Kelps Leite de Sousa Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 First of all, congratulations on the release of Affinity Designer for Windows! Now my burning question: Is there any change Designer and Photo will be published in the Windows Store? If so, what is the timeframe? I think it would be awesome to be amongst the first to publish full desktop apps in the Windows Store, specially before Adobe does it (since Photoshop was already demonstrated as a store app but has not been published there yet). I am a software developer and as far as I can tell there isn't any technical impediments for publishing it in the Store. The only things that are not supported for desktop apps in the Windows Store are device drivers and windows services. It would certainly be my preferred way to purchase it! I love how clean and safe the Store makes it to install and remove apps, not to mention the auto updates and how it takes care of licensing. I'll buy it anyway, but I really don't want to buy now from Serif's site, only to have it be available in the Windows Store shortly. Of course, that would not be an issue at all if users that buy from Serif site now could get a code for the Windows Store later. It will be a shame if this great app isn't made available in the Windows Store, specially since the Mac version is in the iTunes Store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The store is designed for UWP apps, but the Affinity apps aren't UWP apps. There is a project centennial from Microsoft that can convert native desktop apps into Store apps, but we haven't tried it. Right now, we don't really see a need to go on the Store, as it would cost us 30% of each sale, without any obvious benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelps Leite de Sousa Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 Centennial doesn't "convert" the app. It just repackages it in the appx format for the Store. Depending on the software you're using to create the install package, it may already be capable of outputting the Store package (I know WixToolset and a couple of other installers are already supporting it). (I am a software developer and former Microsoft MVP for Client Dev ;) ) I understand the problem with the 30% cut, but doesn't that also happen in the iTunes Store? Microsoft may even be willing to make some kind of deal if they see this as an opportunity to promote full desktop apps in the Store. I was just thinking that it would be really cool and a lot simpler to acquire the apps and keep'em up to date for many users by using the Store. Maybe sometime from now, after the first waves after launch have ended #fingerscrossed Anyway, as I said before, I'll buy it anyway (probably tonight, as a matter of fact). Thanks for the answer Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novak Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Would love to see Continuum supporting AD and AP UWP apps, would be great but yea, there's no real benefit to developers to make it up for those 30%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONES Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 As a new product, why wasn't it developed on the UWP? I'd have thought it would be a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 19, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 19, 2016 BONES, Welcome to the Serif Affinity forum :) As I understand it UWP doesn't offer programmers enough flexibility for a programme that is best suited to a multi-panel UI. What we have now is a programme which closely matches the Mac version and documentation, which is impossible in UWP. Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Andy Somerfield Posted November 19, 2016 Staff Share Posted November 19, 2016 BONES, UWP presently lacks some startling fundamental capabilities - the ability to have a floating window being the most apparent! Don't get me wrong - UWP is the right direction - it's just not ready yet.. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 UWP presently lacks some startling fundamental capabilities I presume it's the lack of those capabilities that you find startling, Andy, not the capabilities themselves! :P Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONES Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 UWP presently lacks some startling fundamental capabilities - the ability to have a floating window being the most apparent! Don't get me wrong - UWP is the right direction - it's just not ready yet.. As an absolute hater of floating windows, I cannot help but see this as a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelps Leite de Sousa Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 This just happened:Adobe Photoshop Elements 15 hits the Windows Store And it is even discounted (until December 1st). Here is the store link for the US market (change the location in the url if you're not in the US, like me): Adobe Photoshop Elements 15 That makes me want to see Affinity there even more. I know the Adobe "Elements" line is the consumer stuff, not the Pro, but this is just the first and Adobe already announced in a previous Microsoft event that they plan on also putting the pro stuff in the store eventually, but would start with "Elements". From what I heard (from connected friends), what was preventing them from adding Pro before was the subscription model, but that now is an option in the Store and they are supposedly working on integrating it into the app for a vNext. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnettgs Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Sorry guys but I do not see what's the fuss of putting AD on the Windows Store, when you could get it directly from Serif? :unsure: I have Windows 10 but I rarely use Windows Store as I have found the apps are intended for use with portable devices with limited control and settings, it isn't the same thing as full desktop apps. Only thing I find it useful is gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max tsukino Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Sorry guys but I do not see what's the fuss of putting AD on the Windows Store, when you could get it directly from Serif? :unsure: I have Windows 10 but I rarely use Windows Store as I have found the apps are intended for use with portable devices with limited control and settings, it isn't the same thing as full desktop apps. Only thing I find it useful is gaming. unscientific, totally anecdotic, but maybe could be of use ---> Two apps that I use released versions on the windows store... Evernote and Kodi. At first it sounds like a good idea and a timesaver. But it seems that the format brings a lot of issues re paths. I had a lot of problems with Kodi because of that... In the case of Evernote, the Firefox web clipper was simply useless... Maybe UWP is the way of the future, but maybe it needs a lot of work still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrPx Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 30% of each sale, when the apps here are already such a bargain? Wow, please no. I'd totally recommend it if I worked at MS and my boss told me to, but for other reasons...I see absolutely no need. Plus, I feel like loosing freedom and flexibility, with all these apps global shop things. I experienced it with the iPad and I don't really like it.. I can see the convenience (maybe) for developers, but in this case, I don't see it... I so much prefer to go myself to each developer author's site, dig well the place, with no middle man getting a cut, etc...Maybe I'm old fashioned. Alfred 1 Quote AD, AP and APub. V1.10.6 (not using v1.x anymore) and V2.4.x. Windows 10 and Windows 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 As an absolute hater of floating windows, I cannot help but see this as a good thing. Floating windows give users the ability to put tool palettes & panels wherever they want on the screen (or even on a second or third screen), to collapse (minimize) panels without affecting the position of any others, & to position multiple document windows & views of the same document side by side or wherever else they want for comparison or other workflow related purposes. You certainly do not have to use them but I suspect most users would consider it a very bad thing if the Affinity apps did not support them. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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