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    midsummer reacted to ponce068 in CMYK : Color Separations preview   
    Read in forum "some people" ask this feature...
    But color separations preview is important for professional printing.
    For printing process, we use Illustrator a lot for these tools: checking resolution of bitmap pictures, checking and correcting CMYK (especially convert composite black to true black when a pdf has been generated with som "exotic" software") and so on.
    Full control and preview is important if not working only for screen and web!
    That's why I continue to use Adobe Illustrator rather Affinity Designer. Printing a PDF and checking resutl in Acrobat is not an answer.
    Wish this helpfull fonction will be added one and not stay specific to Adobe...
    Hope it will be present in Publisher too if it pretends to be a serious "InDesign Killer".
    So Hope I can really work with "Affinity suite" once main professional functions are here :-)
    Sorry for english mistakes, usually writing in french here.

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    midsummer reacted to MEB in Wrong layer concept for an layout application   
    Hi melriksdesign,
    Welcome to Affinity Forums
    Global layers are already planned for an upcoming update (after Publisher's release eventually but I may be wrong here).
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    midsummer reacted to musiberti in Wrong layer concept for an layout application   
    For example, I have a catalog with a colored frame below the prices. I usually place these frames all on a single layer under all prices on every site. Then I place different frames with another graphic style on another layer. When I now activate or deactivate these layers, all pages of the entire document are changed at once. If the customer made his choice, I change the style of the price-design in the whole document with just one mouse click. In Affinity Publisher, I have to edit each page, create layers, select ... It costs a lot of unnecessary time.
    If you are working professional for paying Customers this workflow is a must. No one pays you for the time it takes to complete a process that should be completely automatic.
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    midsummer reacted to Michael Hurley in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    @thomaso: I haven't commented before, but here's another use-case for 1-bit support like in other layout applications (QuarkXpress, InDesign, PageMaker, etc.). At my printshop we just ran a mailing job with letters offset printed 2-color spot. The customer wanted the letter text in black with their signature in blue to look more like it was hand-written with a biro. I scanned their signature at 2400 DPI (that's our platemaker's native resolution) as a 1-bit TIFF, inserted it in InDesign, and applied the PMS blue swatch to it. Instantly spot separatable art without having to mess around with Photoshop Monotones or Illustrator vectorization tools. This cannot be done with grayscale, RGB, or CMYK raster graphics. It's a quick, simple, accurate method, and it works every time. It baffles me that the Affinity Suite do not support this in any way. It's literally an industry-standard print workflow (as evidenced by all the above commentary).
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    midsummer reacted to Medical Officer Bones in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    You explained it more succinct than I did. Indeed!
    Here is an example of the wanted PDF output. The black line art is 1200ppi and set to overprint, and the colours are 300ppi. Notice the difference in pixel size. The colour work will be halftones, while the 1bit line art will retain its sharpness when printed - just like black text, or black vector art. No halftones there.
    Absolutely essential for all sorts of print work. Without this option, Publisher is going to be handicapped from the very start. Just like Affinity Photo is with the lack of 1bit support.

