Michelle Wilson Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 Is there any place where you can put the number to a color in so you can use that specific one for a design? example I need to use this color number I was given: #d6b7b5 but I cannot find a place to put it. Quote
Old Bruce Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michelle Wilson said: I cannot find a place to put it. RGB Hex colour picker NotMyFault and Michelle Wilson 1 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Old Bruce Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BofG said: Anyone allergic to pedantry should stop reading here. And here is me feeling all proud that I winkled out the meaning of the question. [wry yet smug smiley face emoticon] Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
NotMyFault Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 All true what said before. Those hex color numbers are used only with RGB / sRGB color profile. No sane person would use them (without explicit mentioning) in other color formats. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
R C-R Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 3 hours ago, BofG said: That is not a colour number, it's just three hexadecimal values concatenated. So what is a "color number"? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Michelle Wilson Posted June 6, 2022 Author Posted June 6, 2022 My friend had business cards made. I am making a tumbler for her and she wants to use the font color from her card. So she gave me the number of the color that her person used. I’m new to design so I don’t know how else to reference it. Quote
Ron P. Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 What you were provide is more commonly called a Hex Code, which apparently is different than a color number. Old Bruce provided a location in Affinity apps where that Hex Code can be entered. The others were just being technical when stating the Hex code is not a color number. Michelle Wilson 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.6..; Affinity Designer 2.6..; Affinity Publisher 2.6..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win11 Home Version:24H2, Build: 26100.1742: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD; Wacom Intuos 3 PTZ-431W
Ron P. Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, R C-R said: So what is a "color number"? I too am curious to what is a color number. I mean I don't want to fall into NotMyFault's category of being insane.. Quote Affinity Photo 2.6..; Affinity Designer 2.6..; Affinity Publisher 2.6..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win11 Home Version:24H2, Build: 26100.1742: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD; Wacom Intuos 3 PTZ-431W
carl123 Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Michelle Wilson said: I’m new to design so I don’t know how else to reference it. Hexadecimal Colour Code or for the cool kids... Hex Colour Code Use either one and people will instantly know what you are referring to Typically shortened to Hex Code or Hex Colour for experienced users or those that work in the industry Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Michelle Wilson Posted June 6, 2022 Author Posted June 6, 2022 Thanks Ron. I didn’t know what to call it, but obviously someone knew what I was talking about because they told me where to look and I was able to do what I needed to do! 🤷🏻♀️I appreciate all the feedback! Quote
thomaso Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 15 hours ago, BofG said: Anyone allergic to pedantry should stop reading here. That is not a colour number, it's just three hexadecimal values concatenated. 6 hours ago, BofG said: Any of the CIE formats (e.g. L*a*b*, XYZ), those are device independent and instead relate to a human standard observer. 6 hours ago, BofG said: Those weren't printed with RGB inks 6 hours ago, BofG said: Now that I've said all that it will probably come out 100% the same All this appears quite irritating and rather misleading than being useful for this topic. (to me it is not "pedantry" but confusion.) @BofG, at least when writing "a human standard observer" I would expect you to wonder yourself about the theoretical approach of any objective, real, true, unambiguous judgement of a certain colour by a human. Not only it is the human only which develops, requires and fails in color reception and thus in definition, it is also a well known and often communicated issue where this chess board example is just one of many existing visualisations. – Compare the colour in the fields A and B … and then decide if LAB would make anything more clear than e.g. Hex Code to define the gray as numerical values. Especially in DTP colour always depends on a complex system of various involved instruments, both hardware related (e.g. monitor, paper) and software related (e.g. calibration, profile), if print is involved it gets more complex simply because of the subtractive vs. additive property of colour. Thus colour is rather like language which requires a certain and known dictionary to be able to communicate specific information in an unambiguous way. Like words never have 1 unique meaning (e.g. "green", "tree", "hope") also colours depend on influences on the senders AND the receivers part (= screen / paper > eye). If more than 1 language is involved it gets even more complicated and may even appear impossible to achieve a "perfect" (true, correct, exact) translation. – Colour always requires a translation between at least two systems (~ "languages"). So it is no wonder and also an indicator for the ambiguity of colour that humans need so many differing systems and units. Colour can be described (> defined) as angle (degree), distance (wavelenghts, nanometer), temperatur (Kelvin), … electricity, reflectance, etc. (maybe volume or weight, too?)… and finally there is no 1 "true" system, measurement or unit but many. Back to your mentioned "independency" as an advantage of LAB for the OP in this topic: It wouldn't solve the problem of required conversion from screen to paper, respectively the use of a certain profile. Below the LAB values are maintained if the document's space changes from RGB to CMYK ot graycale – but the colours …? Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
