MattyWS

They could very literally have made affinity work like native through wine tbh. I know Serif said they won't be supporting linux, but it could have been kinda simple. Like some of the latest and greatest videogames that are being released with day 1 steamdeck support are actually just windows games, even though steamdeck is linux. That's how easy things are getting. Serif could dedicate a little time to wine development specifically for their product and be done, everyone on linux would have a working suite worth using. Heck my company doesn't support a linux version of our game, but when it stopped working on steamdeck after an update my colleagues went out and got a steamdeck, fixed the issue and released a patch *just* for linux support, despite being a windows game. This honestly is how it should be. with software development. Devs should be passionate about getting their product into the hands of people that want it.

yup, thats really their own failing though and now they're limited with what the can do with the software they've made. It's a shame because affinity suite is great but yea, if they didn't have the foresight to make their software cross platform then it's a real shame. It seems to be unnecessarily hard work for Serif to support just the three platforms (windows, mac and iOS). Strange they'd support iOS but not android either, considering android has a larger market share than iOS.. if their reasoning is that there's more people on mac than linux.

yea from my experience the devs are very stuck in their way and don't want to change some things. Took years to get TGA support for example, despite it being an industry standard format used in multiple industries like TV and videogames. It's really strange to me why they wouldn't want to cater to such large industries but their answer is always something like "this is a photo editing software for photographers", as if photoshop isn't exactly that too.

Charging for every major version is fine for a couple of reasons; 1) it's normal in the software world and devs need money somehow 2) the alternative is a subscription model... so maybe stop complaining 3) you still own v1, you can still use v1, you aren't forced to pay more unless you want v2

looks like no changes to channels

Yea, I've accepted that Serif have chosen not to support the Linux platform (regardless of if I disagree with that choice it's theirs to make). No need to act out and try to punish them for it. I just wish they'd develop their applications in such a way that it would be truly cross platform (or at least make it work via wine)

I disagree that comparing gimp and blender is unfair. I specifically said gimp needs to have that backing to succeed, not that gimp isn't succeeding despite having some kind of backing. Also if the "default" is not user friendly thats the problem of the application not people IMO. Why would it be non-user friendly by default on purpose?

The deal is good, £90 for all of their software on all supported platforms is a steal to be fair. Linux sadly isn't one of those platforms, though I would still love for it to be. Anyways, I guess with v2 they've kinda cut off any chance of using affinity on linux for now. Gimp needs more than some love. Gimp needs to either be build from the ground up or be taken on by a decent company like Blender has. Without a decent backing, Gimp is nothing. Progress on updates are extremely slow and the updates that are coming according to the roadmap are minimal, meanwhile Blender is blazing forward taking over the 3D industry with every update they bring. It's a real shame tbh. Krita is great but limited to its own thing, hand painted raster images. Inkscape is not very intuitive, especially compared to the likes of Affinity Designer, but I respect that its a good application once you learn how to use it. In the end like 1stn00b said, darktable is a great photo editor (specifically only photo editor really). It's a shame there's nothing really like Affinity Photo or Photoshop for us on Linux that can be taken seriously. These days I really just use darktable for editing images in batches, substance designer for channel packing and photopea if I need to do any random image manipulating thats not too heavy. The Affinity Suite on linux would just be awesome. There are millions of linux users out there wanting this and even more people who don't realise they want it until it comes.

is that to say that this MSIX will not be installable on linux via wine at all? D: I had high hopes. I purchased the full v2 suite anyway in the hopes it might work on linux, but I do have an ipad/thinking of getting a macbook as well so it's no major loss... but I do daily drive linux so it'd kinda suck if the devs went a route that blocks us entirely

I don't want to explain in too much detail as I don't want anyone to do this and pirate Affinity software but for me to try to get Affinity working on Wine I found that you can download files from the MS store via web browser using the store link, you don't need to log in or pay for anything. which IMO is a massive loophole as once you get hold of the appx file you can literally unzip it and find all the files in there, fully working. You can also find them on your pc locally assuming you purchased it but I couldn't find the local files at first so I tried via browser instead. That said I did buy the serif products on the MS store so I had no problem morally doing this for myself. to try on linux. Getting affinity software in the appx format *does not* work on linux and would be pointless for anyone to try it. Get it from the serif store.

when you buy affinity of the Windows Store, what you get is a download of the application as a .appx file which is basically a zip of the installed folder of the application that just runs. Sadly for Serif this actually means anyone who can bypass the payment system and download the appx file can actually just use affinity on windows without a license and I hope that by my pointing that out, Serif become aware of this and find a way to fix it before too many people pirate it. Of course what this means for me is that I can't "install" affinity through wine as the windows store version doesn't come with an installer, just a folder of the files with the exe for the application. For me to get hold of the affinity photo installer would require me to purchase it from the Serif website instead of the Windows Store. I have no problem doing that when it starts to work well on Wine. After all, I did say in this very topic that I would gladly rebuy Linux versions of Affinity and this would be no different.

Ah, oh well it's ok, an extra £150 to get a full suite is no big deal. I'll just repurchase from the website once it works well enough via wine. Probably my own fault for relying on the windows store too much a few years prior

You mentioned you would rather not use it in this state as it's stressful but at least it's seemingly fully featured. This goes a really long way. I'm glad it seems possible now and this gives me hope that Wine devs can bring this up to standard. I wonder if Serif would allow people with MS Store purchases to transfer their licenses to use the downloadable installation from their store (or maybe we already can?). Either way if I have to buy it again from their website after it works perfectly on Linux I definitely will. ^^

Ah I might have a harder time than you, I got my affinity license from the windows store so I have to fish for the .appx which is effectively a zip file containing the "installed files" with the working exe in there, so no actual installation file for me ; ;

Oh this is a great step in the right direction. I tried and failed to install affinity last night via Wine but I haven't tried bottles before. Did you use the .appx file of affinity photo or did you unzip it and choose the .exe? Edit: hm, I tried bottles and couldn't get affinity photo running at all but then I don't really know what I'm doing with bottles so it's a bit confusing. Time to learn