United Kingdom flag discussion

[Pyanepsion]

The cause of the malfunction seems to have been found. Well done.

That said, don't get me wrong. Some SVG commands were not understood by Affinity Designer, but the Union Jack flag is not actually that complex. Here is a new version that I made from the graphic information in this file. The source is much simpler.

Note:

1. angle = ±arctan(hauteur / largeur) = ±arctan(30 / 50) = ±30,963757 °
   I haven't found a way of calculating this value directly in the R field.
2. The resulting source is much simpler than Wikipedia's.

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<svg width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="0 0 500 300" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xml:space="preserve" xmlns:serif="http://www.serif.com/" style="fill-rule:evenodd;clip-rule:evenodd;stroke-linejoin:round;stroke-miterlimit:2;">
  <rect id="Drapeau-Royaume-Uni" serif:id="Drapeau Royaume-Uni" x="0" y="0" width="500" height="300" style="fill:none;"/>
  <clipPath id="_clip1">
    <rect id="Drapeau-Royaume-Uni1" serif:id="Drapeau Royaume-Uni" x="0" y="0" width="500" height="300"/>
  </clipPath>
  <g clip-path="url(#_clip1)">
    <rect x="0" y="0" width="500" height="300" style="fill:#012169;"/>
    <path d="M484.565,-25.722l30.87,51.449l-499.996,299.998l-30.87,-51.45l499.996,-299.997Z" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <path d="M515.431,274.275l-30.87,51.45l-499.996,-299.998l30.87,-51.449l499.996,299.997Z" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <path d="M171.425,102.85l-10.29,17.15l-171.417,-102.85l10.29,-17.15l171.417,102.85Z" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
    <path d="M510.29,282.848l-10.29,17.15l-171.413,-102.848l10.29,-17.15l171.413,102.848Z" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
    <path d="M200,180l10.29,17.15l-199.996,119.997l-10.29,-17.149l199.996,-119.998Z" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
    <path d="M489.714,-17.15l10.29,17.15l-200,120l-10.29,-17.15l200,-120Z" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
    <rect x="200" y="0" width="20" height="300" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <rect x="280" y="0" width="20" height="300" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <rect x="0.002" y="100" width="500" height="20" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <rect x="0" y="180" width="500" height="20" style="fill:#fff;"/>
    <rect x="0" y="120" width="500" height="60" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
    <rect x="220" y="0" width="60" height="300" style="fill:#c8102e;"/>
  </g>
</svg>

 

drapeau-angleterre.afdesign

Edited January 28, 2024 by Pyanepsion
Flag and note modification

[Alfred]

7 hours ago, Pyanepsion said:

Here is a new version that I made from the graphic information in this file.

That version is incorrect. There should be a (white) gap between the hypotenuse of each blue triangle and the neighbouring red stripe.

[Bit Disappointed]

4 minutes ago, Alfred said:

That version is incorrect. There should be a (white) gap between the hypotenuse of each blue triangle and the neighbouring red stripe.

Haha, don't get too close to the Saint Andrew's Cross!!

[v_kyr]

• union_jack.afdesign
• union_jack.svg

[PaulEC]

Being pedantic, the flag in the original post is the King's (/Queen's) Colour, (which is carried by Infantry Regiments of the British Army) it is not the same thing as the British (Union) Flag (AKA the Union Jack). According to the College of Arms "For the avoidance of doubt and the sake of convenience, Garter King of Arms, under the authority of the Earl Marshal, has approved two versions of the Union flag as being accurate representations suitable for use. These are of the proportions 5:3, commonly flown on land; and 2:1, commonly flown at sea." The King’s Colour, is a variation of the Union Flag, usually with a golden trim and the crest of the regiment in the centre, which has proportions of approximately 3:2. Attached is the correct layout of the Union Flag (5:3 version,) from the College of Arms.

 

[Pyanepsion]

Corrected. Thank you, Alfred, and PaulEC.

For those who are interested… The 1900 Union Flag with a proportion of 4:5 that I had used as a model was in fact effectively created by the War Office, and has become obsolete. There are now 2 organizations:

• College of Arms and Earl Marshal (Modern Recommendations 3:5 and 1:2): this flag is used in both civilian and official contexts. The proportions are 3:5 on land and 1:2 at sea. The College of Arms and the Earl Marshal are heraldic and vexillological authorities who issue advice on the use of the flag.
• King’s Regulations (5:8 and 2:3): This flag is used by the British armed forces and has proportions of 5:8 for a large 3.7m×2.3m flag, and 2:3 for a 1.8m×4.2m flag.

Note:

1. When it comes to screens and specifying the aspect ratio, we generally use the width:height ratio, where width is the first number and height is the second number. For example, a screen with a resolution of 1920 pixels wide and 1080 pixels high is often expressed as a ‘16:9 ratio’ or ‘16:9 format’.
2. When it comes to flags, on the other hand, we tend to talk in terms of proportion, use height:width and generally indicate height in relation to width, where height is the first number and width is the second. For example, the flag of France has a proportion of ’2:3’, which means that its height is 2 units for every 3 units of width.

The difference in terminology between screens and flags is historical and conventional, and is simply due to the different conventions established to describe these two types of objects. These two presentations should be unified to avoid confusion…

[Old Bruce]

Myself I like H:W and reduce the H to 1 and the W to H/W. So 16:9 (a screen) would be 9:16 or my preferred 1:1.778. And 2:3 (a flag) would (still) be 2:3 or 1:1.5.

[Sean P]

I've moved the off-topic discussion about the flag here to keep the relevant issue on-topic.