affinity designer Would you happen to have any Grey Poupon?

[Ldina]

Today's exercise, all done in the Designer Persona. I had to try a few new techniques for this one. 😵‍💫

 

 

[Brian_J]

Really nice shading and reflections. Quite a convincing graphic… looks like something I could pick up and unscrew the top from.

[DonC123]

Great job on this. I really like the look of the glass, you nailed that very well. You are brave to do that with a 2D drawing program. I say that because I have used 3D modeling and rendering for 20+ years, so I would have used 3D, so your 2D is that much more impressive to me.

[2112st]

Incredible work!!

[henryanthony]

Bravo! 

[DelN]

Great work! I had to look up 'poupon'. I had no idea what it was. Your one looks more convincing than the image in the 'Grey Poupon' advertising campaign. So realistic!

[Ldina]

9 hours ago, DonC123 said:

I would have used 3D, so your 2D is that much more impressive to me.

I'm just stubborn, I guess!! Agreed, 3D would be the way to go, but I'm not very good with Blender (the only 3D program I've tried). Thanks.

[Ldina]

9 hours ago, Brian_J said:

Really nice shading and reflections.

Thanks, Brian. The reflections and shading is what took the longest to make it look convincing. It's amazing what a huge difference they make. Without them, it's a big flat blob of yellow. 

[DelN]

Hi Ldina,

I don't know if you are aware, but there are two great 3D programs that Bentley software company have just released the best two 3D programs for FREE for everyone forever. One is Vue, in which you can create terrains, mountains, deserts. water, planets, clouds, paint on vegetation, trees, shrubs, rocks, animate it all over time, age and grow the trees and shrubs. The other is PlantFactory, in which you can create plants, trees, shrubs and grasses, animate them, import them into Vue and any other 3D programs like Max, Cinema 4D, ZBrush, Maya...

I've used both for a while now and think they are amazing. There are so many tutorials on YouTube that can help get you started. I use PlantFactory to create trees and plants to use in matte painting/photobashing work that I do in Affinity Photo and Vue to create landscapes, rocks, clouds, mist and to paint plants on terrains and export. Both export the object and its mask so you don't have to mask out anything. 

I recommend watching a few tutorials on YouTube and download them if they interest you (and all the free assets) from

https://www.bentley.com/software/e-on-software-free-downloads/

Vladimir Chopin at Geekatplay has many tutorials on YouTube, as do E-on Software. Check it out...

Regards 

Del

[Ldina]

@DelN Thanks, Del. I will check them out. I learned the rudiments of Blender, but found it a bit daunting, plus the files were so big and took so long to render on my machine. I haven't done much for quite a while. I look forward to trying Vue and Plant Factory. Thanks for sharing!!

[henryanthony]

@Ldina Blender IS daunting! But, if you learn it in logical chunks, it's not that hard. The tutorial that laid the foundation for me is Blender Tutorial For Complete Beginners.

This is a pretty famous tutorial series by "Blender Guru" that provides you the knowledge to get going in Blender. Do each tutorial until you understand it. Then look for other tutorials by Blender Guru and Ryan King Art. These two guys are very well spoken and they don't spend any time on stupid music and dumb comments like so many YouTube tutors. Make sure to read the comments. They point out some problems with the tutorials and are helpful to overall understanding. Good luck should you undertake this journey.

[henryanthony]

@Ldina Just FYI, the tutorials show how to easily render quick, low res images and then change two numbers for high res final renders. 

[Ldina]

@henryanthony Thanks, Henry. I did the Blender Guru "donut tutorial" and have watched some of Ryan King's tutorials in the past. Both excellent. I even did some semi-convincing creations.  (here are a few examples). I think the massive file sizes and long rendering times are what caused me to fizzle out! (Then again, it took me a long time to create the Grey Poupon graphic!! 🤔)

EDIT: haha, our emails crossed one another. I was just getting ready to save my post when yours arrived!

