Windows Ink issues in the Designer 1.8 beta forum, but it applies as much to the final Photo release. Using a Wacom tablet (Intuos 5 M or Cintiq 22) with Windows Ink is a horrible experience. That's why Clip Studio, Krita, Rebelle, Blender, Cinema 4D and other animation/graphics software either allow WinTab or have incorporated workarounds. Of course there are good reasons for Serif to make the change. But I can't get work done in 1.8X because of the current Ink issues. I have been using Designer since the first beta on the Mac. My workaround is to disable pressure sensitivity in Affinity, and use other software for brush work, then import into Affinity for final polishing, colour management, typography and export to online or print formats. alex200800 1 Quote
AlainP Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Yes, it's a pain in the .... you know where... but I'm confident that it will be fixed in a not so far release. Aongus Collins 1 Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" - Mac mini M2-Pro - 16 gb
Graphite Addict Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 This explains a frustrating last hour or so. Similar grief with a Huion pen tablet. Disable Windows Ink option ASAP please. I guess I'll have to roll back to 1.7 which will mean I have to lose the vastly superior expand stroke in Affinity Designer 1.8. Can I run both versions? Quote
s10b Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 +1 here... And I thought it was only me... So wecan hope for fix. It's just a few days since I changed to Affinity and I was really frustrated about this bug and the fact that because of that I had to use PS again... 😫 Quote
chessboard Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 3:08 PM, Michał Kamil Kulesza said: Add me to the list also. Since Affinity 1.8 Wacom pressure works only with Windows Ink enabled. This causes me a lot of problems (circles, Alt-Ctrl-Shift buttons, laggy, can not highlight text in Chrome-based browsers because input is interpreted as touch...). I get a noticable lag (about 1/2 sec estimated) with each pen-click, too. Not just when drawing, but also all over the UI, even in the menus. Quite anoying esp. when working with shapes and lines. I can't remember this in version 1.7. While I had no problems with the old method in pre-1.8-versions I would really appreciate to have the choice between the old method an Windows Ink. baronowski and Michał Kulesza 2 Quote
Michał Kulesza Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Aongus Collins said: Of course there are good reasons for Serif to make the change What are those reasons to move to Windows Ink? My other questions are: 2. is the move to Windows Ink permanent? 3. is it possible to make it optional? 4. if necessary, is there a way to make it turned-on while Affinity application is in focus? Best, if someone from Serif answers these. Quote
carl123 Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Michał Kamil Kulesza said: Best, if someone from Serif answers these. Damn, I knew the answers to all those questions! walt.farrell and Move Along People 2 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Ted Pikul Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 Since the update : when windows ink disabled in the wacom (intuos pro) settings (like it was pre 1.8.0.585) : Drawing is good, but I can't use the eraser on the back of my pro pen 2. when windows ink is enabled in the wacom settings: Drawing is lagging. The lines appear way to late. But I can use the eraser on my pen. hashms0a 1 Quote
Mark Ingram Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 I believe I've solved the problem with input lag when using Windows Ink. I've put in a fix now, which should be available in the next customer beta. baronowski, Patrick Connor, Frozen Death Knight and 5 others 8 Quote
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