lsigler Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Can you please correct your 'Rulers' when using for inches? Your interface display treats inch rulers like they are metric measurements. Proper 'inch' rulers should show the relative size of the individual 'ticks' depending on the 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4 and 1/2 delimiters. Instead you show all the same size except the 1/2 mark. Your 'ticks' are also too small and hard to see, especially on laptop screens. ronnyb, Pšenda, Alfred and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 For example: kenmcd, lsigler and Alfred 3 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
lsigler Posted March 3, 2021 Author Posted March 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Pšenda said: For example: Exactly! Quote
kamanderside Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Would be valuable to learn the decimal equivalents, then one can just enter the exact value for guides and such, instead of guessing at it. I use decimals for everything so I never noticed the markers weren't all that great. EX - .125 is 1/8 .25 is 1/4 .375 is 3/8 .5 is 1/2 and so forth.... Pšenda 1 Quote
Alfred Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, warzmanda said: Would be valuable to learn the decimal equivalents, then one can just enter the exact value for guides and such, instead of guessing at it. If you’re using a control that allows you to type in a value you can enter an expression instead. So instead of remembering (or working out) that three sixteenths is 0.1875 you can simply type 3/16 and let the app do the arithmetic for you. lsigler 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
lsigler Posted March 3, 2021 Author Posted March 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, warzmanda said: Would be valuable to learn the decimal equivalents, then one can just enter the exact value for guides and such, instead of guessing at it. I use decimals for everything so I never noticed the markers weren't all that great. EX - .125 is 1/8 .25 is 1/4 .375 is 3/8 .5 is 1/2 and so forth.... You are missing my point. We already know and use decimal equivalents, that is not the issue. The ruler, as it is currently implemented, is not a correct visual implementation. As a graphics program Publisher should adhere to the correct visual representations of the tools offered. Jowday 1 Quote
Mike Althaus Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 Agreed, Inches ruler should have different length tics for 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16th etc. jmwellborn 1 Quote
lsigler Posted May 8, 2021 Author Posted May 8, 2021 Unfortunately, it appears Affinity doesn’t monitor these posts, so no action will be taken to correct this issue. Quote
walt.farrell Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, lsigler said: Unfortunately, it appears Affinity doesn’t monitor these posts, so no action will be taken to correct this issue. They do monitor them. In most cases they do not respond to feature requests, however, but simply use them for planning. lsigler 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
GaryLearnTech Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 On 3/3/2021 at 3:58 AM, lsigler said: Your interface display treats inch rulers like they are metric measurements. Proper 'inch' rulers should show the relative size of the individual 'ticks' depending on the 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4 and 1/2 delimiters. Sorry, but I disagree that inch measurements and metric (ie decimal) divisions should be exclusive. Who's to say what proper is? I don't think there's any international standards body that would support that. The photo below shows not just a 'proper' but a real 12" rule, probably circa 1980. It clearly shows the second half with decimal divisions. However, I would agree that your example showing the level 1/16th ticks should really have uppy/downy ticks, or at least the option. I'd say there's room for choices. Perhaps the developers were influenced by memories of similar real-world rulers when they produced the version we have in Publisher today? Quote —— Gary —— Photo/Designer/Publisher: Affinity Store, v2.6.n release (and, since I have the space, the last v1 versions too). Mac mini (M1, 2020), 16GB/2TB, macOS Sequoia iPad Pro (M4) 13", 1TB, Apple Pencil Pro, iPadOS 18 MacBook Pro (Intel), macOS Sequoia Windows 10 via VMware Fusion
Pšenda Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, GaryLearnTech said: It clearly shows the second half with decimal divisions. And it is not clear from this what is correct/preferred, and what is only a substitute and less frequently used scale? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Pšenda Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, GaryLearnTech said: real-world If you need a real-world example, try buying a 0.75" or 1.25" tap/pipe at a plumbing center. Of course they will expect 3/4" and 5/4". Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
lsigler Posted May 9, 2021 Author Posted May 9, 2021 4 hours ago, GaryLearnTech said: Sorry, but I disagree that inch measurements and metric (ie decimal) divisions should be exclusive. Who's to say what proper is? I don't think there's any international standards body that would support that. The photo below shows not just a 'proper' but a real 12" rule, probably circa 1980. It clearly shows the second half with decimal divisions. However, I would agree that your example showing the level 1/16th ticks should really have uppy/downy ticks, or at least the option. I'd say there's room for choices. Perhaps the developers were influenced by memories of similar real-world rulers when they produced the version we have in Publisher today? Sorry, but you are incorrect in your assumptions. There are established standards. In the United States rules with the common 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, etc. are used for architecture, printed material and most other purposes. Rules with inch demarcations of 1/10, 1/20, 1/30, etc. are referred to as ‘engineering’ rules and are used in many forms of engineering. These are not ‘old’ or outdated, they are common today and are just used in different professions. Going back to the original Macs and Pagemaker 1.0 and Ventura Publisher 1.0 on the PC (and every major software since) the ‘inch’ rulers have followed and conformed to the traditional common analog ruler representation. Mike Althaus 1 Quote
fde101 Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 Correct, these are examples of currently available engineering scale rulers: https://www.amazon.com/Flat-Stainless-Steel-Engineer-Scale/dp/B07488BJSC https://www.amazon.com/Pacific-T-561-Scholastic-engineer-scale/dp/B01M0VEV9H As opposed to architectural scale rulers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F7TRH3M Quote
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