nocsun1 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Can someone please help me re-create this design; top two. The company is Nocturnal Sun, so it's an N and S combined. The two on the bottom are as far as I got. As you can see, I'm still a beginner. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 The easiest way that I know of would be to use the Pie Tool. See attached video – the end result can be rotated (not shown in video) as required. 2024-10-03 08-45-46.mp4 Nicte, Ldina and user_0815 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 It’s possible to do a similar thing with the Donut Tool and Symbols but the ‘join’ between the centre line and the curves isn’t ‘perfect’. Further experimentation might give a better result. See attached video and document. 2024-10-03 12-57-49.mp4 NandS-With-Symbols.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansnom Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Hi @nocsun1, you should give more information about the client Nocturnal Sun: their field of activity (and therefore their target customers) will certainly condition the type of graphic design. I just did a search and found... a “Hard Rock” style music group (https://hotvox.co.uk/artist/nocturnal-sun/). If this is indeed your client, a very clean, clinical and geometric logotype like what you posted may not be the most appropriate. NB: the oblique line in a circle quickly evokes a one-way road sign. 😉 Quote — Mac Mini M2 Pro - 16Go - 512 Go – macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 – BenQ PD2700U UHD 4K — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 @sansnomI may be wrong here but I think this particular 'Nocturnal Sun' is a Music & Film production company in California. Quote macOS 12.7.6 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Not to be that guy but... that logo would be an N and a Z, not an S. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocsun1 Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 Nocturnal Sun is my company in Emeryville, California. I do mainly music production. I also do photography and some film/video production. It's my design, which is supposed to be an N and S combined. Yes, I realize the letters are reversed or mirrored and may appear to look more like a Z. If you have any other ideas for a logo, please share. It does look a bit like a Nazi symbol and so I'm open to new ideas. The help I need is how to re-create this logo in Designer. I thought it would be something like; create a circle, then 'convert to curves', then add nodes, then select certain ones to delete part of the circle. I couldn't get it. However, GaryP got it! Thanks GaryP, the videos are amazing and super helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldina Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 @nocsun1 I actually prefer @GarryP's method, but just for educational purposes, here's another way to do it. I created a Donut, a Rectangle (for the angled line) and two small circles (for the rounded ends). I added the white border to the shapes simply to make it easier to visualize on screen. They're not needed. Then, I selected all four layers in the Layers Panel, and clicked on the "Shape Builder Tool" (in the toolbar on the left). I clicked on the four segments shown below with the angled lines, which shows which shapes have been selected for 'action'. Then I clicked to the Action: "-", which is the delete action in the Contextual Toolbar. The result is shown below.. Those four segments I selected were deleted from the design, leaving your desired logo. With all four layers still selected, I selected the Move Tool (shortcut V) and set the white stoke to "None" in the color Panel. As mentioned, those strokes were only there to help visualize what I was doing. GarryP 1 Quote 2024 MacBook Pro M4 Max, 48GB, 1TB SSD, Sequoia OS, Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher v1 & v2, Adobe CS6 Extended, LightRoom v6, Blender, InkScape, Dell 30" Monitor, Canon PRO-100 Printer, i1 Spectrophotometer, i1Publish, Wacom Intuos 4 PTK-640 graphics tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 11 hours ago, nocsun1 said: It does look a bit like a Nazi symbol and so I'm open to new ideas. While your rounded "z" shape generally may look like a "sun wheel" or "swastika" – with or without political/religious/cultural meaning – you might even want to avoid the monogram altogether to prevent any association with the Nazi use of the abbreviation "NS", which was and is also used for "National Socialism" (Nazism). Regarding "new ideas" for a visual design it first seems to matter what you understand as "Nocturnal Sun" in the use as your company name – especially a relation of this expression to "music production" as the main subject of your company. While I would personally assume that the moon is the only “nocturnal sun” available, a search for this phrase ironically led to another use of the monogram “NS”: https://www.NewScientist.com/article/mg23631571-700-the-mystery-of-the-nocturnal-sun-could-be-solved-at-last/ “Nocturnal Sun” also reminds me that the French film director Truffaut used a special technique for his movie "Day For Night" ("La Nuit Americane") to transform daytime shots into nighttime shots, which became later called “French Night”… and which might somehow