Advice

[Petar Petrenko]

Please, when working on Photo and Publisher, do not make the same mistake as Adobe. They implement same features, like Text tool for example, differently and even with different shortcuts. It is very difficult to work and remember all these features this way.

[TonyB]

The Text tool in Photo and Publisher will be the exact same tool. This is the benefit of our shared document and shared code strategy.

[paolo.limoncelli]

Hallelujah!  :lol: 

[retrograde]

Amen brother Tony  ;)

[Petar Petrenko]

Text tool was just for example. I mean for all features that are going to be shared between your three aplications.

[Petar Petrenko]

Or, maybe, it will be best if you merge all three aplications into one (code name Designer).  ;)

[peter]

They will share the same file format (af.design)

[Petar Petrenko]

But, they (will) share over 50% of features/code like Serif "...Plus" applications do. So, it will be very nice if it gonna be only one application. There are lots of advantages of this aproach:

 

1. less used resources (hard disk, RAM);

2. only one interface to learn;

3. only one file format;

4. no waste of time for import/export of files between apps;

5. all (three?) teams work together as one on only one app, not like Adobe (they are competition to each other);

6. faster new versions;

7. faster errors/bugs solving problems...

[retrograde]

No doubt, it will be very interesting to see all of this roll out.

[peter]

The analogue for this was code name paper  :P 

[peter]

But, they (will) share over 50% of features/code like Serif "...Plus" applications do. So, it will be very nice if it gonna be only one application. There are lots of advantages of this aproach:

 

1. less used resources (hard disk, RAM);

2. only one interface to learn;

3. only one file format;

4. no waste of time for import/export of files between apps;

5. all (three?) teams work together as one on only one app, not like Adobe (they are competition to each other);

6. faster new versions;

7. faster errors/bugs solving problems...

8. only one price...hmm I've just solved that lil ol' mystery Scooby Doo.

[Petar Petrenko]

I thought to put the price also as one of the reasons, but it could be the ONLY reason why there are three apps instead of one.

 

+1 for PAPER.

[Petar Petrenko]

To quote myself:

 

I thought to put the price also as one of the reasons, but it could be the ONLY reason why there are three apps instead of one.

 

The same reason qualifies for Adobes' apps, Sherifs' also...

[peter]

Some people think this all-in-one program is MS Word :(

[VectorCat]

The Text tool in Photo and Publisher will be the exact same tool. This is the benefit of our shared document and shared code strategy.

sweet..

[Ben]

Just to put this thread to rest - 

 

We have one main code base, and we have one file format - so there is no importing/exporting between our apps - you just open (or transfer) the file between our apps and it will just work - fully editable.

 

We will also only write a tool once - and where it is used by more than one app it will be the same tool in each app. It will be identical.

 

But, each app will have a specific purpose and have a subset of unique tools that fulfil that purpose. So, for example, photo manipulation tools will only appear in Affinity Photo.

 

Now, you wouldn't expect Adobe to roll all their Creative Suite into one app, would you!?

[VectorCat]

Just to put this thread to rest - 

 

We have one main code base, and we have one file format - so there is no importing/exporting between our apps - you just open (or transfer) the file between our apps and it will just work - fully editable.

 

We will also only write a tool once - and where it is used by more than one app it will be the same tool in each app. It will be identical.

 

But, each app will have a specific purpose and have a subset of unique tools that fulfil that purpose. So, for example, photo manipulation tools will only appear in Affinity Photo.

 

Now, you wouldn't expect Adobe to roll all their Creative Suite into one app, would you!?

 

 

Certainly not, and the way the Dev team have approached AD is clear to me that you're on a vastly superior path.

[Petar Petrenko]

@Ben: No, I don't expect all CS to be into one app, but ID, AI and PS -- yes. And, it will be fine if all three Afinity apps are merged into one. But it is my opinion, I don't expect that everybody will share it.

[peter]

Regarding the next two roll-outs: Photo and Publisher, will they also have two personas each, just like Designer. If so what will they be?

[TonyB]

Regarding the next two roll-outs: Photo and Publisher, will they also have two personas each, just like Designer. If so what will they be?

 

 

Photo will have multiple personas. Not too long a wait now to find out what they are  :)

[Jobalou]

@Ben: No, I don't expect all CS to be into one app, but ID, AI and PS -- yes. And, it will be fine if all three Afinity apps are merged into one. But it is my opinion, I don't expect that everybody will share it.

I don't agree.

For my professional use, I prefer separate apps.

[Ben]

Same here.  If I only wanted the features of PS, I wouldn't want to have to pay the inflated price for an uber app that offered me tools I would never use.  The separation gives people choice, and a clear purpose.  There's also the danger of a single app doing more things but not as well as individual focused apps.

 

You could even go as far as to say that PS in it's current state is far too wide ranging in its feature set. They've tried to get into too many markets, and the result is a little over complicated.  I know from working in the game industry, PS was used for creating 2D textures - no one would ever dream of doing any kind of direct 3D model texturing (there are very good tools people use for that), but now we see basic 3D features in PS that don't quite cut it.

[peter]

Photo will have multiple personas. Not too long a wait now to find out what they are  :)

Tease!

[retrograde]

I agree on the comments regarding keeping each app lean and responsive to each individual focus. PS's incursion into 3d is a glaring example.

[Petar Petrenko]

@Jobalou, Ben, Retrograde: Specifically in Adobe, after few years, they will sell us three apps (PS, AI and ID) with all the same possibilities but with different approach and shortcuts and we will have to pay for 3 apps instead for one. This could happen to Affinity, too. It will be better to pay, let say $100, for one app instead od $150 (3 x $50) for three.

What I want to say, many tools will be not duplicated but triplicated like in PS, AI and ID and in PagePlus, DrawPlus and PhotoPlus. So, why to pay more?

BTW, no one uses any app features for 100% without distinction of his/hers proffesional abilities.