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    midsummer reacted to Medical Officer Bones in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Yet, there is. 1bit prints without being rasterized to half tones. 8bit is always rasterized and converted to halftones. A grayscale 8bit image contains 0-255 shades of gray, and even black will be printed at 300dpi (dots!). A 1200ppi 1bit black line will, however, be printed at that resolution (barring the quality of the paper, and the subsequent dot gain).
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    midsummer reacted to Jens Krebs in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Just want to add my voice for this too -- 1bit support is important for a lot of things, from a logo over text up to pencil drawings, cuttings, plottin, artistic effects …
    Please include this in a future update!
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    midsummer reacted to Medical Officer Bones in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Yes, as long as 1bit support is lacking, we will have to deal with work-arounds, or just rely on alternative software. A bit frustrating, because when I open your PDF in PhotoLine it takes two clicks to create the proper 1bit layer and overprint it. Two more clicks to assign a spot colour. InDesign treats these type of 1bit tiffs automatically as overprinting.
    Let's hope the Affinity devs will add this support before 1.7 is released. I think, because of the lack of 1bit support in the other Affinity apps, this may take longer for them to implement, however. I suspect it's just not part of the core functionality of Affinity, and will take more effort on their part.
    Thanks for all your testing!
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    midsummer reacted to Medical Officer Bones in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    You are missing the point. Do you understand how halftones and LPI (lines per inch) work in print tech? If not, look it up.
    Printing black and white line art at 300dpi is too low for a quality print. Refer to @Fixx answer about terrible looking comic strips and lettering when printed at 300dpi in a news paper, or in black and white print.
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    midsummer reacted to IDT Adrian in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    I also would love 1-bit support.
    Definitely an upvote from me
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    midsummer got a reaction from Fixx in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Literally the very first thing I tried to do with Affinity Designer was to drop a 1-bit logo file into a blank document. It was a bit disappointing to realize that I'd just bought a graphic design app that can't handle company logos or barcodes.
    In InDesign or Illustrator you can just drop a bitmap logo / drawing into a document and change its fill to any color (very handy for designs that require spot colors). The bitmaps keep their crisp 1200 dpi resolution (and don't get anti-aliased) when exported to PDFs. It's a very hassle-free and effective way of working.
    Am I just old-fashioned? Is there some new way of dealing with this stuff in Affinity Photo / Designer / Publisher that I'm just not aware of yet?
    Every alternative suggestion I've seen on the forums has been far too complicated for what needs to be done. Following those suggestions would also lead to losing the benefits of working with 1-bit bitmaps anyway, resulting in downsampled and lossily compressed images in PDFs. Adobe's software offers separate downsampling settings for color, grayscale, and bitmap images, Affinity squashes all and everything with equal measure. That makes Affinity apps simply unsuitable for some print workflows, despite all the fantastic features they have. 
    I'm aware that proper 1-bit color support might be technically more challenging to implement than it sounds, as it comes with the requirement to treat different image files placed in the same document in a different manner. That would probably pose new challenges for drawing the images on the screen too. And the PDF engine is probably a big hurdle too, since it is a third-party solution (as far as I know), and not flexible enough?
     
    It would be nice to hear the developers' view on bitmap support. What's the reasoning for leaving it off the roadmap? Is it going to be added later (together with better tools to work with spot colors, maybe), or has the decision been made that it's simply not going to be supported and old-fashioned geezers like me should look elsewhere? Affinity Publisher's release is going to attract even more people fed up with Adobe's pricing model looking for alternative software. The lack of bitmap support might be a decisive factor for many, more critical than the design tools themselves. Some software can't deal with CMYK. Affinity stumbles with 1-bit images.
     
    (I probably sound like a broken record at this point, having written many posts about this subject already. Sorry about that.)
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    midsummer reacted to BennyD in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    I need 1-Bit support for flatbed direct to plate UV-print and for Riso printing. Our layouts for the direct to plate print use complex white underprint which is set up via spot color. Currently we generate 1-Bit tif-files which get assigned with spot colors in InDesign. Same with the Riso print. Color separation for spot colors is a lot easier with colorized 1-Bit files.
    Cheers
    Benny
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    midsummer got a reaction from Fixx in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Literally the very first thing I tried to do with Affinity Designer was to drop a 1-bit logo file into a blank document. It was a bit disappointing to realize that I'd just bought a graphic design app that can't handle company logos or barcodes.
    In InDesign or Illustrator you can just drop a bitmap logo / drawing into a document and change its fill to any color (very handy for designs that require spot colors). The bitmaps keep their crisp 1200 dpi resolution (and don't get anti-aliased) when exported to PDFs. It's a very hassle-free and effective way of working.
    Am I just old-fashioned? Is there some new way of dealing with this stuff in Affinity Photo / Designer / Publisher that I'm just not aware of yet?
    Every alternative suggestion I've seen on the forums has been far too complicated for what needs to be done. Following those suggestions would also lead to losing the benefits of working with 1-bit bitmaps anyway, resulting in downsampled and lossily compressed images in PDFs. Adobe's software offers separate downsampling settings for color, grayscale, and bitmap images, Affinity squashes all and everything with equal measure. That makes Affinity apps simply unsuitable for some print workflows, despite all the fantastic features they have. 
    I'm aware that proper 1-bit color support might be technically more challenging to implement than it sounds, as it comes with the requirement to treat different image files placed in the same document in a different manner. That would probably pose new challenges for drawing the images on the screen too. And the PDF engine is probably a big hurdle too, since it is a third-party solution (as far as I know), and not flexible enough?
     
