Renzatic Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonSquirrel said: Evidence of the old glazzies. Go to any coffee shop and see for yourself what people are using. I have never seen anyone using Linux in a coffee shop. I have seen innumerable Macs and Windows users. Never once, not even one, Linux user. That's probably cuz they were all posers. Bez Bezson and Snapseed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyWS Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonSquirrel said: Evidence of the old glazzies. Go to any coffee shop and see for yourself what people are using. I have never seen anyone using Linux in a coffee shop. I have seen innumerable Macs and Windows users. Never once, not even one, Linux user. Linux people have forever pretended that their desktop market share is bigger than it actually is. Theoretical, anecdotal and hearsay in one post, good job. Why would it matter who uses what in a coffee shop? By your same logic, go into a studio and see what people are using. I have never seen anyone using Affinity Photo in a studio. I have seen innumerable Photoshop users. Never once, not even one, Affinity Photo user. See how stupid that argument is? By your own logic you shouldn't bother with Affinity photo. More people at my studio use Linux over Windows than they do Affinity Photo over Photoshop. What does that tell you? Absolutely nothing because it's anecdotal and not an average userbase. Stop trolling in here. Solarius, Snapseed and Bez Bezson 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyWS Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said: It means what I have seen. I have never seen a single Linux user in a coffee shop. Go to 10 coffee shops and see what people are using for their laptop OS. I would expect to see 1 or 2 Linux users if the statistics that Linux people quote are correct. http://www.mswhs.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/linux-cafe.jpg Bez Bezson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmanueL-AT Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said: It means what I have seen. I have never seen a single Linux user in a coffee shop. Go to 10 coffee shops and see what people are using for their laptop OS. I would expect to see 1 or 2 Linux users if the statistics that Linux people quote are correct. You expect 1 or 2 linux users in a coffee shop? So, since your coffee shop experience is a mathematical function of the number of Linux users out there, and considering the fact that you haven't seen one, this conversely and inevitably means that there is not one single Linux user anywhere in the world. --> Your mathematics doesn't seem very convincing to me. Snapseed and Bez Bezson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderings Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Do the numbers for Linux take into account all those devices that run a version of Linux but are not really laptops or desktops? Amazon echo devices running a version of Linux, would these be counted to bring up the total numbers or are they able to differentiate? If not then I have 7 Linux devices running in my house daily PaoloT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuernseyMan Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 As a Linux user I can confirm that we don't get out much 😃 Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzatic Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 hours ago, LondonSquirrel said: No. Your argument is a fallacy. I have never said there are no Linux users. I have said that I have never seen a Linux user in a coffee shop. As I go to a coffee shop > 3 times a week I would expect by now to see at least 1. Yeah, and I'm telling you they're all POSERS! Like those people who drop $3 grand on a Macbook Pro, and only use it to hit up Facebook and Instagram. FOR SHAME! Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyWS Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 8 hours ago, wonderings said: Do the numbers for Linux take into account all those devices that run a version of Linux but are not really laptops or desktops? Amazon echo devices running a version of Linux, would these be counted to bring up the total numbers or are they able to differentiate? If not then I have 7 Linux devices running in my house daily No the numbers are the desktop market share (the link I shared at least). If you wanted to count everything that's not a desktop device it'd be unfair because the vast majority from servers and smart phones to smart devices in the home would be Linux. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Bezson Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 hours ago, LondonSquirrel said: No. Your argument is a fallacy. I have never said there are no Linux users. I have said that I have never seen a Linux user in a coffee shop. As I go to a coffee shop > 3 times a week I would expect by now to see at least 1. I've seen Linux users (other than me) in coffee shops in Sheffield, Manchester, and Madrid. Your local coffee shop(s) is not a significant sample size. (Also, if we're basing numbers off coffee shops, I'm positive we'd over estimate the number of Mac users in the world) Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Bez Bezson said: I've seen Linux users (other than me) in coffee shops in Sheffield, Manchester, and Madrid. All university cities, and we all know that university students are too poverty stricken to buy software and therefore producing Linux versions wouldn't be commercialy viable. 