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Yesterday I was on here after a long absence,Things have certainly moved on apace  since I was last here, anyway, yesterday I read an article about a tutorial called Affinity Revolution, it is  pay for you tube based video instructions. I was wondering if it was any good & worth purchasing  or can the same be found for free on this excellent forum?, would appreciate any info.

Also I am finding this forum a little daunting to navigate since I was last here, the products seems to be "mingled" into one, I have AP but I find it difficult to just find topics about AP as a stand alone, I am seeing Designer/ Publisher mixed up in the threads, am I not looking in the right place?.

Thanks for any advice that you could give me.

Royal Bulwell

 

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Welcome back.

I have not seen the Affinity Revolution tutorial videos myself so I can’t say whether they offer anything different/better to the free tutorial videos that are available, however, a quick look at the course content overview of the Photo course doesn’t seem to show anything which is remarkably better than other – free – tutorials that I have watched. My suggestion would be to use the free stuff until you can’t get any further and then ask for suggestions on more specific topics in these forums before paying for anything. As often with this sort of thing, the answer for you is probably partly down to whether your money is more important to you than your time.

For example, the Pixel Perfect Selection course may look a bit expensive at $40 but if the techniques it teaches let you get on with what you need to do without spending hours or days on wasted experimentation then maybe it’s worth it. In the end, what’s useful to other people may not be what is useful to you. I might find it incredibly educational while you might think “Well, I already knew all of that.” If you have a specific need then maybe someone can say if a specific course is worth trying but, without knowing what you already know, it’s difficult to suggest whether they would be useful to you personally.

As for the forum being a bit “mingled”, that’s pretty much just the way things are. Since the three applications share a lot of functionality it would be difficult to split things out into very delineated areas. For example, all three applications have an export function which works (as far as I know, and for the purposes of this answer) the same in each. If someone finds a specific problem with export in Photo then it could well also be a problem in Designer and Publisher and the users of those applications may want to know about it.

Some organisational efforts have been attempted by the moderators but to do something really well would require someone (or a group of people) with moderator access to go into each thread, read it all, and create the appropriate tags based on the content of the posts, which probably isn’t going to happen. Even threads specifically posted in, for example, the Designer-related forums can spread over to a discussion about Publisher or Photo depending on what is being discussed. At the moment, search is your friend, even though it doesn’t always work the way it looks like it should (or it didn’t the last time I had problems with it) and you sometimes need to figure out the exact search terms to use first.

The best way to ask about something is to take a guess depending on which of the forum names comes closest to your topic and then let the moderators move the thread if they think that’s necessary.

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Hi

Thanks for your reply, you offer a balanced view of things.

I will, as you suggest I will look into the "official free" tuition before shelling out any cash.

Maybe I need to spend a few more hours on these forums/in the AP to find my way around.

Ta

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Separating forum, by Affinity Programs, has run it course, dividing the for or against.  Desktop Windows/MacOS into three separate threads, the same for iPads.  I often find myself weeding through 20-40 post, seeking one that provides the info I seek, sometimes titles eliminates or offer program name that I may skip, if looking for Photo.

So I will not attempt opening this can of worms. It seems, the subject divides hardcore for those that own two or three products, not the single user of one product.  I will not deny one can learn tips and tricks across platforms.  I also suggest the user should make the decision to read all or those specific to their needs.  Yes it would require triple devision of programs and enlarge forum for related products.

Concerning tutorials, all offer different degree of user interface, tools, and composite. Udemy and others offer Kindle and Books downloads, with applicable resources, to work offline.  My wish, someone will offer a subscription base, downloadable magazine, based on specific program.  I just don’t have the knowledge to know if it would be profitable.  Seek the free tutorials first and purchase paid versions worth the $$$.


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Most of the official video tutorials are great to watch and very interesting but, for me, they offer very little in the way of “why” I should be doing what the tutor says, and just as importantly why I shouldn’t do it another way. The same goes for a lot of the unofficial tutorials.

Some are – in my opinion – no more than the tutor showing off what they can do rather than actually teaching anything. (Not all, but some.) For me, a tutorial should teach and not just show. Most tutorial videos that I’ve seen – not just for Affinity products – are more of a lecture than a lesson. Do this, do that, do this other thing, there goes the bell, see you next week class. I suspect that quite a few so-called tutorials on the web have been created purely to boost the author’s web presence for getting kudos or work rather than a genuine attempt to teach anyone anything. That could be just my cynicism coming through but the amount of time I’ve wasted watching videos to come out from them being none the wiser in regards to what I want to actually do is quite high.

However, even if a tutorial is brilliant with lots of description and discussion, lots of experimentation is still needed to really get to grips with the concepts and where you would use them. (I’m still way down in the flat part of the learning curve on most of the functionality in the Affinity products.)

The videos available on the official website are only those that have been released for the latest versions. If you want more you can find some – official but a bit older, or unofficial – in the Tutorials forum on this website. There are loads of lists of tutorials in there but it can be difficult to find the ones you need at any given time. For instance, how do you know if you need to learn levels adjustment, or the channel mixer, or the displacement filter or the clone brush if you don’t know what these things do? If you don’t know what you need to do you can’t know what you need to learn.

