Affinity for Linux

[LondonSquirrel]

1 minute ago, aronkvh said:

Sadly, it seems it's not worth it for the developers because of the low  market share.

Exactly! If the market was there, Affinity would make Linux versions. I've heard the arguments for about 20 years of the 'the year of the Linux desktop'. Waiting for Godot comes to mind, and of course Godot never turns up.

[LondonSquirrel]

Just now, aronkvh said:

you just won't stop will you

Stop what? Disabusing people? You yourself have now agreed with the crux of my argument, that the market share for the Linux desktop is small.

[Renzatic]

2 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

You could not back up anything you wrote with a single valid argument. It's not my problem, it's a general problem in the Linux 'community'.

[aronkvh]

and that's a feedback loop similar with ex. VR: less apps>less users>less apps

and also because of the open-source, donation nature of Linux the advertisement budget (basically none) will never be comparable to Apple or Microsoft; even tough imo the product very much is

[aronkvh]

1 minute ago, LondonSquirrel said:

Stop what?

nitpicking and talking about your general frustration with Linux and it's community not at all related to this topic

[LondonSquirrel]

1 minute ago, aronkvh said:

and that's a feedback loop similar with ex. VR: less apps>less users>less apps

and also because of the open-source, donation nature of Linux the advertisement budget (basically none) will never be comparable to Apple or Microsoft; even tough imo the product very much is

Agreed again.

[Vex]

11 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

Agreed. My final take on this is that Affinity on Linux is a non-starter. The market is just not there. If it was there, Adobe would be there.

And you've said this repeatedly. You aren't contributing anything, and I had to turn off notifications on this thread (and I wanted to stay updated) because you cannot stop bleating about how we're barking up a dead tree.

Your opinion has been noted. It has been deemed irrelevant by those of us who care about this subject. Thanks!

[LondonSquirrel]

1 minute ago, aronkvh said:

nitpicking and talking about your general frustration with Linux and it's community not at all related to this topic

I have encountered in this thread a lot of misguided and uninformed and totally incorrect information and posts from people who clearly do not know what they are writing about. They make bold statements about Linux which are easily disprovable in about 4 seconds. 

I will state it again: the Linux desktop market is so small that it's not worth worrying about. 

[LondonSquirrel]

2 minutes ago, ClairelyClaire said:

Your opinion has been noted. It has been deemed irrelevant by those of us who care about this subject. Thanks!

Some people do not like the truth. I can't help that.

[Snapseed]

15 hours ago, B-Interactive said:

I appreciate those recommendations @Snapseed.  I'll be interested to see how well Pixeluvo can handle PSD files, for my interactive development work.  It's an option I'll consider in any case, because I also do a lot of photography.

I do a substantial amount of photo editing, 95% of it is done purely in raw using RawTherapee, now that I've stepped away from Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw, which had been my go-to for years.  I have been relying on Affinity Photo for that last 5%'ish.  Things like panorama stitching, spot removal, finer localised adjustments, etc.  Maybe Pixeluvo can fill that gap.

 

My own experience is that Pixeluvo can open both PSD and DNG files.

Pixeluvo can be tested as a trial application and it can be used together with other native Linux softwares like Fotoxx and Hugin to achieve the desired result. This is only my own personal view but I also find that Fotoxx is much easier to use than Gimp.

[Renzatic]

9 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

I will state it again: the Linux desktop market is so small that it's not worth worrying about. 

Then why is it that some companies do? Epic, Unity, Adobe, Autodesk, SideFX, The Foundry, Black Magic Design, hell, I could go on...

There's a reason why Microsoft has spent all this time and money building WSL. There is a very lucrative market that is centered on Linux. The question is whether this market will go for the Affinity apps, since they cater to a group not normally represented on the Linux scene.

[Renzatic]

1 minute ago, Renzatic said:

Derp!

Delete this, mods! Hit quote instead of edit!

[m.vlad]

10 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

I will state it again: the Linux desktop market is so small that it's not worth worrying about. 

OK, you're free to leave then

[LondonSquirrel]

Just now, m.vlad said:

OK, you're free to leave then

No, I shall keep a watch on this thread for more misleading and wrong information and feel free to correct it as necessary.

[Vex]

4 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

Some people do not like the truth. I can't help that.

