awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Having computer issues right now on account of my C Drive being maxxed out !!! I looked into this and there's about 60GB of something in some .affinity folder - 60GB of what? I have a measly 250GB SSD on this PC along with a 2GB HD which is where I store all my documents relating to Affinity - I can't be having this software dumping a load of unnecessary crap in there - anyone know what might be going on here and how to fix it? I've got all my games and stuff installed on my HD and only a few things on the SSD - I see the Affinity Suite is one of them - is there a reason why this has to be installed there? The main programs only takes a few GB so it's not a problem but if it's going to be taking up 60GB in the background then I'd rather it was on my HDD How do I install and use this V2 suite properly because it's been a bit of a mystery since I upgraded - I'd like some say in where things are going on my computer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 I found the culprit - some file called PersonaBackstore.dat So what do I do with that - just delete it? How do I stop this happening again??? This is not good - asides from all the lag I'm getting (which may be my computer or maybe THIS could be what's causing issues on some game I also play?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 A restart seems to have got rid How do I set things to use my HDD for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 32 minutes ago, awakenedbyowls said: How do I set things to use my HDD for this? Installing applications (MSI/EXE) on another disk. Edited April 5 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, Pšenda said: Installing applications (MSI/EXE) on another disk. How do I set it so PersonaBackstore.dat is saved on my HDD - the main software can live on my C Drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 15 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Installing applications (MSI/EXE) on another disk. I did not notice that the file is not stored in the installation directory - the full path is not shown on the screenshot (it is only in the file properties). Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 58 minutes ago, Pšenda said: I did not notice that the file is not stored in the installation directory - the full path is not shown on the screenshot (it is only in the file properties). Enough is shown in the screenshot, to show that it's in the .affinity directory, such is all that's really needed for a solution. @awakenedbyowls: The .affinity directory is located in your Windows %USERPROFILE% directory, which is located on your C drive. You can move the .affinity directory, though it's probably not technically a supported configuration if you do so. When I've done this I've used symlinks, and it has worked acceptably for me. There's a set of instructions in the post below. Use the V2 instructions (second set): With symlinks there's a small performance hit, but not enough that I've found it to be noticeable. You could use a hardlink instead, and avoid that performance overhead, but I haven't tried it myself so i don't have any written instructions. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 16 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: The .affinity directory is located in your Windows %USERPROFILE% directory, which is located on your C drive. You can move the .affinity directory, though it's probably not technically a supported configuration if you do so. When I've done this I've used symlinks, and it has worked acceptably for me. There's a set of instructions in the post below. Use the V2 instructions (second set): That all sounds like a lot of tinkering under the hood - I don't know what you mean by "supported configuration" but if it means I stand a better chance of recovering files after a crash then I could just keep in mind not to let that file get too bloated - the app has crashed a couple of times in the past few days but that may be me using some previous documents containing a ridiculous amount of enormous pixel layers Alternatively maybe I could just uninstall everything and reinstall all of it on my HDD - I guess this involves one of the two different installers I don't really understand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 The “backupstore” is always located in you user profile, unrelated where the App itself is installed. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: The “backupstore” is always located in you user profile, unrelated where the App itself is installed. I'm sure this won't be an issue again if I'm careful and try to work a bit tidier 58gb still seems a bit excessive though - I really don't know how it ended up that large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Folkes Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I assume "backupstore" is for file recovery. It may be worth trying to increase the File Recovery Interval in Performance Settings in case it stores more than one copy of each file. It may also be worth lowering the Undo Limit, in case the history is also stored in there. Also, it may make sense not to have too many unsaved modified files open at once. (I may be wrong -- just guessing here). Quote Affinity latest stable version + beta on Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Disappointed Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 ⏸️ Quote I simply no longer believe that there are any professional graphic designers here. Everything follows suit. Just everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, awakenedbyowls said: Alternatively maybe I could just uninstall everything and reinstall all of it on my HDD - I guess this involves one of the two different installers I don't really understand ? As @NotMyFault said, by default that file (along with your other user data such as installed brushes, assets, styles, etc.) is always on drive C. Unless you tinker around under the covers (as I mentioned above) you have no choice about where it goes, even if you install the program someplace else. 1 hour ago, awakenedbyowls said: That all sounds like a lot of tinkering under the hood - I don't know what you mean by "supported configuration" Yes, it is tinkering under the hood. And by not being a supported configuration I mean that if following that recipe to setup symlinks or hardlinks causes something within Affinity to stop working, Serif might say "you shouldn't have done that, and we aren't