😉 PaulEC and MattyWS 2 Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyWS Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 got photoshop cc to work on linux. It was pretty straight forward, using wine ^^ Snapseed and Pufty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdobrescu Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, MattyWS said: got photoshop cc to work on linux. It was pretty straight forward, using wine ^^ There is no Wine to support IE authentication, or is it? Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gukosowa Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I freshly switch from windows to Linux. I miss nothing but my affinity programs.. I read about 500.000€ serif needs to build a Linux version, where is the button to pledge? Only money makes decisions for directions, right? Why here goes all with market share, Linux devices and so on, it will not change the goal of getting affinitys to Linux if suddenly one person is in right. Money has a much stronger word. We have now 2022, I found a post from 2014, something must be done or it will never happen Bez Bezson and thedrumdoctor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon172 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I tried with the newest Wine tkg version (Wine-Tkg-Fsync 7.3) and I can install now Affinity Designer. I can also start it, but it infinitely loads. Something is with the graphics or window (manager) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufty Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 6:19 PM, Anon172 said: I tried with the newest Wine tkg version (Wine-Tkg-Fsync 7.3) and I can install now Affinity Designer. I can also start it, but it infinitely loads. Something is with the graphics or window (manager) I had this a while before actually when I tried getting it to work with wine. It looked extremely hopeful when everything from the installer to the download folder and shortcut worked correctly, but launching it never worked. You would see the splash screen and nothing else. So in other news I'm seeing that Adobe products are getting easier to get working on Linux now? Snapseed and Bez Bezson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloT Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 6:41 AM, gukosowa said: Only money makes decisions for directions, right? Unfortunately, yes. Those greedy developers pretend to be paid. Paolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Bezson Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Pufty said: So in other news I'm seeing that Adobe products are getting easier to get working on Linux now? Yeah, if it keeps improving I might have to get a CC subscription. Snapseed and Pufty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderings Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 10:51 AM, MattyWS said: got photoshop cc to work on linux. It was pretty straight forward, using wine ^^ So do you have to stay using the exact version you have installed? How does it handle updates? For every update do you have to go through whatever process it took to get it working on Linux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceyefeye Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I just wonder now, with the advent of Win 11, if we will not start to see an increase in the Linux desktop base. I have a bunch of machines, that I use/support. One of which is a reasonable MSI gs73vr 6rf machine. And guess what, it does not meet the Win 11 requirements! I am sure that I am not the only one that M$ is going to drive away. Really am not in a position to replace any of my machines and I am sure I am not unique in this regard. And with their new hardware requirements, pirated Win 11 is not really going to be a "thing" on aging machines. For the longest time, one of the biggest impediments to migrating to Linux, was the absence of a "real CAD" package. Now with Draftsight and Ares Commander Linux is certainly more viable for me. Let's face it though, you can function on Linux with Scribus, Inkscape and GIMP/Krita. But none of them really have the UI that Affinity/Adobe have. Thus having a decent suite like Affinity following would just be awesome. Just my thoughts following the release of Win 11 EmanueL-AT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 hours ago, sceyefeye said: I have a bunch of machines, that I use/support. One of which is a reasonable MSI gs73vr 6rf machine. And guess what, it does not meet the Win 11 requirements! I am sure that I am not the only one that M$ is going to drive away. Really am not in a position to replace any of my machines and I am sure I am not unique in this regard. And with their new hardware requirements, pirated Win 11 is not really going to be a "thing" on aging machines. I don't see Win 11 driving people away, and certainly not into the arms of Linux. I know one person who's "upgraded", and he's monumentaly unimpressed - everyone else is ignoring it. fwiw my guess is that MS will extend the support period for Win 10 and hope that the number of people who can't use 11 drops enough that they can be ignored. Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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