Ben Walsh Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Hi, in 'Designer' is there any way to convert text to outlines (paths)? It's a function that I've use all the time in Illustrator & I'm praying it can be done in AD. Essentially I want to be able to edit each character as a path, so I can customise them. 036whispered, LogoLogics and Brackbox 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abfdesign Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Select text. Layer menu; 'convert to curves' Brackbox, Tart, LogoLogics and 4 others 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Walsh Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Spot on, you're a star! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathieLive Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Was just looking for the same thing! So relieved we can do this in AD. Loving using it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCollinsG3 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Is this same thing possible in Affinity Publisher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 hours ago, TCollinsG3 said: Is this same thing possible in Affinity Publisher? Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums. Yes, it is. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abfdesign Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Also, when you output/publish PDF, there is an option to convert all text to curves instead of embedding font. Andy l254, sheriffderek, ngolay and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf4eva Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I am wanting my text to become a shape so that I can then put additional text on one of the curves. I have selected 'convert to curves' for the text that I want as a shape. I then select the shape and then the artistic text tool, however it doesn't allow me to type on a path. Is this possible to do or am I doing something wrong? Regards, Kylie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, wolf4eva said: I am wanting my text to become a shape so that I can then put additional text on one of the curves. I have selected 'convert to curves' for the text that I want as a shape. I then select the shape and then the artistic text tool, however it doesn't allow me to type on a path. Is this possible to do or am I doing something wrong? If you're using Designer or Publisher, once you've converted it to curves, then use Layer > Convert to Text Path. Note that you will lose the fill and stroke of the letters, so you may want to duplicate that layer and convert the duplicate to a text path. If you're using Photo, you need to use Designer or Publisher instead. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf4eva Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Thank you Walt. I am using Publisher. After I convert to curves the option to convert to text path is greyed out. Am I doing something wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 hours ago, wolf4eva said: After I convert to curves the option to convert to text path is greyed out. That's interesting, because for me it's not enabled until after I've converted to curves. Make sure you still have the (Curves) layer selected in the Layers panel. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: That's interesting, because for me it's not enabled until after I've converted to curves. Make sure you still have the (Curves) layer selected in the Layers panel. Not 100% true: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, PixelPest said: Not 100% true: That's certainly useful information, but I don't see how it makes anything I said in that quoted bit (or earlier in this thread) untrue. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 No offence intended and I didn´t say "untrue" if you like to read a second time. You said: 11 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Note that you will lose the fill and stroke of the letters, so you may want to duplicate that layer and convert the duplicate to a text path. And that´s not needed as you can still edit the path/fill attributes and it´s not lost: I guess we´re talking about 2 different things: I meant the Art text path and you the text-to-path conversion loosing editable text but he wants it basically as ArtText path and not editable text - right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, PixelPest said: No offence intended and I didn´t say "untrue" if you like to read a second time. Not offended, just confused about what you might have meant. (Also, if something is not 100% true, then it is x% untrue ) 9 minutes ago, PixelPest said: I guess we´re talking about 2 different things: I meant the Art text path and you the text-to-path conversion loosing editable text but he wants it basically as ArtText path and not editable text - right? Any conversion of text to curves makes the text non-editable. In addition, the Convert to Text Path function loses the stroke and fill of the existing path/curve. I was pointing out to @wolf4eva that the conversion to a text path would change the appearance of the converted text. So, if the goal is to have path text on other text, the other text needs to be duplicated first. The aspects of the path settings that you pointed out are something different, but also good do know about. Thanks. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: In addition, the Convert to Text Path function loses the stroke and fill of the existing path/curve. Not true in APub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, PixelPest said: Not true in APub. Interesting. I wonder which of them (Publisher, Designer) is broken Designer after Convert to Text Path: Publisher after Convert to Text Path: Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 14 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I wonder which of them (Publisher, Designer) is broken not broken.afdesign Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, R C-R said: not broken.afdesign That's a strange file, and you'll need to explain how you did that before you will convince me. (Especially given that my prior screenshots demonstrate that an identical sequence of actions in Publisher and Designer give different results.) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Maybe like so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, PixelPest said: Maybe like so. That certainly duplicates R C-R's result visually, but what do you really have there, and what steps did you take to get it? (The most puzzling aspect of R C-R's file, to me, is that in the Layers panel it seems to have just an Artistic text layer, with only part of the text on the path. And the large A isn't present in the Layers panel in any way that I can see.) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Do you know how to make it in Publisher? Then just send it to Designer (Edit in Designer). As far as I know there´ll be a second layer called "Master" which can be deleted. Save as a Designer file - end of story. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: That's a strange file, and you'll need to explain how you did that before you will convince me. In a new unsaved document in Designer, I used Convert to Curves & then Convert to Text Path in the usual way. As expected, at that point there was no visible path stroke or fill. In the usual way, I typed some text on the path & adjusted it to follow the outline of the A-shaped path like you see in the screenshot. Next, I used File > Edit in Publisher & its Text Frame Studio panel to give the path a fill & stroke. I then used File > Edit in Designer to 'round trip' back to Designer, where I saved the file. The point of all this is to convince you that just because one of the Affinity apps does not have all the features of another does not make any of them "broken." If that was true, then Publisher would be broken because it does not have an Export persona, both Designer & Photo would be broken because they do not have a Text Frame panel, & so on. But that is clearly not true: they all support the features of each other without breaking any of them. Therefore, it is equally true that they are not broken. So, have I convinced you or not? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, R C-R said: So, have I convinced you or not? Not, but only because the same sequence of actions as you took in Designer, when done in Publisher, keeps the path fill and stroke. It is the inconsistency in identical actions that suggests to me there's a bug in one of them. Thanks for the explanation of what you did. There's still an oddity to be explained. If I use the Artistic Text tool in Design er and make the letter A, then convert it to Curvers, then convert that to a Text Path, and then type a phrase, I get this: In the Layers panel this shows up as: In your file, the Layers panel shows: So (a) why does it appear to be normal artistic text rather than text on a path, and (b) why is the phrase "Neither Affinity Designer nor Affinity Publisher is Broken" incomplete on the Layer panel? Bryce 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It is the inconsistency in identical actions that suggests to me there's a bug in one of them. Why? They are two different apps, intended for different kinds of projects, so there is no compelling reason every action should have identical results. Consider for example creating a line of text with either text tool in Designer, & then deselecting it. Now do exactly the same thing in a different document in Photo. In Designer, unless you switch to one of the pixel view modes, the display of the text remains sharp even when not selected because it is not rasterized. But in Photo it does not because Photo is primarily intended for raster image work, so all unselected text is displayed rasterized. The same is true for shapes & curves, & even for Publisher documents in its Publisher & Designer personas vs. in its Photo persona. I don't know about you, but this does not suggest to me that there is a bug in this behavior of any one of them. 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: There's still an oddity to be explained. This appears to be a consequence of using the 'edit in' File menu item to work on the document in a different Affinity app. They all adopt the Affinity Photo convention of labeling unnamed artistic text layers with a default taken from the beginning characters of the text. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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