NotMyFault Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 16 hours ago, NotMyFault said: No sane person would use them (without explicit mentioning) in other color formats. My statement might be irritating. In the past 2 decades, the sRGB color model dominated the web (http browser, jpeg images, gif images, png images etc), and most color values were given in that context. There was even the de-facto standard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors and Web-safe colors (inside that link) There are numerous other color formats and profiles. Everyone is free to give a color code (normally just meaning the brightness value per channel). If no other context is given (explicitly mentioning color profile or whatever system is used to interpret the numeric values), it is quite common sense to assume sRGB. Of course, in the print dominated world there is AdobeRGB, and CMYK colors. the issue with that is there is no common standard. You have numerous, so it is impossible to interpret color numbers without explicitly getting what CMYC color model is used. The first answer to the OP question by bruce is all what the OP needs. The rest of this thread is actually deviating into academic irrelevance (for practical purposes). Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
thomaso Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Michelle Wilson said: I didn’t know what to call it, but obviously someone knew what I was talking about because they told me where to look and I was able to do what I needed to do! Hex-RGB translation is a quite common question or task, accordingly there a quite a few tools online for such a calculation, for instance… https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/color/hex-to-rgb.html 32 minutes ago, BofG said: You didn't stop reading where it said to When "pedantry" was announced I expected more detailed, more precise information on the specific, initial problem of this thread. But your LAB excursion is simply any detail without any practical or theoretical benefit to the OP's question – not the promised pedantry. 🤓 Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
NotMyFault Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 https://hexwords.netlify.app/ another example how hex codes are used for RGB colors (and more 🤓) v_kyr 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
thomaso Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 6:10 PM, BofG said: Anyway, my whole point is that people think e.g. #99347C is a particular colour. It is not, it is values for the three channels. The colour produced is down to the profile used. Well, which colour definition / appearance is NOT "down to the profile used"? – The more misleading, useless part came later in your idea of "pedantry" by stating LAB color definition as "independent" … On 6/6/2022 at 7:07 AM, BofG said: On 6/6/2022 at 1:12 AM, R C-R said: So what is a "color number"? Any of the CIE formats (e.g. L*a*b*, XYZ), those are device independent and instead relate to a human standard observer. Use those values and you are describing an actual colour. … and thus ignoring that also a colour set in Affinity as LAB can change its look with a profile switch and thus for this "color question" topic LAB is neither more nor less independent than hex. Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
thomaso Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, BofG said: used in spectrophotometers and in the profile connection space precisely because they are profile independant. There is no "objective" colour. Also spectrophotometers need calibration to work valid and reliable – and thus depend on profiles. Even a certain light colour (e.g. 6500 Kelvin) is based on a profile in a process of judging / measuring / defining colour. Compare page 48 – 55: https://www.heidelberg.com/global/media/en/global_media/products___prinect/products___prinect_topics/pdf_1/color_quality.pdf However, all your ideas in this thread about LAB, L*a*b* or CIE aren't "pedantry" but just an excursion to a quite different topic. Or, as @NotMyFault pointed out before, entirely irrelevant and of no practical use in this thread. It even appears you already have been well aware of this when you mentioned: On 6/6/2022 at 7:09 AM, BofG said: Those weren't printed with RGB inks … just without mentioning: "Those weren't printed with LAB inks, too. " … More of this type of "pedantry" alias "water up the hill": Colour does not exist – it is only electromagnetic radio wave. Can't you hear it? … Final outing: What LAB values would represent this "new black in the block"? https://news.mit.edu/2019/blackest-black-material-cnt-0913 Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
Old Bruce Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, thomaso said: is only electromagnetic radio wave. Can't you hear it? Only on my Colour Radio, the black and white one is monophonic. R C-R and thomaso 1 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
Cameraman1649 Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 SO HOW does one use the hexadecimal codes to pull up desired colors in Affinity Photo 2? Is there a tutorial...? Thank You! -- Kent O. Quote
R C-R Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Cameraman1649 said: SO HOW does one use the hexadecimal codes to pull up desired colors in Affinity Photo 2? Are you asking about using the Info panel, the Color panel, or something else? Also, what do you mean by "pull up"? Are you looking for a way to apply a color specified in hex or something else? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Cameraman1649 Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 I need to create a background of a specific color. I want to enter the hex code and be able to Fill the panel with the exact color. Thank You! Quote
R C-R Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, Cameraman1649 said: I need to create a background of a specific color. I want to enter the hex code and be able to Fill the panel with the exact color. In the Color panel, switch to RGB Hex like @Old Bruce suggested here, & then enter the hex code in the field next to the #: label. Or double-click on a color well to bring up the Color Chooser window & enter it there. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Cameraman1649 Posted November 19, 2024 Posted November 19, 2024 11 minutes ago, R C-R said: In the Color panel, switch to RGB Hex like @Old Bruce suggested here, & then enter the hex code in the field next to the #: label. Or double-click on a color well to bring up the Color Chooser window & enter it there. MANY THANKS! I must leave now, but I'll try this as soon as I return. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 13 hours ago, Cameraman1649 said: MANY THANKS! I must leave now, but I'll try this as soon as I return. But be aware that using a "hex code" may not give you what you want. The exact color it gives you will depend on what ICC profile you have specified for the document, and what ICC profile you specify when you Export the file. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
Cameraman1649 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I AM WAY BEHIND on this. Can you steer me to some valuable info on the workings of ICC? Many Thanks! Quote
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