info-cg Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hi, we now use Affinity Designer 1.5.1.43. please advice about the line/bezier work of Affinity designer. we now confuse to use bezier work. 1) we design 2 rings/circles object as attachment: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-1.png --> we use 2 of the doughnut cicle mode. 2) we did add 2 small cicle to connect 2 big cicle as attachment: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-2.png ask1-bezier work_2 lings-3.png 3) after export it to .png that connect point will be the gray damage part(blue mark) as attachment: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-4.png can we integrate that big circle and small circle to one of integration object befer before export? or can you advice us other step/work for this damage issue? and, another work for the painting. we cannot find which menu and step to paint it 2 big circle object as attachment: *before paint: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-1.png *after paint: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-1-paint.png (we did paint this by another paint client, not use Affinity designer.) can you advice us other step/work for the painting in bezier object? info-cg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Well, there are certainly different ways to do this, but you could try it this way: Create two donut shapes, place accordingly Select both shapes and choose Layer > Geometry > Add Select the Node Tool and delete the inner nodes that define the negative space of the ring shape Put a triangle on top of the ring shape and choose Layer > Geometry > Subtract With the Corner Tool, select all four nodes at the gap you opened, create roundings For the solid version, leave it as it is For the stroked version, remove the fill and apply a stroke That should work … :) Alex NilsFinken and info-cg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Why not use the "pressure" property of the stroke? Cheers P. NilsFinken and info-cg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hmm … I had thought about this as well … but how to create the “hollow” version? Expand stroke … countless nodes … :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Simply don´t look at the nodes. :D Cheers P. info-cg and A_B_C 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Haha … :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yeah - sorry - what should I say? Unless Serif is able to fix it I´ll stay with Inkscape when clean code is required: Cheers P. info-cg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yeah - sorry - what should I say? Unless Serif isn´t able to fix it I´ll stay with Inkscape when clean code is required: Cheers P. :huh: I think you meant "If Serif isn't able to fix it" or "Unless Serif is able to fix it". ;) Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (Yeah, that is a pretty common mistake I fear I also commit very often … ;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sorry guys - not my native language actually. :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Not to worry, PixelPest! Many native English speakers fall into the "double negatives" trap. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info-cg Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hi, PixelPest. > Posted Today, 05:42 PM > Why not use the "pressure" property of the stroke? I did try it the stroke mode after made a doughnut as your screen shot: PressureProperty.jpg, but still cannot change to my design shape as your sample of black doughnut using "pressure" small window setup. I adjust my "pressure" small window by 4 points setup as this screen shot: ask1-bezier work_2 lings-2-paint.png but, my sample red doughnut does not change as your chape of sample black doughnut. please let us know details of that how do I touch the stroke menu or Fill of Elipse or other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info-cg Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hi, A_B_C. I will try it geometry, node, as your advice. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just riffing off of the pressure profile method.... I saved as an svg and reduced the points. See image for the steps. Not too terrible a result. (expand stroke > smooth also works, (although not as well in terms of final # of points), but is much more of a crap shoot when it comes to shape retention.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info-cg Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hi, JimmyJack. > Just riffing off of the pressure profile method.... > > I saved as an svg and reduced the points. thanks for it sample. but, we still ask about how do we make that shape ring as this screen shot: "ring2.png" please let me see how steps to make this shape ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Like so? Cheers P. info-cg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info-cg Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hi thanks. bytheway, please let me see detail about more steps of same the sample as open svg and select all nodes and convert........ smooth curve.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Because the shape is quite trivial I´d draw the 7 points of one half manually with some helper-objects for precise alignment; double, mirror and join curves for an unbeatable low point resolution of 12 points which make it straight into an SVG export file: Cheers P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hand draw is often most efficient. 10 nodes to define: Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Yet another way to do this, using the Corner Tool & some other (quirky) stuff: After creating an unfilled donut with a stroke in step one, in step two I used the Corner Tool on the top four nodes to round the ends. The exact radius does not seem to matter -- one it gets very large the ends are as round as they can get. Even though in step two the donut becomes a curve according to the Layers panel, the Context toolbar still offers the Convert to Curves button, which I did in step three. (quirk 1) In step three the Node tool reveals quirk 2 -- there are now more nodes than needed on the rounded ends. So in step 4, I selected the two 'extra' nodes & deleted them while holding down the Alt/Option key, which (usually & sometimes approximately) preserves the curve of the shape between the two adjacent remaining nodes. In step five, for the two inner mid-point nodes, I used an expression in the Transform panel to move them the same relative distance, in this example "x-8" for the left one & "x+8" for the right one for their x value. (Note that these are literal expressions -- don't add the quotes or px to the text, just these characters.) I adjusted the bottom inside node downward manually using the shift key to constrain it to the vertical to complete the shape. It is a 12 node solution, so not quite as economical as gdenby's 10 node one, but it is reasonably precise & also exports to SVG cleanly, without adding any extra nodes. ring steps.afdesign info-cg 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It is a 12 node solution, so not quite as economical as gdenby's 10 node one, but it is reasonably precise & also exports to SVG cleanly, without adding any extra nodes. Place an appropriate sized object, or guidelines, in the gap. Delete the nodes between the upper and lower ends. Pull the line out till the curve reaches the object placed in the gap. Ta-da! 2 less nodes. What would be fun finding the structure that would get it down to 6 nodes. None at the mid line. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Place an appropriate sized object, or guidelines, in the gap. Delete the nodes between the upper and lower ends. Pull the line out till the curve reaches the object placed in the gap. Ta-da! 2 less nodes. What would be fun finding the structure that would get it down to 6 nodes. None at the mid line. I have tried that (assuming I understand what you did) but comparing the results to what I did shows some differences in the shape of the curve around the ends because there does not seem to be any way to guarantee that the control handles of the nodes adjacent to the pulled out section won't change the shape of the curve, on one or both sides of those nodes. The difference might be small, but zoomed in far enough it is visible. What would be fun finding the structure that would get it down to 6 nodes. None at the mid line. I suspect that is not possible because there would not be enough of them to control the width at the midline independently of the bottom & top sections ... but if you or anyone else can manage that I would like to see how it is done. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'll give it a go. :) info-cg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'll give it a go. :) Looks good, but I don't think it would work if the inside top radii needed to be curved more like in PixelPest's post #5 & the midpoint thickness needed to be adjusted independently of the rest of the shape. There is probably some fancy topological analysis that could determine the minimum number of nodes for this sort of thing but I have no idea how it would work. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Ha! Not sure how #5 became the acid test :D . ..... but okay, here's a side by side. Certainly, no one is suggesting that an outline of Texas can be done with just six nodes. But the shape in this particular limbo dance challenge seems doable. Barely ;) . ahnay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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