William Overington

I loaded the file into Affinity Designer this morning, not to change anything. I noticed that there is now a new update available. I produced the document yesterday using version 1.9.0. I do not know if that makes any difference to this example, but here it is anyway. William test of bleed area 2afdesign.afdesign

Thank you for posting. The left edge of what was on the screen for the first one, I had got show bleed area ticked by default rather than my intention, but it seems that somehow, possibly by me getting it muddled, the bleed area was not shown on the screen. I have never used artboards. I have just had a quick look to find out what they are. I'll try again now, from the start. I have tried it again and I cannot get it to work as far as I can tell. This time I used 7 inches tall by 5 inches wide and used a bleed area 0.25 inches wide on each edge and a watercolour brush that is blue. Here is the result. I am not going to leap to a conclusion that there is a bug, but could you possibly test it and observe what happens please? William

Interestingly I noticed that Paint gives the background colour as r=255, g=250, b=247. Why is that please? Is it to do with the CMYK format or is it a built-in feature of Designer, or maybe I am using a default setting? William

I have now produced a Designer document using pixel measurements that is portrait format 1571 pixels wide and 2171 pixels high with no bleed areas. I drew, using the touch pad on my laptop computer, an arc using a green watercolour brush, almost up to the left edge of the document, then exported as a jpg file. I then loaded the jpg file into Microsoft Paint and simulated (though just on the leftside edge) the Papier bleed area physical card trimming process, by horizontally flipping the image and reducing the width to 1535 pixels, then horizontally flipping again. It worked well, I got green paint up to the edge. Here is the jpg as exported from Designer. William

I am not expert in using Designer, essentially a beginner, and I am not professionally trained in printing terminology. I am enjoying producing what are notionally custom photo greetings cards, yet I am using computer generated artwork. Thus far I have produced two, the first of which arrived here a while ago and is now framed and displayed on a wall of my home and the second one is in the post on its way here. I am, essentially, pushing the envelope on what are everyday greetings cards as if they are art prints. They also do art prints that are dearer and if I can get good at producing artwork I might well buy one or more of those too. The first one is landscape format, using https://www.papier.com/landscape-photo-313 I am very pleased with the result. and the second one is portrait format, using https://www.papier.com/portrait-photo-315 It has not yet arrived here. Both are text and I generated the artwork in Serif PagePlus X7. They also had a white background. Helpful discussion with Papier staff, both by email and online chat and links to web pages that they supplied enabled me to work out what I needed. It was a jpg, 7 inches by 5 inches, 300 dots per inch, CMYK, with a 3 mm bleed area on each edge. I worked using pixel measurements and used 2171 pixels by 1571 pixels. ---- I am now wanting to produce some artwork in Designer. The particular Papier template that I am intending to use is the portrait format one that I used before. It allows me to use colour to the edge of the card, like a lot of the quality A5 non-specific occasion cards that are often available at museums, art galleries and some bookshops and the like. So I am thinking that I need to paint, I shall probably use the watercolour brushes, into the bleed area. So I did a test, the result of which is interesting. In Designer I set up a 7 inch by 5 inch drawing, and to make what happens clear I used a 1 inch bleed area on each edge. One inch is far more than the 3 mm that I need to use in teh artwork, but this is a test. So I used the diamond tool to draw a large diamond with its leftside point touching the left edge of the displayed Designer document. I then exported a jpg including bleed areas. I opened the jpg in Microsoft Paint and teh diamond was 1 inch in from the left edge of the image. So it seems to be able to draw colour to the edge of the artwork for the card, that I need to generate a document that in larger than 7 inches by 5 inches by 3 mm on each side and not have, as far as Designer is "aware", a bleed area at all, then export from Designer without a bleed area. That should produce artwork that is regarded by the papier system as having a 3 mm bleed area on each edge and, provided I have drawn the artwork correctly, have colour going right to the edge of the card. ---- Having chosen the CMYK/8When setting up the colour profile and not understanding which to use I used Agfa: Swop Standard as I thought that as the greetings cards are intended to use a photo, rather than computer generated artwork, that that one looked as if it might be nearer to a photograph. Is that right? In any case I shall, as before, unless advised otherwise in this forum, not include an ICC profile in the jpg file. William