    It would be nice to hear the developers' view on bitmap support. What's the reasoning for leaving it off the roadmap? Is it going to be added later (together with better tools to work with spot colors, maybe), or has the decision been made that it's simply not going to be supported and old-fashioned geezers like me should look elsewhere? Affinity Publisher's release is going to attract even more people fed up with Adobe's pricing model looking for alternative software. The lack of bitmap support might be a decisive factor for many, more critical than the design tools themselves. Some software can't deal with CMYK. Affinity stumbles with 1-bit images.
     
    (I probably sound like a broken record at this point, having written many posts about this subject already. Sorry about that.)
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    midsummer reacted to madtho in 1bit / bitmap mode colour format?   
    I work in letterpress printing and screenprinting and use 1 bit mode every day. Please include this feature.
     
    Reiterating what others have said:
    Letterpress require a solid, no line screen image to make clean film for plates. We, too, scan calligraphy for invitations at 1200dpi for high resolution platemaking.
    In PS I  scan>convert to greyscale>play with levels, then Threshold>convert to bitmap. Then I colorize with spot (Pantone) colors in layout software.
     
    I've been doing this for close to 20 years (yikes) and am happy to consult to bring this feature to Affinity.
    thanks!
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    midsummer reacted to dnlklondon in Affinity Designer feature roadmap   
    I too hope that PDF/X-1a:2001 will be an option when exporting. This is the most common PDF option requirement for UK print publications. When sending ad copy all UK Newspapers ask for PDFs to be saved in that. 

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    midsummer got a reaction from Fixx in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Literally the very first thing I tried to do with Affinity Designer was to drop a 1-bit logo file into a blank document. It was a bit disappointing to realize that I'd just bought a graphic design app that can't handle company logos or barcodes.
    In InDesign or Illustrator you can just drop a bitmap logo / drawing into a document and change its fill to any color (very handy for designs that require spot colors). The bitmaps keep their crisp 1200 dpi resolution (and don't get anti-aliased) when exported to PDFs. It's a very hassle-free and effective way of working.
    Am I just old-fashioned? Is there some new way of dealing with this stuff in Affinity Photo / Designer / Publisher that I'm just not aware of yet?
    Every alternative suggestion I've seen on the forums has been far too complicated for what needs to be done. Following those suggestions would also lead to losing the benefits of working with 1-bit bitmaps anyway, resulting in downsampled and lossily compressed images in PDFs. Adobe's software offers separate downsampling settings for color, grayscale, and bitmap images, Affinity squashes all and everything with equal measure. That makes Affinity apps simply unsuitable for some print workflows, despite all the fantastic features they have. 
    I'm aware that proper 1-bit color support might be technically more challenging to implement than it sounds, as it comes with the requirement to treat different image files placed in the same document in a different manner. That would probably pose new challenges for drawing the images on the screen too. And the PDF engine is probably a big hurdle too, since it is a third-party solution (as far as I know), and not flexible enough?
     
    It would be nice to hear the developers' view on bitmap support. What's the reasoning for leaving it off the roadmap? Is it going to be added later (together with better tools to work with spot colors, maybe), or has the decision been made that it's simply not going to be supported and old-fashioned geezers like me should look elsewhere? Affinity Publisher's release is going to attract even more people fed up with Adobe's pricing model looking for alternative software. The lack of bitmap support might be a decisive factor for many, more critical than the design tools themselves. Some software can't deal with CMYK. Affinity stumbles with 1-bit images.
     
