Rebelartist Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 I've written an Art instruction book in Publisher. Now I need a proofreader/ editor to catch my grammar issues etc. Somebody please help me! Sorry if this is the wrong place to put this. Example pages attached Quote
GarryP Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Welcome to the forums @Rebelartist I think you may be breaking the rules of the site with this thread: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/guidelines/ A moderator will probably give you further guidance. Leigh and Jenna Appleseed 2 Quote
IanSG Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, GarryP said: Welcome to the forums @Rebelartist I think you may be breaking the rules of the site with this thread: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/guidelines/ A moderator will probably give you further guidance. I know we've seen similar requests before, and this is the standard response, but is asking for help with finding (e.g.) a proof reader any different from asking about (e.g.) DAMs? Leigh 1 Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10
GarryP Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 There’s a fine line with this sort of thing and I don’t know which side of that line this particular thread comes down on, which is why I said that a moderator might have a better response. As you say, there have been many requests in the forums for “Can someone suggest an application/service which can do <this>?” that have not been stopped by the moderators so it’s difficult for me to say what Serif want from the forums in this way. I think all we users can do is make the OP aware that there might be a problem with the posting and let Serif do, or not do, something about it as they see fit. Leigh 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 One consideration in this case is that the OP is not asking for help using an Affinity application, nor is the book about an Affinity application. Any proofreader would be able to proofread the book, with no knowledge of Affinity at all. Potentially the proofreader does not even need art knowledge. Thus the question seems totally irrelevant to this forum. Jenna Appleseed and Leigh 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
thomaso Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, IanSG said: is asking for help with finding (e.g.) a proof reader any different from asking about (e.g.) DAMs? Though both requests have in common that answers can alternatively be done with a search outside the forum (internet, professional magazines) the request for a proofreader is asking for someone who does the job whereas a requested software would enable me to do the job myself. Asking for a proofreader feels rather like asking for a designer (e.g. "who can create a logo for me?"). Inside Affinity forums I would expect it rather in a "Share…" than in this "How to…" forum. Additionally, for proofreading the topic's condition "familiar with APub" doesn't sound useful, imho. Proofreading should always happen with the output data (e.g. a print pdf), not inside the layout application, for instance to avoid issues which might occur on export only (e.g. font issues, layout mistakes). Jenna Appleseed and Leigh 2 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Wosven Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Aside from the forum rules... @Rebelartist You'd rather find a proofreader able to do a good job, and you just need to send her/him a PDF. Then, (s)he'll send you an annoted PDF or another document listing the required modifications, and asking you to validate some changes in text when (s)he'll find it need rephrasing. And YOU'll do the corrections carefully in APub, to get you document perfect. If you're lucky, you'll have also comments about the document, the chapters or paragraphs order, etc., it's more a publisher's job, but external advices are always useful. Jenna Appleseed and Leigh 2 Quote
Staff Leigh Posted January 20, 2022 Staff Posted January 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Rebelartist said: I've written an Art instruction book in Publisher. Now I need a proofreader/ editor to catch my grammar issues etc. Somebody please help me! Not sure if you're wanting to pay for this service but it's against our guidelines to do so through the forum. However, I don't see the issue with you asking other users to recommend or share their experiences with third party proofreading services but we do not support or endorse any of the opinions expressed 😅 As @thomaso and @Wosven have already mentioned above, you would be better off searching outside of this forum for a good proofreader and send them a PDF version of your document. Jenna Appleseed 1 Quote
IanSG Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 All good points - thanks! Leigh 1 Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10
Rebelartist Posted January 21, 2022 Author Posted January 21, 2022 Thanks guys, sorry to bother you all. I really appreciate the idea of finding an outside proofreader an doing my own edits from there. Doh, makes a lot of sense cheers @Wosven and the rest of you 😁 I love Publisher btw. I've sort of taught myself the program as I did the book. My idea was to write and design the book at the same time and I'm happy with the result so far! Quote
thomaso Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 1st corr.: there are no page numbers page 4 reminds me to https://www.kunstaufraeumen.ch/en/ Wosven and Gignero 1 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Alfred Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 8 hours ago, thomaso said: 1st corr.: there are no page numbers That being the case … 8 hours ago, thomaso said: page 4 reminds me to https://www.kunstaufraeumen.ch/en/ … what do you mean by “page 4”? Thanks for the amusing link! Wosven 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Wosven Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 I try to avoid singles words on a line, at the end of paragraphs. Quote
William Overington Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 I started to read it and I had never as best I remember heard of Notan before, so this thread has helped me to learn about something. As it happens i am trying to read the pages on a 13 inch labtop computer and i am having to move really close to the screen. I cannot read the captions under the pictures. Is there a reason why the text of the captions is smaller than the text of the paragraphs? Maybe it works better like that. So I am wondering what page size the book is to have. As for page numbers, would they look out of place in this book. Does an art book need to have page numbers? I like the way that the pictures are set out with the text. William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England.
walt.farrell Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, William Overington said: Is there a reason why the text of the captions is smaller than the text of the paragraphs? Maybe it works better like that. That's pretty standard in most books I've seen, as far as I recall. William Overington 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Alfred Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, William Overington said: As it happens i am trying to read the pages on a 13 inch labtop computer and i am having to move really close to the screen. Recent versions of Windows have a built-in screen magnifier. William Overington 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Wosven Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, William Overington said: 1. As it happens i am trying to read the pages on a 13 inch labtop computer and i am having to move really close to the screen. 2. I cannot read the captions under the pictures. Is there a reason why the text of the captions is smaller than the text of the paragraphs? Maybe it works better like that. 1. So I am wondering what page size the book is to have. 3. As for page numbers, would they look out of place in this book. Does an art book need to have page numbers? 1. You should look t the orignal image (opening it in another tab), and it'll be easier to read. Small screen aren't usually the best to read (especially image), and file type we can easily zoom in, like PDF, that have vectors for text are better. The screen shots don't give a clue, but usually art/photography, etc. books are larger than pocket books, to display large illustrations. 2. Captions, being less important than the regular text, are always or usually smaller than the body text. That's part of the hierarchy of the text, giving the bigger size to the most important parts: book title > chapter titles (or different titles, hence the usual header 1, header 2, etc.) > subtitles > regular text > Captions > Copyrights… 3. Every book need page numbers, or you won't be able to add a table of contents, refer to its content, etc. Even epub get them sometimes, not visible but in the code as anchors or dislayed by the reader app, and if people use the same size for text, they can have similar pages. I suppose such things are used today when studying, so teacher and students can look at the same page when using modern devices William Overington 1 Quote
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