German_Printer Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, MikeW said: That has nothing to do with this topic. I believe @Stephan Jaeggi already has a post on the forum that links to the same article. no, it's exactly the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicDesigner Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Wie hilft mir die App? Es wäre hilfreich, wenn Sie das auch in Ihrer Antwort beschreiben. Und warum schreiben Sie auf Deutsch? Man würde Sie hier besser auf Englisch verstehen. Sind Sie mit dieser App irgendwie verbunden? Any affiliation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, German Printer said: no, it's exactly the topic No, The Ghent Suite deals with other issues. This was what Stephan pointed out in the article you first pointed to. At the time that Stephan engaged here, there was only one application that passed all tests--something that isn't a desktop publishing solution and is beyond many/most peoples' financial means. While I do not use Affinity applications for most any production, I have used them for production jobs and or for adverts to be placed in QXP/ID. A person can build good files in Affinity applications...and one can have issues whether going to a final pdf for a print service or for placing in another layout application. But this is also true of ID, AI, PS, QXP et al, one can build proper pdfs or not in them too. This thread is specifically about opening a pdf and APhoto/AD, and has since included APub, as regards font embedding and the need for pdf passthrough. PDF Passthrough will come at a future date. However, I have no doubt the Ghent Suite will still reveal Affinity application issues (based on past implementations of the pdf library in use). If you would like, this discussion can continue in a new thread devoted to the Ghent Suite failings if you care to start one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Printer Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 The fact is that PDF files cannot be processed properly in Affinity Publisher. The source of the error lies in the program itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (...) Alfred and GraphicDesigner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Printer Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 According to the manufacturer, these fonts can be embedded in a PDF Affinity_PDF_Test.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Printer Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 According to the manufacturer, these fonts can be embedded in a PDF https://www.softmaker.com/en/megafont https://www.softmaker.com/en/handwriting-fonts https://www.infinitype.com/en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 hours ago, German Printer said: The fact is that PDF files cannot be processed properly in Affinity Publisher. The source of the error lies in the program itself. It is well known that none of the Affinity applications can make use of fonts embedded in a PDF file. The user must have the font installed locally as the use of embedded fonts is simply not yet implemented in the applications. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicDesigner Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 @Lagarto Wow, thanks a lot for this detailed reply! I’m not going to mess with it now but I’ll check it the next time I have to do this. I’m saving it as a reference. This is going to be super helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill MDC Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 G'day all this a is a bit brain damaging for us poor Graphic designers but I did a quick fix which might help you out of a pickle, if you just want to import the original into Affinity without applying changes to fonts, This is on Mac OSX 14 open Preview application this will recognise the embedded fonts in the pdf go to export save as jpeg 300dpi voila! as good as the original pdf and prints with fonts because it's now an image bum bum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:49 AM, Bill MDC said: open Preview application this will recognise the embedded fonts in the pdf go to export save as jpeg 300dpi voila! as good as the original pdf and prints with fonts because it's now an image bum bum Definitely not as good as the original. Bitmapping to 300 dpi will lose significant quality for vector line-art (which is what text is), and would need to be at 1200dpi. JPEGging can also create artefacts in areas of high contrast, particularly with type. Better workarounds are: outline the font data in the PDF (so that the text just becomes vector images); or convert to EPS, of which, for some reason, Affinity can read the embedded fonts correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Schneck Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Any news, when affinity can handle embedded fonts? Could anybody help out by a workaround. Maybe a free software to outline the fonts? Thank you very much in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmuller Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 @Daniel_Schneck try the latest Publisher Beta - has built in support for passthrough embedded fonts and works exceptionally well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmuller Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Quick example using the Math pdf above... publsiher-pdf.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwaaui Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Daniel_Schneck said: Any news, when affinity can handle embedded fonts? Could anybody help out by a workaround. Maybe a free software to outline the fonts? Thank you very much in advance You can check for embedded fonts in a PDF document using command line: strings path/filename.pdf | grep FontName Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catshill Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 My workaround is to use this script... 15 hours ago, Daniel_Schneck said: Any news, when affinity can handle embedded fonts? Could anybody help out by a workaround. Maybe a free software to outline the fonts? Thank you very much in advance My workaround (well until 1.9 is released) is to use the Ghostscript method described in this thread. It is not ideal having to break out of APu especially to convert multiple PDFs but once installed it is quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Affinity should have an option to substitute fonts with the font manager for PDF as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, ashf said: Affinity should have an option to substitute fonts with the font manager for PDF as well. Absolutely not... Wanna deal with a PDF's fonts, open it and sub fonts. Need it, once one has dealt with embedded fonts after that? Then copy the desired elements to the working file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, ashf said: Affinity should have an option to substitute fonts with the font manager for PDF as well. It does it does have that option. When you Open a PDF, you are given the option of doing a permanent substitution of the missing font with a local font, or not: If you choose the "Replace missing fonts" option the fonts are permanently replaced with the replacements you choose. If you do not choose that option, then a temporary substitution is performed, and you can see that in the Font Manager: At that point, if you have Publisher, Find and Replace will still allow you to perform a permanent substitution. Alternatively, if you Place the PDF, you can choose PassThrough mode, and you don't need to do any font substitution. MikeW 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, MikeW said: Absolutely not... Wanna deal with a PDF's fonts, open it and sub fonts. Need it, once one has dealt with embedded fonts after that? Then copy the desired elements to the working file. Well, it's probably not just matter of the font applied. encoding conversion may be related also. Embedded fonts are totally useless in our language.(CJK) Whatever font I apply to it, it's still garbled text. So probably need better encoding conversion or something besides substituting fonts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 The first link in the thread you linked to goes to a locked pdf (ahd2000.pdf). If I unlock it so I can see the encoding...there isn't any encoding. There are simply characters with a hint as to the character collection. However, I can, with the unlocked pdf, copy the text to (in this case) my text editor and then from the text editor to APub properly. Because I can go through an intermediary application, yes, perhaps Serif could deal with non-encoded glyphs better--but as I cannot read the language, "properly" in the previous sentence is subject to review by a person such as yourself who can read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, MikeW said: The first link in the thread you linked to goes to a locked pdf (ahd2000.pdf). If I unlock it so I can see the encoding...there isn't any encoding. There are simply characters with a hint as to the character collection. However, I can, with the unlocked pdf, copy the text to (in this case) my text editor and then from the text editor to APub properly. Because I can go through an intermediary application, yes, perhaps Serif could deal with non-encoded glyphs better--but as I cannot read the language, "properly" in the previous sentence is subject to review by a person such as yourself who can read it. I know it's locked, just ignore it. Try the attached pdf I created. embedded-fonts-ai.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, ashf said: I know it's locked, just ignore it. Try the attached pdf I created. Again, copy from the pdf --> text editor --> APub. ashf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, MikeW said: Again, copy from the pdf --> text editor --> APub. Thank you, but It's not useful when the text is separated in many objects scattered all over the canvas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, ashf said: Thank you, but It's not useful when the text is separated in many objects scattered all over the canvas. While it would take me 10 or so minutes per page to reconstruct something like that Denon pdf, it's doable. Even with an application that can open that pdf for editing and maintain, make use of the fonts/characters used, one cannot easily change fonts altogether or use characters not already in the pdf. That is down to both encoding and subset of fonts. I do not believe cjk fonts can be fully embedded. ashf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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