    (I probably sound like a broken record at this point, having written many posts about this subject already. Sorry about that.)
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    midsummer reacted to Medical Officer Bones in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    I need 1-bit support for my comics and illustrations. Currently I use PhotoLine for this, which surprisingly has perfect support for this, even better than Photoshop or any other image editor out there:
    works with layers(!) Meaning, unlike Photoshop it's no problem to combine multiple 1bit layers. can be combined in a single document with RGB or CMYK 300ppi layers and create a top 1bit 1200ppi layer PDF output in PhotoLine keeps it all intact, and outputs a proper PDF file. The 1bit 1200ppi layer is retained, and the colour work maintains a 300ppi output. InDesign also works well with this, but I no longer rent that software. The only other software I found so far (other than QuarkXPress) that supports a good 1-bit workflow is PhotoLine. And I know of no other image editor that supports a layer-based workflow with 1-bit graphics.
    I am hoping that Affinity Publisher will support this workflow as well, but so far no cigar. I think all Affinity products ought to support a 1-bit workflow to make this work out properly anyway. (And an 8-bit indexed colour mode is missing in action as well in Affinity Photo, btw!)
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    midsummer got a reaction from Fixx in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Literally the very first thing I tried to do with Affinity Designer was to drop a 1-bit logo file into a blank document. It was a bit disappointing to realize that I'd just bought a graphic design app that can't handle company logos or barcodes.
    In InDesign or Illustrator you can just drop a bitmap logo / drawing into a document and change its fill to any color (very handy for designs that require spot colors). The bitmaps keep their crisp 1200 dpi resolution (and don't get anti-aliased) when exported to PDFs. It's a very hassle-free and effective way of working.
    Am I just old-fashioned? Is there some new way of dealing with this stuff in Affinity Photo / Designer / Publisher that I'm just not aware of yet?
    Every alternative suggestion I've seen on the forums has been far too complicated for what needs to be done. Following those suggestions would also lead to losing the benefits of working with 1-bit bitmaps anyway, resulting in downsampled and lossily compressed images in PDFs. Adobe's software offers separate downsampling settings for color, grayscale, and bitmap images, Affinity squashes all and everything with equal measure. That makes Affinity apps simply unsuitable for some print workflows, despite all the fantastic features they have. 
    I'm aware that proper 1-bit color support might be technically more challenging to implement than it sounds, as it comes with the requirement to treat different image files placed in the same document in a different manner. That would probably pose new challenges for drawing the images on the screen too. And the PDF engine is probably a big hurdle too, since it is a third-party solution (as far as I know), and not flexible enough?
     
    It would be nice to hear the developers' view on bitmap support. What's the reasoning for leaving it off the roadmap? Is it going to be added later (together with better tools to work with spot colors, maybe), or has the decision been made that it's simply not going to be supported and old-fashioned geezers like me should look elsewhere? Affinity Publisher's release is going to attract even more people fed up with Adobe's pricing model looking for alternative software. The lack of bitmap support might be a decisive factor for many, more critical than the design tools themselves. Some software can't deal with CMYK. Affinity stumbles with 1-bit images.
     
    (I probably sound like a broken record at this point, having written many posts about this subject already. Sorry about that.)
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    midsummer got a reaction from Fixx in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Literally the very first thing I tried to do with Affinity Designer was to drop a 1-bit logo file into a blank document. It was a bit disappointing to realize that I'd just bought a graphic design app that can't handle company logos or barcodes.
    In InDesign or Illustrator you can just drop a bitmap logo / drawing into a document and change its fill to any color (very handy for designs that require spot colors). The bitmaps keep their crisp 1200 dpi resolution (and don't get anti-aliased) when exported to PDFs. It's a very hassle-free and effective way of working.
    Am I just old-fashioned? Is there some new way of dealing with this stuff in Affinity Photo / Designer / Publisher that I'm just not aware of yet?
    Every alternative suggestion I've seen on the forums has been far too complicated for what needs to be done. Following those suggestions would also lead to losing the benefits of working with 1-bit bitmaps anyway, resulting in downsampled and lossily compressed images in PDFs. Adobe's software offers separate downsampling settings for color, grayscale, and bitmap images, Affinity squashes all and everything with equal measure. That makes Affinity apps simply unsuitable for some print workflows, despite all the fantastic features they have. 
    I'm aware that proper 1-bit color support might be technically more challenging to implement than it sounds, as it comes with the requirement to treat different image files placed in the same document in a different manner. That would probably pose new challenges for drawing the images on the screen too. And the PDF engine is probably a big hurdle too, since it is a third-party solution (as far as I know), and not flexible enough?
     