going to modify the program to allow it". However, so far it has not caused any problems for me, and in the one case where I did find a program problem with that setup they fixed it because they agreed it was a bug. And, other than replacing your SSD with a larger one, or removing some other data from your C drive, it's the only thing you can do if that data is causing you to run out of space on your C drive. awakenedbyowls 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Me and tinkering under the hood of computers doesn't usually end well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphilpot Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 19 hours ago, awakenedbyowls said: Me and tinkering under the hood of computers doesn't usually end well It shouldn't be hard. Offhand I don't recall the syntax for creating a symlink on Windows, but it's not hard. Generically, the process would be something like: Make sure no Affinity app is running. Move the actual folders to wherever there's room, i.e., the new location (or copy then delete the original, just to be safe) In the original location, create a symlink(s) with the same exact name as the folder(s) you moved / deleted, but pointing to the new location instead Now when Windows, Photo, whatever, accesses those folders it will actually be accessing the ones in the new location, but it'll never know the difference. This technique is used all over the place by unix / Linux (in fact by many OSes). Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland https://www.flickr.com/photos/14015058@N07/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, lphilpot said: Offhand I don't recall the syntax for creating a symlink on Windows, See my linked post above Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphilpot Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: See my linked post above Ah ha... I'll blame it on trying to pack for our eclipse trip while replying... 🙂 walt.farrell 1 Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland https://www.flickr.com/photos/14015058@N07/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakenedbyowls Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 9 minutes ago, lphilpot said: Ah ha... I'll blame it on trying to pack for our eclipse trip while replying... 🙂 Nice I saw the one in 1999 in Reims in France - highly recommend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphilpot Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, awakenedbyowls said: I saw the one in 1999 in Reims in France - highly recommend it Every time I think about the crowds I lose all enthusiasm for the trip. After all, it's only 4 minutes out of an entire week... But we're paid up, so might as well go. Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland https://www.flickr.com/photos/14015058@N07/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/5/2024 at 4:08 PM, awakenedbyowls said: I found the culprit - some file called PersonaBackstore.dat There could well be more Powershell users can use this script. I got fed up with the lousy housekeeping so wrote this to report the extent of the crime. It's been extended and my version will delete the junk but I'm not sharing that in case it causes an eclipse or worse CheckAffinityClutterV1.ps1 Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, lphilpot said: Every time I think about the crowds I lose all enthusiasm for the trip. After all, it's only 4 minutes out of an entire week... But we're paid up, so might as well go. It'll be worth it, I think. Looks like cloudy weather here. We are planning to drive but it may not matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, debraspicher said: Looks like cloudy weather here. Same here in N. Texas; probably so overcast that we won't be able to see much of anything except a dark sky. debraspicher 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.2 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphilpot Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Then again, as I recall you Texans got to see Comet McNaught (C/2006 P1) in the daytime during early 2007 while farther east we were totally overcast for the entire apparition. And that's way cooler than an eclipse. 🙂 Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland https://www.flickr.com/photos/14015058@N07/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, R C-R said: Same here in N. Texas; probably so overcast that we won't be able to see much of anything except a dark sky. We may head that direction and hope there's a clearing. But if not, it's a day to get out and have a small adventure. On the plus side, I have filters now I can use for future solar shots... @Iphilpot I would've been living in the NE at the time (my husband's home state), but I do remember that. I don't think I have any photographs of it, just my memory. On topic: @awakenedbyowls If you are making use of OneDrive (built into Windows) at all, it is possible to move that to another disk as I have for every install of Windows. So that may free up quite a bit of space if you're using that a lot. I know not everyone uses it but surprisingly some I have talked to have, so I do often suggest that when system disk storage becomes a problem. I have never kept mine on the system drive (C:) as I'm on the 365 plan and I have quite a bit stored on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 hours ago, debraspicher said: We may head that direction and hope there's a clearing. But if not, it's a day to get out and have a small adventure. On the plus side, I have filters now I can use for future solar shots... According to a DFW TV station's usually reliable weather people, you would need to drive up north to just south of Little Rock, Arkansas for the best chance of a clear sky during the eclipse. The quickest route would probably be to take I-30. Several weeks ago we bought a 6 pack of 'eclipse glasses' from Amazon that supposedly were NASA approved so we could give a few pair away. Then about 4 days ago we got a notice from Amazon that they were not safe & they were refunding out money, so we ordered a 12 pack of ones that were (because they did not have anything left in smaller quantities) which arrived late Saturday night. So now we have enough to give away a bunch of them, but I'm not sure anybody will be interested. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.2 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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