ronnyb Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 The checked Checkboxes are not uncheckable.... is that supposed to be a Preference or Notification? A_B_C 1 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, macOS Sequoia 15.1 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 18.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 On all 3 desktop released apps I can change the options at will On all 3 beta apps I cant I suspect this "required feedback" is compulsory if you want to participate in the beta testing. (Windows 8.1) To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 That's always been my suspicion, too, Carl. They are forcing the upload of crash files for the beta versions, but we have a choice for the retail versions. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Curiously, I only see one of the checkboxes there, but that is how I was interpreting this also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, carl123 said: On all 3 desktop released apps I can change the options at will FWIW, on Macs (at least those running High Sierra or earlier) those preference options do not exist in any of the 3 retail apps. Those options are set globally in System Preferences > Security & Privacy > Privacy tab > Analytics. But I don't know if those settings apply to the betas, which of course are available only directly from Affinity. All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I fear I have to say I don’t like being forced to upload any stuff from my computer. Indeed I would like to have control over what I share. Not that I wouldn’t be against submitting crash reports (I would probably even tick the checkbox), but that’s a matter of principle. On 11/2/2019 at 6:52 AM, carl123 said: I suspect this "required feedback" is compulsory if you want to participate in the beta testing. Honestly, I would believe participating in the beta process is first of all a benefit for Serif. Nothing is more valuable to a software company than an lively beta testing community, isn’t it? Hence, I don’t fully understand why there should be something forced upon the user “in exchange” for the option to participate in beta testing. Does that make sense? ronnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Jon P Posted November 4, 2019 Staff Share Posted November 4, 2019 It is intentional that these options are disabled in beta builds, and we auto enable the sending of crash reports. This will always be optional in release builds, but as part of the agreement to use the betas it is something we enable, it can be quite helpful to us. A_B_C and R C-R 2 Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 4:19 PM, A_B_C said: ... I don’t fully understand why there should be something forced upon the user “in exchange” for the option to participate in beta testing... For myself, the automatic submission is fine. I don't remember how large the dumps can get, but if they can get large and I had a slow internet connection, I would likely care more. And besides. I use one particular software package (commercial release version) in order to support two clients where one has the option to not send usage and/or dump files: Unchecking the preference to not send those things disables the software. So with this wider perspective, Serif's decision is "kinder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Thanks for the clarification. As I said, I am not against sharing crash dumps, but personally, I would prefer to have the option to decide myself. At the same time, one shouldn’t make this a bigger issue as it actually is. There are indeed companies that are much more curious about what users do on their machines. Not to speak of social media services and the like. ronnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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