Vex Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Does APub support emulating small cap(ital)s for fonts that don't have specific small cap glyphs? I'm using a free font that only has a basic Latin alphanumeric character set. Quote Pink Floyd was right. | Windows 10 · MacOS 10.14 · Arch Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 It's in the Character Panel at TT Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 As I understand it, the buttons in the Typography section of the Character Panel do not set those features on, rather they allow those features to be used if the font caters for it. In other words, pressing the Small Caps button will tell the software to use small caps if small caps exist in the font but, if small caps don’t exist in the font then small caps will not be forced/approximated. I believe this is also the same for those typography features elsewhere in the applications – e.g. Text Style editing, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R C-R Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Lagarto said: In Affinity apps Small Caps are simulated if the equivalent OpenType feature does not exist in the font (meaning that "lower case" letters will be rendered with equivalent upper case letters scaled down to lower case size). Has it always done this? I have a (very!) vague memory of this not being supported in the early versions (like 1.4 or so) but I am not at all sure about that. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vex Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 I can't seem to make simulated caps work with this font. 😕 I've attached the font (Rye Regular). The small caps is working for the other font I'm using in this file, and the available glyphs appear to be identical or nearly so. Rye-Regular.ttf Quote Pink Floyd was right. | Windows 10 · MacOS 10.14 · Arch Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 When I turn on ‘Small Caps’ for the Rye Regular font I get capital letters which are bigger than the standard capitals. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lagarto said: ... I made a number or metric fixes to this font but could not figure out which setting could have effect on this. ... Here ya go. Rye-Regular.ttf lacerto, Alfred, Patrick Connor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Thanks, @MikeW. Care to let us know which settings were relevant to this? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: Thanks, @MikeW. Care to let us know which settings were relevant to this? The metrics were messed up. Patrick Connor and walt.farrell 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thomaso Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeW said: The metrics were messed up. Please educate! … and what is the reason that the file size is smaller after your fix and that it's no OpenType any more? Was OpenType involved as a culprit? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lagarto said: Please educate! I tried with many fixes (with FontLab 7 and OTL, that both found many problems) but the one that does the trick is probably obvious only to someone who has created a complete font from the scratch, and learned properly the basics. All I did was to fix the metrics. I used FC, but just did the same in FL and after regenerating the font it works properly. 1 minute ago, thomaso said: Please educate! … and what is the reason that the file size is smaller after your fix and that it's no OpenType any more? Was OpenType involved as a culprit? The original is a TrueType. There are no OT Features, no kern table (either kind) and so simply exported sans those two options. I alsop regenerated the hinting, so that may have affected file size as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lagarto said: Educated myself in pressing Apply It was just the basic cap height and x-height which I had fixed with the cycle button but just forgot to apply the changes... Been there, done that. lacerto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, MikeW said: The original is a TrueType. There are no OT Features, no kern table (either kind) and so simply exported sans those two options. I alsop regenerated the hinting, so that may have affected file size as well. Would this mean a wrong info gets reported here by Extensis Suitcase / or the font file was initially saved in a wrong way (would a font have to to include certain features to may be saved as OpenType) / or … ? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 The original was likely saved/exported with either an empty gpos table and/or any other OpenType feature table. I didn't bother to inspect the file as I don't care. I also didn't bother to load the original font and take a look in other applications such as QXP or ID. But as they have user defined scaling for faux SCs I assumed that they would have been fine. thomaso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 hours ago, MikeW said: Here ya go. Rye-Regular.ttf 143.08 kB · 4 downloads Works perfectly. THANK YOU! Quote Pink Floyd was right. | Windows 10 · MacOS 10.14 · Arch Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, ClairelyClaire said: Works perfectly. THANK YOU! You are most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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