nitro912gr Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 8:59 PM, James Ritson said: The benchmark in Photo will be representative for all the Affinity apps—the CPU single and multi vector scores illustrate the kind of performance to expect in Designer as it primarily deals with vector operations (which are all CPU-based). Text will be rendered on CPU as it's vector. I believe layer effects (e.g. drop shadow, gaussian blur) are also rendered on CPU in Designer but I'll double check. There could be other factors at play—it's worth doing the benchmark first on both machines to compare the scores, as it may highlight an area where one is weaker... So I did some back and forth and more testing with more files, used some variety to all vectors, some vectors some rasters and files that had all but the fonts as raster. To my surprise there is no longer any visible performance hit by not having GPU acceleration enabled anymore. Whatever was the reason of the lag I experienced the first time I started looking on why my GPU is not supported, is just not there anymore. Maybe some other bug? Some windows update? Some drivers update else where in the system? Honestly I can't tell. So to conclude, I think I was somewhat misled to what performance impact this had on my systems and my workflow and never tested again to verify, just stopped using the system that could not have the acceleration on. I'm sorry for adding more posts in an issue that, at least on my side, is not really an issue. Although it raise the question on what was the big deal with acceleration anyway, but I don't care as long as things work fast and efficient. As a side note the systems I work on: Quote The one at home with no GPU acceleration is Ryzen 5 2600 16GB 2400 DDR4 ram Radeon 5500XT 4GB SSD: Crucial MX500 SSD 500GB M.2 SATA III The one at office with GPU acceleration ON: Ryzen 1600AF (not to be confused with the original 1600, this is a bit slower 2600 with another name for reasons only AMD know) 16GB 2666 DDR4 RAM Radeon 7790 1GB SSD: Samsung Evo 850 250GB Quote Current Workstation: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 - MOBO: Asus B450 - RAM: 16GB DDR4 2667Mhz - GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 1GB NVMe SSD: Crusial P3 1TB M.2 - SSD: Samsung Evo 850 256GB - PSU: XFX TS450 - OS: Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasennus Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Hi Mark, I recently downloaded the Affinity Designer trial. I run a RX5700XT and came across this thread in regards to hardware acceleration. Wondering how the bug report to AMD is progressing as I am on the cusp of a system upgrade. Having been a long term ATI / AMD user it would be preferable to remain with their hardware. Does it look like this issue will be addressed within the near future? Thank you for your time. rkdp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdp Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 AMD released a new driver yesterday (Oct 4, 2022) and in the notes it may seem to show a fix (though not explicit) , which Affinity would then have to test and then re-enable hardware acceleration. I switched to nVidia more than a year ago, but I am hoping that since the 4000 series is completely new that the driver issue will not exist. I've been very disappointed with AMD's seeming lack of response on this issue as it has been coming up on 2 years now! neps and PSDfield 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboror Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I hope this new realese of AMD PRO and Adrenaline have the metioned bug fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqyizo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Any way for us to know if Serif can work with AMD's recent updates to turn on hardware acceleration for RX gpus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdp Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 AMD has had almost 2 years to correct this and has chosen not to. With their new gpus coming out, I don't think AMD is going to make last generation's gpus a high priority. And I'm saying this and yet hoping their new ones have a good showing and work properly with OpenCL! debraspicher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, rkdp said: AMD has had almost 2 years to correct this and has chosen not to. With their new gpus coming out, I don't think AMD is going to make last generation's gpus a high priority. And I'm saying this and yet hoping their new ones have a good showing and work properly with OpenCL! Supposedly allegedly they are putting major emphasis on better drivers to compete this gen. Might be why they could be delayed. How this impacts OpenCL I don't know, but with Zen 4 not flying off the shelf they could use this win. Nvidia just unlaunched one of the 4080s (should have been a 4070/4060...) due to bad press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro912gr Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 hours ago, debraspicher said: Supposedly allegedly they are putting major emphasis on better drivers to compete this gen. Might be why they could be delayed. How this impacts OpenCL I don't know, but with Zen 4 not flying off the shelf they could use this win. Nvidia just unlaunched one of the 4080s (should have been a 4070/4060...) due to bad press. zen 4 and AM5 is not flying of the selfs because it cost as much as a whole PC to just get CPU+MOBO right now. It is funny that they are not outsold by intel but the AM4 offerings. Quote Current Workstation: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 - MOBO: Asus B450 - RAM: 16GB DDR4 2667Mhz - GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 1GB NVMe SSD: Crusial P3 1TB M.2 - SSD: Samsung Evo 850 256GB - PSU: XFX TS450 - OS: Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackariasa Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 i have the same case, i use the nvidia RTX3050 GPU & Intel Iris Xe Graphics the procie use core i7 gen 11, before update to win 11 22H2, the Hardware Acceleration is fine and still work. but after update to 22H2 the openCL Hardware acceleration give me notice : Unsupported Machine Configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Zackariasa said: i have the same case, i use the nvidia RTX3050 GPU & Intel Iris Xe Graphics the procie use core i7 gen 11, before update to win 11 22H2, the Hardware Acceleration is fine and still work. but after update to 22H2 the openCL Hardware acceleration give me notice : Unsupported Machine Configuration. This topic is about AMD RX graphics, and you seem to have Nvidia RTX graphics, so it does not sound like the same issue. I think you should post your own topic, and provide some additional info such as a screenshot of your Performance Preferences in the application. Also, a screenshot of the output of the dxdiag command might be useful. I can't check