The new Bookmarks feature is very bad [1.9.0.742]

[Old Bruce]

There are some problems with the new bookmarks feature. I don't really know all of what is broken but I cannot remove bookmarks by unchecking them in the Anchor's panel. I cannot get anything other than an alphabetical list of them. There seems to be some problem with renaming them, it doesn't stick. It is possible to nest the bookmarks but reordering is impossible.
I am fine with them showing up in the Table of Contents sidebar of Preview instead of the Bookmarks sidebar.

[walt.farrell]

13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I am fine with them showing up in the Table of Contents sidebar of Preview instead of the Bookmarks sidebar.

What PDF export preset did you use, and did you have Bookmarks enabled under More...?

As I mentioned elsewhere, they aren't enabled by default (like hyperlinks) in PDF for Print, but they are in PDF for Export.

[walt.farrell]

38 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

but I cannot remove bookmarks by unchecking them in the Anchor's panel

To remove a bookmark you would highlight it and click the delete icon (trashcan) as for any other anchor.

Unchecking should not remove a bookmark, but should only suppress including it in the PDF file during export.

38 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

There seems to be some problem with renaming them, it doesn't stick.

Renaming works on Windows. Perhaps a Mac UI bug if it doesn't work there.

38 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

It is possible to nest the bookmarks but reordering is impossible.

How do you nest them? I've seen it happen for headings (Heading 1, Heading2) but not for simple bookmarks that I add via Add Anchor.

38 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

but reordering is impossible

I'm not sure what you tried, but I can reorder them by dragging within the Anchors panel. If that doesn't work on Mac, it's apparently Mac-specific. (And, actually, that provided one way to nest them, too, but I'm not sure I fully understand how it's working.)

 

Also: Reordering or renaming within the Anchors panel seems to often flag the bookmark not to appear in the PDF.

[Murfee]

Can confirm that no matter what export setting I tried, with include bookmarks ticked they do not appear in Preview (Mojave)

I can rename & delete but not change the order, but I did manage to nest one while I was tying to re order. While trying this it is easy to accidentally click on the little icon on the right which I suppose suppresses that bookmark in the export...but can't check 😀

 

[Murfee]

Just to add, there is a very clumsy way of re ordering....by renaming, not recommended though 😀

 

[thomaso]

APub crashed a few times with a new document, at first caused by selecting the "digital" preset in the export options – but now it works.

v742 bookmark.afpub

Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-19-153423_mbp2.crash
Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-19-153539_mbp2.crash
Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-19-154318_mbp2.crash
 
To me the bookmarks appear in a PDF according to their icon highlight setting in APub.

Changing the order doesn't work to me, too – though there is obviously an UI. I can drag an entry, get a blue bar – but nothing happens on mouse release.

[Old Bruce]

Well today is a different day. The only thing that won't work for me now (after a computer shut down overnight) is the reordering.

I can rename the bookmarks and I can nest them and I can turn them on and off from the Anchors panel, but not the Anchor Properties pane although its checkbox will update to show the status of the Bookmark. I guess any bugs were in my machine and or my head.

I would really like the ability to have the bookmarks set by location in the document instead of the current alphabetized mess.

[Murfee]

4 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

The only thing that won't work for me now (after a computer shut down overnight) is the reordering.

Are the bookmarks showing up in Preview after export ?

[thomaso]

42 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I would really like the ability to have the bookmarks set by location in the document instead of the current alphabetized mess.

Agree (same for Hyperlinks): A 'chronological' order (or a sort option) + page numbers next to each item would be very useful.

36 minutes ago, Murfee said:

Are the bookmarks showing up in Preview after export ?

Not to me, their tray is empty:

[Old Bruce]

14 minutes ago, Murfee said:

Are the bookmarks showing up in Preview after export ?

 

7 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Not to me, their tray is empty:

As I originally mentioned

 

"I am fine with them showing up in the Table of Contents sidebar of Preview instead of the Bookmarks sidebar." So they show up in the ToC (Table of Contents sidebar [Inhaltsverzeichnis(?)]) instead of the Bookmarks.

An aside: As a reader I put bookmarks in books, I don't want the publisher/editor/writer filling it up with bookmarks for me.

 

[thomaso]

11 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

"I am fine with them showing up in the Table of Contents sidebar of Preview instead of the Bookmarks sidebar." So they show up in the ToC (Table of Contents sidebar [Inhaltsverzeichnis(?)]) instead of the Bookmarks.

Interesting. I don't get them, neither here nor there.

Do they show up for you in Preview for this attached PDF?    v742 bookmark.pdf

[Old Bruce]

2 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Do they show up for you in Preview for this attached PDF?

No, yet the links seem to work.

Try these 

Does this work.zip

Does this work.zip

[thomaso]

6 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

No, yet the links seem to work.

Try these 

Quite strange, I see your bookmarks in Preview (TOC) and in APub's panel but could not identify them on the pages: the button "Go to Anchor" is grayed out for every item and doesn't react on click.

But I noticed you assigned your anchors to objects (selected with move tool), not as I did, to a specific spot within text (text tool > anchor symbol). – Might this make a difference for Preview?

So I added two such 'frame' anchors to my .afpub and tried to export. APub now immediately crashes when the export command gets selected (no options window). I tried a few more times but it keeps crashing. The .afpub contains just a few objects (3 hyperlinks, 5 anchors). – Is anybody able to export from this? Or detect a culprit? (p.s.: Why have all my .afpubs at least 1.8 MB ?)

Here the changed .afpub + 3 more crash reports:      v742 bookmark - 2.afpub

Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-20-014429_mbp2.crash

Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-20-014429_mbp2.crash

Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-20-015054_mbp2.crash

 

Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-20-014428_mbp2.crash Affinity Publisher Beta_2020-09-20-014429_mbp2.crash

[Gabe]

Hi all,

Thanks for your help. I ended up logging 3 bugs from this post  

[garrettm30]

5 hours ago, Gabe said:

I ended up logging 3 bugs from this post

That's what beta testing is all about.