relate to your company’s photo/video theme possibly more than the phrase “Nocturnal Sun” (assuming night time matters in your company). >> In 1974, François Truffaut won an Oscar in the category of best foreign language film: in "La nuit américaine" he paid homage to his craft and was rewarded for it, because Hollywood loves films more than filmmaking. Truffaut's title refers to the cinematic process of using blue filters to shoot scenes with artificial night, and so for a Frenchman the American night, that of the Oscars, became his own. In a way, it could be said that France is triumphing in Hollywood again - so thoroughly that one can safely speak of the "French night". << https://www.nzz.ch/die_franzoesische_nacht-ld.606373 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonC123 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 You said that you were open to new ideas. After reviewing what you had and said, I thought about incorporating a music note and a dark or nocturnal sun (black). The lines represent the rays of the sun. You could have text in the logo or not. See the attached. Quote Don My YouTube Channel My Blog - One Man's Meanderings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 17 hours ago, nocsun1 said: If you have any other ideas for a logo, please share. Just to say, don't get too hung up on having to have N & S in your logo. Lots of logos are just shapes or images, which will give you much more flexibility in what you can design. Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansnom Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Hi @DonC123, hearing aid ?!... Quote — Mac Mini M2 Pro - 16Go - 512 Go – macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 – BenQ PD2700U UHD 4K — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocsun1 Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 First off, thanks Ldina for your tutorial. As a beginner, this really helps in trying to learn the program. Secondly, thank you Thomaso for your thoughts on the design. Your knowledge and insights have made me think I should explore something different. DonC123, thank you so much for these new logo ideas. You must have spent some time creating them. Amazing! The horizontal lines look like an old RCA ribbon mic. Carl123, I hear you. I'm going to maybe drop the letters and come up with something different. All of your ideas and input here have helped tremendously. I'm so impressed with this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonC123 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I tried one for fun. I started by thinking about and using a Wrap Text to Shape tutorial and then just started to try a number of different things. It's not a typical type of logo, but perhaps it will give you some things to think about. If you want the file AD2, I can attach it. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3ptu7HLgk Quote Don My YouTube Channel My Blog - One Man's Meanderings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocsun1 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 Hey that's really great! I could totally use the file. I learned a lot from the YouTube video. Also, checked out your website and blog. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I like the colors and it's very playful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonC123 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 8 hours ago, nocsun1 said: Hey that's really great! I could totally use the file. I learned a lot from the YouTube video. Also, checked out your website and blog. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I like the colors and it's very playful. I have attached the file. It contains the other logo designs as well. Hopefully by examining the layers, you can see what I did. I don't know if fonts travel with the file, but Russo One was used on the original and Arial Black for the last one. Nocturnal Sun Logo Design.afdesign Fonts.zip Quote Don My YouTube Channel My Blog - One Man's Meanderings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansnom Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Hi @DonC123, unfortunately, the fonts are not integrated into the AD file, they are external resources. 😶 Quote — Mac Mini M2 Pro - 16Go - 512 Go – macOS Sonoma 14.7.1 – BenQ PD2700U UHD 4K — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonC123 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 59 minutes ago, sansnom said: Hi @DonC123, unfortunately, the fonts are not integrated into the AD file, they are external resources. 😶 Thanks for letting me know. I added a zip folder to the reply that had the original file. I zipped them because most forums don't like to allow those types of files. I use windows, so I don't know if they are mac compatible. Quote Don My YouTube Channel My Blog - One Man's Meanderings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocsun1 Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 Yes, I got it and it worked. Your font is missing for the 1st one, but it still looks good. The other one is perfect. Thanks again for these beautiful designs! Oh, I just found your Font.zip and downloaded it. The Aribik font didn't work, but the Russo-One did. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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