right now but I think we'd want to see the Display tab for each of your GPUs. nitro912gr 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doteya Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Photo V2 can enable OpenCL acceleration with my RX6800 and adrenalin 22.10.3 on Windows 11. Serif may not update V1 anymore, I use V2 from now. nitro912gr and ashf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro912gr Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just updated to designer 2, 5500XT 4GB is working with GPGPU acceleration again. ashf 1 Quote Current Workstation: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 - MOBO: Asus B450 - RAM: 16GB DDR4 2667Mhz - GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 1GB NVMe SSD: Crusial P3 1TB M.2 - SSD: Samsung Evo 850 256GB - PSU: XFX TS450 - OS: Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slizgi Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Yup, OpenCL acceleration seems to up and running in V2. Great news overall, just a bit late and behind a reasonable paywall, but ok. I also do not think it would be fixed in V1, would be nice, but from business perspective have 0 sense. Thanks Serif for figuring and fixing it out in V2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahora Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Photo V2... OpenCL can be activated on Radeon RX 6700 XT graphics, but the work in the program is slower than with the option disabled. Just opening a NEF file takes much longer than with the OpenCL option turned off. Likewise, work in the program, tools, brush movement... everything lags :-(. Unfortunately, with the OpenCL option disabled, the program is not fast either, but still better than with opencl enabled. It's a shame, this is the only thing missing for me to be satisfied with the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slizgi Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Rahora said: Photo V2... OpenCL can be activated on Radeon RX 6700 XT graphics, but the work in the program is slower than with the option disabled. Just opening a NEF file takes much longer than with the OpenCL option turned off. Likewise, work in the program, tools, brush movement... everything lags :-(. Unfortunately, with the OpenCL option disabled, the program is not fast either, but still better than with opencl enabled. It's a shame, this is the only thing missing for me to be satisfied with the upgrade. ohh... so they just add an option to turn it on/off, despite fast or slow OCL rebuilds, I see. So it is not fixed, just swept under the rug. I guess we have to wait for AMD now, so who know how long or if even they are able to do anything about that... It is just odd that it works fine in other apps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Hope OpenCL performance of Radeon will be fixed also soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doteya Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On my PC's Affinity Photo 2 benchmark, Raster (Multi CPU) : 559 (Ryzen 9 3900X) Raster (Single GPU) : 902 (Radeon RX6800) Raster (Single GPU) : 6726 (GeForce GTX1070) I have reported the low performance issue from AMD software. Rahora, ashf, neps and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slizgi Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:55 AM, ashf said: Hope OpenCL performance of Radeon will be fixed also soon... As much as I would like to believe in that, it is almost above 2 years so... From other hand, once I had a problem with Substance Painter and AMD did provide me a beta driver within a week after I politely nag (only once) one of the higher-ups in Radeon structures. I don't know, maybe we Radeon and Affinity users have to put some polite and civilized pressure on AMD to finally do something about that. Or if they have something wrong with their architecture that creates this issue, to at last admit it in our face. ashf and nitro912gr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 6:20 AM, Doteya said: On my PC's Affinity Photo 2 benchmark, Raster (Multi CPU) : 559 (Ryzen 9 3900X) Raster (Single GPU) : 902 (Radeon RX6800) Raster (Single GPU) : 6726 (GeForce GTX1070) I have reported the low performance issue from AMD software. Benchmark is running a different version and so your results are not comparable with the V1.9 measurements. Therefore, it's likely it's scoring or measuring GPU differently, not that your performance is necessarily diminished. I'm getting about 10K single/up to 7000 combined on a 3080, whereas before I was getting as high as 22K single. If you go one post up, you can see my old results. My performance is better overall in V2 as far as I can tell. I actually tested the 3900X at some point on V1 on the same setup. nitro912gr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doteya Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, debraspicher said: Benchmark is running a different version and so your results are not comparable with the V1.9 measurements. Therefore, it's likely it's scoring or measuring GPU differently, not that your performance is necessarily diminished. I'm getting about 10K single/up to 7000 combined on a 3080, whereas before I was getting as high as 22K single. If you go one post up, you can see my old results. My performance is better overall in V2 as far as I can tell. I actually tested the 3900X at some point on V1 on the same setup. Hi, My results are on same version of Affinity Photo V2 2.0.0.1640. I have some PCs. Ryzen 9 3900X/64GB 3200MHz/Radeon RX6800 Ryzen 5 1600AF/32GB 2666MHz/GeForce GTX 1070 debraspicher, neps and nitro912gr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Doteya said: Hi, My results are on same version of Affinity Photo V2 2.0.0.1640. I have some PCs. Ryzen 9 3900X/64GB 3200MHz/Radeon RX6800 あぁ、ごめん。真実にスコアを読み違えてに V1ではもっと早いCPUに変えるたびにCPUシングルもGPUスコアとも増やすと習って来ました。それでCPUこそGPUスコアのために大切そう。こうにV2は似ているか知りません。と言っても3600Xは900スコアが確かに低すぎる。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasto7 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Disappointing CPU Ryzen 7 3700x GPU AMD Radeon RX 5700 36 TB M.2 SSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqyizo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 CPU Ryzen 5 5600 GPU Radeon RX 6800 Looks like all our benchmarks are very varied, but all equally lacking. 😥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I wonder if y'all run something like GPU-Z while running the benchmark/application, does it actually utilize the GPU? I have a 5000 series card, I'm considering installing it in another rig we have to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I wonder if there is a future for OpenCL... Blender has already removed it.https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Source/Render/Cycles/OpenCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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