 ...except you're only sharing your opinion, not absolute fact. The *truth*  is that many in this thread have voiced support for Affinity on Linux. The *truth*  is that Linux is growing in popularity, evidenced by the objective *fact* that big companies like Microsoft, NVidia, and AMD invest engineering effort - which isn't cheap - to support Linux.

And much like you don't care about our position, I see no reason to care about yours. I'll continue to add my voice to the many suggesting Linux support, and maybe next time you can be considerate of the sincere participants and not derail the discussion with more self-aggrandizing "shut up, nobody cares" posts. 

It's ironic you have commented on how self-centered Linux users are. It seems you're the only one making this about you and what you want.

[LondonSquirrel]

Just now, ClairelyClaire said:

 ...except you're only sharing your opinion, not absolute fact.

Er, hello. Let me remind you of your facts: Desktop compositing didn't exit in Mac or PC before Linux. Neither did virtual desktops.

Both wrong. It's fine to be wrong, but when somebody points out the truth you should accept it.

[aronkvh]

5 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

feel free to correct it as necessary.

you shall not. you have already stated your opinions 10+ times very very clearly.

for everyone else: I feel like this discussion has reached where we could just stop replying to them

(as a sidenote I have to say how the insignificant WebKit was literally forked from the insignificantLinux browser's engine: KHTML)

[Vex]

4 minutes ago, m.vlad said:

OK, you're free to leave then

I used to have this cat who had a real spicy attitude. She'd come into a room full of people, flop down, and start rolling around on her back and flirting with everyone, putting all attention on her. But she ALSO liked talking big game and growled and hissed a lot.

If you removed her from the room, she came right back in, demanding attention.

i don't know why that just popped into my head...

[LondonSquirrel]

1 minute ago, ClairelyClaire said:

i don't know why that just popped into my head...

I have no idea either. It's not pertinent to Affinity on the Linux desktop.

[Vex]

1 minute ago, LondonSquirrel said:

Er, hello. Let me remind you of your facts: Desktop compositing didn't exit in Mac or PC before Linux. Neither did virtual desktops.

Both wrong. It's fine to be wrong, but when somebody points out the truth you should accept it.

sweetie, your position on the relevancy of Linux is an opinion not backed by fact. If you were actually objectively correct, businesses wouldn't be investing millions in desktop Linux support.

Your opinion has been noted and discarded.

[Renzatic]

4 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

Er, hello. Let me remind you of your facts: Desktop compositing didn't exit in Mac or PC before Linux. Neither did virtual desktops.

Turns out none of us were right. The Amiga was the first consumer platform to offer virtual desktops.

The fact that I went out and looked this up makes me feel like a total nerd, and you should be totally ashamed of yourself for doing this to me.

[Snapseed]

16 minutes ago, ClairelyClaire said:

And you've said this repeatedly. You aren't contributing anything, and I had to turn off notifications on this thread (and I wanted to stay updated) because you cannot stop bleating about how we're barking up a dead tree.

Your opinion has been noted. It has been deemed irrelevant by those of us who care about this subject. Thanks!

 

6 minutes ago, Renzatic said:

Then why is it that some companies do? Epic, Unity, Adobe, Autodesk, SideFX, The Foundry, Black Magic Design, hell, I could go on...

There's a reason why Microsoft has spent all this time and money building WSL. There is a very lucrative market that is centered on Linux. The question is whether this market will go for the Affinity apps, since they cater to a group not normally represented on the Linux scene.

 

3 minutes ago, m.vlad said:

OK, you're free to leave then

There are plenty of us who would like to see Affinity Photo and the two other Affinity softwares made available in native Linux format or via Wine.

Notwithstanding hostile contrarian forces, there is something constructive that we can do right now and that we can ask our contacts to do as well. That is to go over to WineHQ, join it, and then use your 3 casting votes (yes, you get 3!) to vote up Affinity Photo so that it moves up the ranking list to better attract the attention of Wine developers.

The required link is here - https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=39311

[LondonSquirrel]

Just now, Renzatic said:

The Amiga was the first to offer virtual desktops.

Before Xerox?

[Vex]

1 minute ago, LondonSquirrel said:

I have no idea either. It's not pertinent to Affinity on the Linux desktop.

Nor is your obsession with shutting down this discussion. Oh well!

[LondonSquirrel]

1 minute ago, Snapseed said:

there is something constructive that we can do right now

Finally a constructive comment... Well done. Wine might be the way to get Affinity running on Linux. It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing.