IndigoMoon Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hi Mark, regarding the developing performance with a 22.3 MP .CR2 of a Canon 5D M3 Load time: #135 --> 7.5 secs first time, later then 6.5 secs #240 --> 4.5 secs first time, later then 3 secs Developing time without adjustments (default settings): #135 --> 4 secs all the time #240 --> 13 sec all the time and I get a "washed" out image (btw. it's 1.5 seconds faster then the previous betas) If you need a sample file, please let me know... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Thanks @IndigoMoon, thanks for the numbers! Have you tried Tone Mapping yet? The algorithm for Develop has been changed in 1.7, so the comparison to 1.6 isn't a like-for-like comparison (wrt the performance change in this build). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoMoon Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 @Mark Ingram No, I didn't. Are you talking about the Tone Mapping Persona or the HDR Merge? I can try if you like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, IndigoMoon said: @Mark Ingram No, I didn't. Are you talking about the Tone Mapping Persona or the HDR Merge? I can try if you like... Yep, pressing the Tone Mapping Persona button (on my very high spec desktop machine it was taking 60 seconds on the progress bar dialog, and it's now down to 5 seconds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoMoon Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: pressing the Tone Mapping Persona button... Ok, I've done a test by using the previous developed .CR2 file: #135 --> 31 secs first time, all additional attempts by canceling the result and trying it again increases the time by a few seconds (35, 37, 39, 43 seconds etc.) #240 --> 23 secs first time, then about 45 seconds for the second try after canceling and finally it ended up with a app crash, app freeze or a complete Windows 10 crash with the third attempt. I've tried it a few times, always with the same result. I assume something with the memory usage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVDB Photography Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: on my very high spec desktop machine Not everyone owns such a HIGH SPEC machine ! 1.7.0.240Startup : 29 sec RAW Open : .CR2 (18.10 MP) 21 sec - second time: 16 sec Develop (without making changes) : 50 sec and still washed-out Tone mapping Persona Startup : 10 min 17 sec !!!!! APPLY (with minor changes) : 25 sec Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Hi @HVDB Photography, what are the times in the previous beta or the times in 1.6 for your machine? As I mentioned in the release notes for 1.7.0.240, the performance improvements should scale between high spec and low spec machines. I was clarifying my "60 seconds" timing with the caveat that my machine is very fast anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 hours ago, IndigoMoon said: #240 --> 23 secs first time, then about 45 seconds for the second try after canceling and finally it ended up with a app crash, app freeze or a complete Windows 10 crash with the third attempt. I've tried it a few times, always with the same result. I assume something with the memory usage... What was the memory usage? Have you enabled the crash identifier in Preferences | Misc? If so I can lookup your crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVDB Photography Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Ingram said: Hi @HVDB Photography, what are the times in the previous beta or the times in 1.6 for your machine? As I mentioned in the release notes for 1.7.0.240, the performance improvements should scale between high spec and low spec machines. I was clarifying my "60 seconds" timing with the caveat that my machine is very fast anyway. Here they are .... 1.6.5.123 Startup : 29 sec RAW Open : .CR2 (18.10 MP) 25 sec - second time: 25 sec Develop (without making changes) : 27 sec Tone mapping Persona Startup : 1 min 27 sec = A tremendous difference !!!!!!!!! APPLY (with minor changes) : 19 sec Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoMoon Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: Have you enabled the crash identifier in Preferences | Misc? Sure, it was enabled. Where to find these reports? Regarding the memory usage, it's just an assumption, because of the time accumulation after each try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 20MP image, pressing Tone Map Persona icon: 1.6.5.135: 22 seconds 1.7.0.231: 24 seconds 1.7.0.240: 7 seconds I'm on Windows 10. @IndigoMoon and @HVDB Photography, what version of Windows are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, IndigoMoon said: Sure, it was enabled. Where to find these reports? Regarding the memory usage, it's just an assumption, because of the time accumulation after each try. A copy of the reports are on your HDD, but I can search for them on our server. I'm assuming your email address (in Preferences) is the same as here on the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoMoon Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Yep, it's the same email address. I'm on Windows 10 Home, 1803, i7-3770 and 16 GB. Mark Ingram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVDB Photography Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: what version of Windows are you using? It's all in my signature below ... Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, HVDB Photography said: It's all in my signature below ... Your signature is empty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, HVDB Photography said: It's all in my signature below ... 6 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: Your signature is empty... Not for me! Quote Affinity Photo 1.6.5.123 Windows 10 / 64 bit processor - AMD A4-5000 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 1.50GHz - RAM 8,00 GB Calibrated Monitor (Datacolor Spyder5 Pro) https://www.youtube.com/c/HubertVandenBorre Mark Ingram 1 Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 We think the application is holding onto more memory than it should, which is causing Windows to page (i.e. write the contents of your memory) to disk. That would explain the kinds of slowdown you're seeing. Any chance you can tell me memory usage after developing, or entering tone map persona etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I've now confirmed the bug, and fixed it, and I'll try to get a new build out over the weekend. I've also fixed the issue with Develop converting images to a linear colour profile. HVDB Photography, adirusf, Uwe367 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVDB Photography Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 17 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: We think the application is holding onto more memory than it should, which is causing Windows to page That confirms what I had in mind for a long time. The video (at double speed) shows that once the RAW development has been executed, the memory is not released. Although, the extremely long time span at the start of Tone Mapping Persona I could no longer simulate! It now takes an average of just over 3 minutes each time before TMPersona is up and running. I also have to add that I've done a cold reboot and disabled the Superfetch service beforehand. Develop Persona Project.mp4 Affinity Photo 2.3.1 Laptop MSI Prestige PS42 Windows 11 Home 23H2 (Build 22631.3007) - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 2.00 GHz - RAM 16,0 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiDon Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Yes it seems as though the Tone Mapping Persona is the real culprit: Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB PC2 HP Pavilion - Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GBiPad (8th Gen) 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlp Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 There are different versions of Windows 10. Microsoft upgrades Windows 10 twice a year, one in spring and one in fall. The latest version is 1809 (stands for 2018 and September). I think it would help to add this to the signature too. Affinity Photo 2.0.4 | Affinity Designer 1.10.5.1342 | Affinity Publisher 1.10.5.1342 Windows 10 Pro 22H2 64bit | Intel Core i7 8750H @ 2.2 GHz | Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 (Studio Driver) | Intel UHD Graphics 630 | 16 GB Dual Channel DDR4 https://www.flickr.com/photos/owlp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Tested the Tone Mapping with the 240 Beta last night just before dinner. It hung going into the Tone Mapping Persona at roughly 40%, not quite half way. I left it, ate dinner and returned about 40 minutes later. It had not progressed, and in fact almost caused my entire system to crash, couldn't bring up Task Manager. I did finally manage to force close Photo. I still had to reboot my machine to get it to working smoothly again. This morning, I noticed just 4 minutes after Mark posted the 243 Beta link. Download/Installed, and tried Tone Mapping first, using the same CR2 RAW file as I used last night. WOW what a difference. 12 secs to load into Tone Mapping. Done a few adjustments, then hit develop and 3 secs to develop and back to working in Photo Persona. Good Work @Mark Ingram Mark Ingram 1 Affinity Photo 2.5..; Affinity Designer 2.5..; Affinity Publisher 2.5..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiDon Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 OK! Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB PC2 HP Pavilion - Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GBiPad (8th Gen) 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwe367 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Thanks a lot @Mark Ingram RAW Development works in .243 much faster now and the correct profile is set after developing in Photo Persona. Very well done Mark Ingram 1 Have a nice day. Ich wünsche einen schönen Tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoMoon Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Thanks Mark, well done! Pressing the Tone Mapping Icon improves now on my machine to 19 seconds and no crashes anymore repeating the procedure. But #243 still takes longer for developing, so I did some investigation... Noise Reduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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