Because of that difficulty, if you have specific needs for a specific piece of work I would recommend that you give an example of what you want to achieve – “I want to make an image that looks something like this” – and ask for pointers to get you started. Otherwise you could be learning a lot of things that you might never actually use.

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4 hours ago, Cecil said:

Separating forum, by Affinity Programs, has run it course, dividing the for or against.  Desktop Windows/MacOS into three separate threads, the same for iPads.  I often find myself weeding through 20-40 post, seeking one that provides the info I seek, sometimes titles eliminates Publishes, or other program I may skip, if I looking for Photo.

So I will not attempt opening this can of worms. It seems, the subject divides hardcore for those that own two or three products, not the single user of one product.  I will not deny one can learn tips and tricks across platforms.  I also suggest the user should make the decision to read all or those specific to their needs.  Yes it would require triple devision of programs and enlarge forum for related products.

Concerning tutorials, all offer different degree of user interface, tools, and composite. Udemy and others offer Kindle and Books downloads, with applicable resources, to work offline.  My wish, someone will offer a subscription base, downloadable magazine, based on specific program.  I just don’t have the knowledge to know if it would be profitable.  Seek the free tutorials first and purchase paid versions worth the $$$.

As regards the forum you quote exactly my thoughts, I am completely new to Affinity Photo, which I chose over Adobe Elements etc thinking it would be an easier learning curve, alas!, I find the threads very difficult to manoeuvre around in, so "mingled" together, especially for a beginner.So much so, that when I come out of this forum completely I find difficulty getting back to where I was before.

On the tuition, when I can find it, it seems very good, the help on here from the users is very very good, so thanks to one & all.

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@RoyalBulwell, it is not the easiest page to find but https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/notifications/options/ allows you to set up various options you can set to be notified of new content. 


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Thanks

Don't suppose that you have any knowledge of how to import pics into AP, this is to get them from Photos on Mac Book Pro into the AP to edit.I have been told that it is not possible but it just seems silly that this cannot be done being as AP is a Apple/Mac based editing suite.

Thanks again

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34 minutes ago, RoyalBulwell said:

Thanks

Don't suppose that you have any knowledge of how to import pics into AP, this is to get them from Photos on Mac Book Pro into the AP to edit.I have been told that it is not possible but it just seems silly that this cannot be done being as AP is a Apple/Mac based editing suite.

Thanks again

I have used Mac for photo editing for years (decades) and have never used any of the Apple photo software for any of it. I just did a quick test and could open the photo from Photos in Affinity Photo by using the right click and selecting Affinity Photo from the context menu. I should note that I am using Mojave, OS 10.14.6

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I would strongly suggest you rely on using the Finder to organize your photos and disregard the convenience of Apple's Photo. As much as I like the Mac I have found that much of the convenience gives me more problems than solutions. I also don't trust iCloud or any other 'cloud' based storage. My 2 cents worth of cranky old man 'wisdom'.


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Hi

Thanks but that doesn't work for me (Catalina) If I try to open a pic to bring into AP I click new but from the option that are available the apple Photo is greyed out so no clicks work.

How do you mean that you use finder to organise, I don't understand.

Thanks

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16 hours ago, RoyalBulwell said:

Hi

Thanks but that doesn't work for me (Catalina) If I try to open a pic to bring into AP I click new but from the option that are available the apple Photo is greyed out so no clicks work.

How do you mean that you use finder to organise, I don't understand.

Thanks

Go to Apple Photos, locate photo you want to edit.  Double click the photo, upper right click Edit, go to eclipse (...) flyout will say Extensions.  Click and look for Edit In Affinity Photo and click.  The photo should open Affinity Photo program.  A known bug prevents saving your edits to Apple’s Photos app.  You can export to any folder on your Mac.  


Cecil - North Carolina

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Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection 

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Some of the better tutorials I've found are by Simon Foster, known on this forum as @drippy cat. found on Udemy. Affinity Photo Tutorials on Udemy


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Hi

Cheers for that link, I have been into the first 5 free lessons, found them very, very good.

I am going to now pay for the next stage.

Once again thank you

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10 minutes ago, RoyalBulwell said:

Hi

Cheers for that link, I have been into the first 5 free lessons, found them very, very good.

I am going to now pay for the next stage.

Once again thank you

I hope the tutorials assist you, as they did me.  One thing comes to my attention.  Many of the tutorials are expensive if new.  You can find many at a reduce cost, US $10, if you can resist the latest release.  I always wait until the price is reduced.  Newer courses are based on composites or manipulation of tools to refine a photo. 


Cecil - North Carolina

iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB. iPad Pro 10.5.

Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection 

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3 hours ago, Cecil said:

I hope the tutorials assist you, as they did me.  One thing comes to my attention.  Many of the tutorials are expensive if new.  You can find many at a reduce cost, US $10, if you can resist the latest release.  I always wait until the price is reduced.  Newer courses are based on composites or manipulation of tools to refine a photo. 

Having said that i have just gone back into the website & all the prices have rocketed from 10 to 99 dollars, just my luck

 

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That is normal, they will be reduced.  I hate to think out loud but I think they depend on catching those that will pay $99 for a class, when the program cost $50.


Cecil - North Carolina

iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB. iPad Pro 10.5.

Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection 

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