    It would be nice to hear the developers' view on bitmap support. What's the reasoning for leaving it off the roadmap? Is it going to be added later (together with better tools to work with spot colors, maybe), or has the decision been made that it's simply not going to be supported and old-fashioned geezers like me should look elsewhere? Affinity Publisher's release is going to attract even more people fed up with Adobe's pricing model looking for alternative software. The lack of bitmap support might be a decisive factor for many, more critical than the design tools themselves. Some software can't deal with CMYK. Affinity stumbles with 1-bit images.
     
    (I probably sound like a broken record at this point, having written many posts about this subject already. Sorry about that.)
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    midsummer reacted to Michael Hurley in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    I would like to add my voice to the requests for 1-bit support. I run the design / pre-press department of a printing company. We do spot-color offset and letterpress. I absolutely need 1-bit support for our workflow. Please, folks! This is a very important part of print production!
    Thanks!
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    midsummer reacted to Aficionado in Saving a 1-bit black & white graphic   
    Hi everyone,
     
    I'm mostly a newbie to vector editing, so I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
     
    I've created a black and white vector graphic using Affinity Designer. The graphic will be incorporated into a printed book, and the printer needs it as a 600dpi 1-bit black and white file — I think a vector format is preferred.
     
    My document resolution is already 600dpi, so that's covered, but I'm struggling to work out how to use Affinity's export options to save out my graphic as 1-bit. Any ideas?
     
    Thanks,
    Gabi
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    midsummer reacted to Clyde in 1bit / bitmap mode colour format?   
    Hello,
    I can not find a Bitmap mode in 1-bit Photo Affinity off I need to process files that keeps strictly their mode and their resolution.
    This is copydot files and it is important that it be treated as such.

    It is provided a 1-bit Mode?

    If that were the case , it might be interesting to have a true improvement over Photoshop that generates moiré patterns when you want the resample .
     
     
     
    (This messages was à Google Translate).
     
     
     
     
    Clyde
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    midsummer reacted to Jim_A in 'Overprint black' rewording suggestion   
    Not really a bug, but rewording might prevent some prepress headaches.
    When exporting a CMYK document using PDF/X, the option to 'overprint black' could be reworded to 'overprint black at 100%'.
    Black set to anything other than 100K knocks out, unless a global swatch with overprinting set is selected.
     



     
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    midsummer reacted to bighache in 1bit / bitmap mode colour format?   
    I haven't done print work in a bit, but now that I'm working in it again I could absolutely use 1-bit TIFF in my workflow, and the absence of this is missed.
    If this is seen by the devs as low-priority, I would argue additional export formats/options are pretty key to image editing software, even more important than "cool" features.
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    midsummer reacted to JET_Affinity in 1bit / bitmap mode colour format?   
    Halftoning effectively blurs the edges of line art.
    A printer (imagesetter) has a fixed resolution. All it actually print is printer spots of the same size. Printer spots are the actual hardware resolution of the imagesetter (typically 3000 or more spots per inch).
    Halftone dots are made up of printer spots..Each dot in a halftone is a collection of printer spots, trying to simulate a circle..The number of different circle sizes possible is therefore determined by the number of printer spots available to simulate them. Divide the number of available printer spots (SPI) by the halftone ruling (LPI), and that's the theoretical number of different-size halftone dots (levels of grey) the device can print. That's why you always get more banding from, say, a 600 SPI laser printer than you do from a 3000 SPI imagesetter.
    Everything in a greyscale image gets halftoned. That means the raster is printed as halftone dots, at the line ruling of the halftone screen (typically 150 lines per inch). It also becomes effectively anti-aliased by the halftoning.process.That's why black text that is part of a raster image looks fuzzy compared to black vector text stacked in front of a raster image.
    1 bit raster objects do not get halftoned at all. They are simply "filled in" with tiny printer spots. So it's common practice to, for example, create or scan line art (think of the inking of a comic book illustration) as 1-bit rasters at something like 1200 PPI, which overlay grayscale or full color raster images. The color artwork prints as 1/150th inch halftone dots. But the 1-bit raster actually prints as 1/1200th-inch squares, giving a crisp, sharp-edged, aliased (not anti-aliased) appearance.
    You can sort of think of 1-bit color depth as the "vector" version of raster imaging in that exactly what you've "drawn" simply gets "filled in" with the tiniest printer spots of the given output device. Take a look at this PDF: Zoom into it as far as you can. Tell me if you think it is raster image or a vector line.
    JET
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