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I am now using Affinity for my software development and landscape photography. Like others I miss a DAM feature that support afphoto files.

I am using Bridge and Excire, and my solution so far is to export to a TIFF file instead of saving it to a .afphoto file. This seems to be working with different DAM software,

Is there any downside using this method, or exporting to TIFF?

Regards

Jan

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Hi Eiketre,

As far as I'm aware there shouldn't be any downsides to this etc :)

Thanks
C

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16 hours ago, eiketre said:

export to a TIFF file instead of saving it to a .afphoto file

 

16 hours ago, eiketre said:

Is there any downside using this method

It depends on what adjustments and modifications you make to your images. The native format preserves all layers, adjustments and filters (live), so modifications to the original are/can be done non-destructively, making it possible to modify them at any time. Therefore, it is often worthwhile to save the native file with all modifications, and export only for sharing.

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5 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

It depends on what adjustments and modifications you make to your images. The native format preserves all layers, adjustments and filters (live), so modifications to the original are/can be done non-destructively, making it possible to modify them at any time. Therefore, it is often worthwhile to save the native file with all modifications, and export only for sharing.

With a TIFF Export, you can save all the Affinity layers, too. This basically gives you a TIFF file with a .afphoto file embedded in it, which Affinity Photo can use later if you reopen the TIFF file in Photo. Other applications will simply ignore the data they don't recognize.

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5 minutes ago, UweN said:

Hello,
I don't know your requirements for a DAM but both Daminion and IMatch can import, display and tag AfPhoto files.
Greetings, Uwe

I have been looking at Daminion and IMatch but I use Mac and those are for windows. I like Excire 2024 a lot and I have requested them to support afphoto files. Until they do I am using tiff. 

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12 minutes ago, eiketre said:

I have been looking at Daminion and IMatch but I use Mac and those are for windows. I like Excire 2024 a lot and I have requested them to support afphoto files. Until they do I am using tiff. 

You might check XnViewMP.

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4 hours ago, eiketre said:

Finally I am only using Affinity

You will need to be careful not to edit those TIFF files in other applications, though. And it will be difficult to tell which of your TIFF files were created by Affinity applications with the Affinity layers included, and which are more generic TIFF files. I think that's one significant advantage of working with .afphoto files, instead.

If you do edit them in other applications, then those applications will change the basic TIFF image layer that's in the file, but should leave the Affinity data alone when you do a Save. But when you reopen the TIFF file in Affinity, the changes made by the other application will be ignored. For example, here's such a TIFF updated by Microsoft Paint (left), and what the modified image looks like when reopened in Affinity Photo (right). Note that the red brush stroke is not present, as far as Photo is concerned.

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On 5/10/2024 at 5:12 PM, walt.farrell said:

If you do edit them in other applications, then those applications will change the basic TIFF image layer that's in the file, but should leave the Affinity data alone when you do a Save.

Don't trust that any software has this implemented correctly. Check it first.

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1 hour ago, kaffeeundsalz said:

Don't trust that any software has this implemented correctly. Check it first.

True. MS Paint seems to do it as I described.

And I think that's the expected function for all applications that support TIFF. I was pleasantly surprised that it held true for Save As, in addition to Save.

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On 5/7/2024 at 8:52 PM, eiketre said:

Hi

I am now using Affinity for my software development and landscape photography. Like others I miss a DAM feature that support afphoto files.

I am using Bridge and Excire, and my solution so far is to export to a TIFF file instead of saving it to a .afphoto file. This seems to be working with different DAM software,

Is there any downside using this method, or exporting to TIFF?

Regards

Jan

I’m using ApolloOne as file browser (Mac only). It integrates with Finder metadata. So I can also perform searches with Finder or spotlight. 
 

An Advanced option is Pixlpath which has its own catalog. Highly polished and worth a look. It also shows the affinity previews. 

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