Recently I decided to update my computer to version 1.9 of each program. Updating Publisher and Designer worked fine. However Photo refused, reporting that it would not install on a 64-bit machine. It also asked me, politely, to contact Technical Support. I do like it when people have programmed software to be polite. I have hardly ever looked at Photo, but I am trying to update it for completeness. William

Which font were you using please? William

Regarding this topic. Serif has now provided a statement.. My request for a statement has been moved to the forum about Feedback for the Affinity Suite of Products. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/131918-request-for-a-statement-about-pdf-accessibility-from-serif-please/ William

I have now started the following thread. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/131918-request-for-a-statement-about-pdf-accessibility-from-serif-please/ William

There is a thread https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/65212-tagged-pdf-support-for-accessibility/ that has been going since 2018. Can Serif make a statement in that thread about what it will do about this important issue please? William Overington Monday 25 January 2021

JohannaH mentioned this thread in the following thread. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/131590-future-of-publishing/ So I looked at this thread and I am amazed at how long this thread has been going on and yet not having any response from Serif. William

Thank you for your reply. I got started with reading the first document. I have a question please, if I may. I produce PDF documents, some are research documents, some are novels, some are a mixture of both. Suppose that Serif does what you request. What, if anything, would a content author using the updated version of Affinity Publisher to produce a PDF document need to do in order that that PDF document would be accessible to your satisfaction please? It is unclear to me at present whether a content author would need to do anything in that it might perhaps be the case that everything necessary would be done behind the scenes by Affinity Publisher. Is there anyone from Serif who can say what Serif can do to help with this important issue please? William

Hi I am a publisher, only on a small scale and only of things that I have produced myself. I would be pleased to make sure that my PDF documents are accessible. Yet I need to learn what is needed. Can you write more about what exactly, precisely, a PDF document produced using Affinity Publisher does not do in relation to accessibility that you consider it should do please? Thank you for raising this important issue. Best regards, William

Publishing is making an item available to the public, whether free or for payment. Publishing can be in hardcopy or electronic format. If electronic format that could be as a file on a disc or what is known as pure electronic publishing by making it available as an electronic file delivered, or obtainable, by purely electronic means. An example of pure electronic publishing is to use Affinity Publisher to produce a pure electronic PDF (Portable Document Format) document and to make it available free-of-charge on a publicly accessible web page. In the United Kingdom there is a rather wonderful facility called Legal Deposit, whereby The British Library collects and conserves a copy of most things (there are a few things not collected) published in the United Kingdom and/or by a United Kingdom citizen. There is a quite widespread belief that a publisher must be a business, but that is not true. Some publishers are each a business, but being a business is not a condition of being a publisher. It is possible, and I do it myself, for a individual to produce a PDF document, make it available on the web, and then it will (theoretically) gathered by The British Library as part of their web harvesting process, though they need to know of the website and they only harvest some sites once in a while, so some could be missed by the harvesting process. However, one can ensure that one's publication does not get missed by sending The British Library a copy directly as an email attachment. If one askes for an email receipt then they send one, but one does need to ask. I always ask and the receipts arrive. Often very promptly, usually within for our five hours, counting only office hours, so if one is sent in the evening or weekend the receipt will not arrive to the weekday. The fastest I got a receipt was recently, it took two minutes. Here are some links about it all. https://www.bl.uk/legal-deposit https://www.bl.uk/help/how-to-deposit-your-digital-publications Legal deposit for electronic publications has only been since around 2013, though there was a voluntary depositing scheme from around 2002 after the law was enacted until it came into force around 2013 after the regulations were finalized and approved. I participated in the voluntary scheme. Much of the law is framed as if a publisher would be unwilling to make a deposit unless legally required to do so, but for me it is a great facility as if I write something, publish it in a PDF document and make it available on the web, then The British Library will accept it and conserve it. How many people have read it or what literary critics might opine about its merit or lack merit is irrelevant to the conservation process. William Overington Wednesday 20 January 2021

Thank you. I'll try it. William