  

[DonC123]

On 9/5/2024 at 6:45 AM, Ldina said:

I'm just stubborn, I guess!! Agreed, 3D would be the way to go, but I'm not very good with Blender (the only 3D program I've tried). Thanks.

I hope you don't mind me posting this image. When I see things I am impressed by, like your mustard jar, I sometimes like to mimic them with a 3D model and render. As such, you were today's muse. 🙂 You mentioned your experience with Blender and render times and such. I thought you might be interested in my 3D experience. Today, I modeled the jar in TurboCAD (about 1/2 hour). I located, tweaked, and made the labels in Affinity Photo (about 1/2 hour). I applied materials and set up the scene in Keyshot (about 1/2 hour) and then I rendered and saved to image format in Keyshot (57 minutes to render at 2100 x 3750 pixels at 300 dpi).  I did tweak the final render in Affinity Photo by adding shadows to the front label since I liked how yours looked and my render didn't have them (about 15 minutes). Overall, about 3.25 hours total. 

Whenever I think about comparisons between 2D & 3D drawing/modeling, I always think about 2D artists like Jim Hatch and Beau and Alan Daniels superb 2D examples. They always remind me that there is definitely room for both 2D and 3D artists.

BTW, I did see your blender renders in this thread. They look great!

[Ldina]

15 minutes ago, DonC123 said:

I hope you don't mind me posting this image.

Hi Don. Don't mind at all, in fact, I consider it quite a nice compliment. You've got my head spinning with all the different programs you used to create yours! Your 3D render looks great and some of the details are better than my 2D version (especially the indentation and highlights on the cap). You can also show different views quickly by changing camera views, which I cannot do without recreating much of the the design (no thanks!! 😳). 

I'm curious, where did you get the "Grey Poupon" font, or did you create the letters yourself? I created mine from scratch using vector tools in Designer, since I couldn't find the actual font, then expanded them to Curves, so I could Warp them to fit. 

Thanks for the comments on my Salt & Pepper grinders and my attempt at Saturn. That's about the best I've been able to do with Blender. I haven't done anything with 3D for about the last 6 months or more...perhaps I'll give it another try. It's pretty amazing what can be done and how they have figured out how light bounces, reflects, refracts, etc. 

Just one fun note...I was looking at my design on my iPad and wondered if scanning the teeny, tiny QR code with my iPhone would work and it took me right to their website. Pretty cool. 

[DonC123]

12 minutes ago, Ldina said:

Hi Don. Don't mind at all, in fact, I consider it quite a nice compliment. You've got my head spinning with all the different programs you used to create yours! Your 3D render looks great and some of the details are better than my 2D version (especially the indentation and highlights on the cap). You can also show different views quickly by changing camera views, which I cannot do without recreating much of the the design (no thanks!! 😳). 

I'm curious, where did you get the "Grey Poupon" font, or did you create the letters yourself? I created mine from scratch using vector tools in Designer, since I couldn't find the actual font, then expanded them to Curves, so I could Warp them to fit. 

Thanks for the comments on my Salt & Pepper grinders and my attempt at Saturn. That's about the best I've been able to do with Blender. I haven't done anything with 3D for about the last 6 months or more...perhaps I'll give it another try. It's pretty amazing what can be done and how they have figured out how light bounces, reflects, refracts, etc. 

Just one fun note...I was looking at my design on my iPad and wondered if scanning the teeny, tiny QR code with my iPhone would work and it took me right to their website. Pretty cool. 

I am glad  that you didn't mind.

The ability to change views and overall scene is definitely a bonus with 3D.

I made some of the simple components for the label, but the main parts I found with a Google search. Just had to remove the backgrounds and tweak a bit. For this project, I didn't need them to be perfect. Before I was retired and did this sort of thing professionally, I would have made all components from scratch, often with the aid of tracing a logo I might have found online, to ensure crisp high res results.

I used the Affinity QR code creator and left it as the default affinity address. It is too small and distorted on my render to pick it up.

I hope that you will continue to post more of your Affinity projects. It is always interesting to see how folks use the program.