NaulisJakke

This would actually make a great Youtube video. A presenter with a straight face going thru a painstakingly detailed tutorial of how this is done step by step.  

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

It’s been two years since the launch of APub and we still live in total darkness with no end in sight. All we can do is watch update after update pass by. I feel like a guinea pig for some sort of ’wear them out’ strategy. It also becomes for me more and more depressing to open Aphoto and ADesigner - which I love and need - because of this seemingly everlasting limbo. I find this kind of marketing strategy contemptuous and degrading.
 
Therefore I thank you, IAmMatt, for your thorough and well laid-out analysis of the current standing. That was indeed fresh air for the sails of this thread.

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

I thank you as well.
Stay safe.
NaulisJakke

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

Peter Falkenberg Brown, the tone of your writing is out of line. You have begun to produce something comparable to hate speech on behalf of Serif. How on earth do you think you are doing something good for them with this ”Get over it!” shouting?

This kind of line of defense makes Serif look bad. It portrays them as a company who paint great visions of future and deliver great marketing promises while making their customers feel stupid and gullible for not reading the fine print.

This kind of line of defense makes Serif look bad. It portrays them as a company who paint great visions of future and deliver great marketing promises while making their customers feel stupid and gullible for not reading the fine print.

This kind of line of defense makes Serif look bad. It portrays them as a company who paint great visions of future and deliver great marketing promises while making their customers feel stupid and gullible for not reading the fine print.

Serif, the thing you are doing is a questionable if not outright immoral marketing strategy - irrespective of whether it is conscious or not. 
With each passing month your hype of 'professional DTP' lures more and more new professionals into this end/footnote trap. They go through their different frustration phases but it seems practical to think that since the software was affordable I might use it for something else than end/footnote work. But this does not make go away the fact that the software does not deliver the thing it was originally bought for. Hence, people are forced to go back to Indesign subscription while having already paid copy of Apub sitting useless on their computer.
In my opinion, the longer you keep doing this the more it begins to resemble cheating.

Serif, the thing you are doing is a questionable if not outright immoral marketing strategy - irrespective of whether it is conscious or not. 
With each passing month your hype of 'professional DTP' lures more and more new professionals into this end/footnote trap. They go through their different frustration phases but it seems practical to think that since the software was affordable I might use it for something else than end/footnote work. But this does not make go away the fact that the software does not deliver the thing it was originally bought for. Hence, people are forced to go back to Indesign subscription while having already paid copy of Apub sitting useless on their computer.
In my opinion, the longer you keep doing this the more it begins to resemble cheating.

This comprehensive list of previous footnote capable software makes me wonder: so, is this a choice to not implement it in APub? And if this is the case, how long must we wait to hear it from the company itself?
 

I agree 100 %. Without footnotes you simply cannot call it ’professional’ let alone ’next generation’. You just can’t. 

I concur totally. Come on Serif: how long are you going to keep us resorting to these bronze-age workarounds in a software that is supposed to be the next generation of professional desktop publishing? 

This is what baffles me. Affinity Publisher was released a year ago. I bought it right away. Now, a year later, I haven’t the slightest clue whether it is ever going to turn into the product I thought I was buying: a professional publishing software. Maybe it’s just me but the word ’professional’ indicates that footnote/endnote functionality is self-evident. 

However, even after 18 months are still left in complete darkness: it seems that we have no idea if this is going to be implemented at all. It is this total muteness that I find incomprehensible and disrespectful: we get to read so many advancements on other areas but this elementary topic of book publishing seems to be left in a permanent black hole. I work on a Mac, so I cannot resort to MS Publisher or PagePlus, so it is either Apub or the infamous InDesign subscription. I would whole-heartedly welcome an interim solution of endnotes or something like that. Main point is this: you cannot keep people in the dark forever. It is not fair. 

This is what baffles me. Affinity Publisher was released a year ago. I bought it right away. Now, a year later, I haven’t the slightest clue whether it is ever going to turn into the product I thought I was buying: a professional publishing software. Maybe it’s just me but the word ’professional’ indicates that footnote/endnote functionality is self-evident. 

This never occurred to me until now: I always assumed that the long delay and concomitant silence was due to technical problems or lack of coding resource or something like that but now I can’t help but entertain the thought that there is a strategy involved. Playing devil’s advocate, namely, wouldn’t it be also possible that this long silence on behalf of Serif is just waiting for this whole conversation to die out. If this is a strech it is IMO  a justified strech, because this is, after all, what you get by leaving your devotees completely in the dark for a long time. Nevertheless, at this point it would be desirable for Serif to release some sort of statement concerning this matter to prevent needless speculation and conspiracy theories. 

However, even after 18 months are still left in complete darkness: it seems that we have no idea if this is going to be implemented at all. It is this total muteness that I find incomprehensible and disrespectful: we get to read so many advancements on other areas but this elementary topic of book publishing seems to be left in a permanent black hole. I work on a Mac, so I cannot resort to MS Publisher or PagePlus, so it is either Apub or the infamous InDesign subscription. I would whole-heartedly welcome an interim solution of endnotes or something like that. Main point is this: you cannot keep people in the dark forever. It is not fair. 

Patrick, thank you for a response.
 
Dare I ask though: what is a ’long’ extension? Is there any sort of rough guestimate as to how long it will take? Years? 
 
Yours
 
Jakke

Patrick, thank you for a response.
 
Dare I ask though: what is a ’long’ extension? Is there any sort of rough guestimate as to how long it will take? Years? 
 
Yours
 
Jakke