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Chills got a reaction from myclay in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
This is why Linux Devotees are ignored by most serious software people. But if you are going to play that sort of silly disingenuous game then for Linux the number of unsupported versions is in the thousands not hundreds.
I notice that it is only the losers doubt the numbers for things like market share, but only for their specific case.
It is all down to religion.
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Chills got a reaction from Frozen Death Knight in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
This is why Linux Devotees are ignored by most serious software people. But if you are going to play that sort of silly disingenuous game then for Linux the number of unsupported versions is in the thousands not hundreds.
I notice that it is only the losers doubt the numbers for things like market share, but only for their specific case.
It is all down to religion.
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Chills got a reaction from oliiix in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
Unfortunately, it is usually the case with Linux supporters.
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Chills got a reaction from Miscni in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
Having been involved with companies having to do it: I can assure you I am not. There are many problems. Which is why BMD (who I am not associated with other than as a user) only support 1 version of one distro.
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Chills got a reaction from Miscni in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
I have been involved with RTOS and critical systems' development, but not Linux. I have, however, seen the discussions about Flatpak and understand that it is not (yet?) the silver bullet some suggest. The fact that Flatpak is even needed highlights a serious problem.
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Chills got a reaction from Old Bruce in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
I have been involved with RTOS and critical systems' development, but not Linux. I have, however, seen the discussions about Flatpak and understand that it is not (yet?) the silver bullet some suggest. The fact that Flatpak is even needed highlights a serious problem.
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Chills reacted to PaulEC in Why won't Serif listen to customer needs and create a Lightroom alternative for us?
I think you're right. Of course it's impossible to know what Canva are intending for the next version of Affinity, but I think there's much more chance of some sort of DAM being integrated into v3 of the Affinity suite, than there is of them producing something now for v2.
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Chills reacted to Stef71 in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
Jou can always just wait untill the next offer comes along (there will be next offers) But remeber: Adobe won't let you cancel without paying the remainder of your subscription fee so is it really a better deal to stay there while you wait for another 50% offer from serif?
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Chills reacted to thomaso in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
Price and market are a complicated matter anyway, especially when there is a competitor…
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Chills reacted to Pšenda in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
Unfortunately, the price vs performance ratio is completely irrelevant, because the magic word "discount" is simply missing, thanks to which the customer can only be satisfied 🙂
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Chills reacted to carl123 in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
Just continue using the 6 months trial and then buy it in the Black Friday sale which they have historically had over the years
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Chills reacted to brhoom in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
I was testing the free trail. When the suit was 50% off. Now i
I decid ro buy it. But apperently the 50% is no more.
I just feel the 50% should be considered for those who started or had the trail running during the offer. Specially for speciality software like that where we need time to learn and move from one software to another.
I missed my chance now i am back to adobe since i missed the offer.
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Chills reacted to PaulEC in There should be 50% discount for those who started trail during the offer.
Your logic escapes me: apparently you would have purchased Affinity (presumably because you like it), if you could still have it at half price. Now, however, you'd rather pay a subscription to Adobe for evermore, than buy Affinity at the normal price (which is still very good value)!
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Chills got a reaction from Papaya in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
Is there anything else to say on this subject?
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Chills got a reaction from Dan C in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
@Dan C We DEMAND a CP/M port of Affinity. Also OS/2 Users are feeling neglected as are those of us using Solaris.... 🙂
It is Monday afternoon and this thread is still feeling like it is a Friday afternoon thread.
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Chills got a reaction from walt.farrell in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
I did explain why from a commercial point of view, Linux is a non-starter for Affinity.
Someone else added that the GUI that Affinity use is not supported on Linux. I had not realized this point, but it adds to my general comments. In that, Affinity would have to redesign the whole system to use a GUI that would work across all three platforms. A hell of a lot of work on its own that would make it not cost-effective for a company to do.
The result was a lot of "whining and begging" from Linux Devotees. It didn't silence anything.
The answer for the short and medium term is: There will be no Linux version of Affinity.
Can we leave it at that
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Chills got a reaction from walt.farrell in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
@Dan C We DEMAND a CP/M port of Affinity. Also OS/2 Users are feeling neglected as are those of us using Solaris.... 🙂
It is Monday afternoon and this thread is still feeling like it is a Friday afternoon thread.
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Chills reacted to walt.farrell in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
How would it help them?
The answer is there are no plans to support Linux. That tells them everything they need to know. They have two choices:
use a different OS: macOS or Windows; or use a different set of products. Knowing why Serif does not choose to support Linux does not give them any additional choices.
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Chills got a reaction from Frozen Death Knight in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
No one is being forced to do anything. The older PC's will still run Win10. (and Affinity) The reason for the TPM in Win11 is the corporate word wanted it. You know, the companies with thousands, or 100s or even just dozens of PC's. The Business world wanted it. Gamers and most Geeks are already using far more modern and powerful hardware than most business users. As are the video, photo, graphics and publishing users. So we are talking about a few home users and small businesses.
Because there is a roadmap for Microsoft Windows, the discussion about the addition of the TPM hardware to motherboards didn't happen when Win 11 was released in 2021 but way back in the very early 2010s (if not before EDIT there were discussions about this sort of thing in the 2000s at industry conferences for other things) and most motherboards from 2014 will handle Win11. PC's that won't handle Win 11 will be over a decade old. Those will still run Win 10 and Affinity.
No one panicked when the BIOS companies removed support for 5.25 floppies and then the 3.5 floppies....
No PC from at least the last decade will handle floppies.
No one panicked when they stopped doing ISA slots. (or any of the systems since)
Hardware evolves.
So does software: There are many apps that now need 64bit systems to run. They won't run on 32-bit systems.
BTW I have old PC's that won't run Win11, but that is because I need to run some old In Circuit Emulators (ICE) and some compilers that need Win7
So when you look behind the panic stories with an agenda, you find there is nothing to worry about.
If your only view is a religious hammer, everything is a nail.
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Chills got a reaction from Agrafka in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
No one is being forced to do anything. The older PC's will still run Win10. (and Affinity) The reason for the TPM in Win11 is the corporate word wanted it. You know, the companies with thousands, or 100s or even just dozens of PC's. The Business world wanted it. Gamers and most Geeks are already using far more modern and powerful hardware than most business users. As are the video, photo, graphics and publishing users. So we are talking about a few home users and small businesses.
Because there is a roadmap for Microsoft Windows, the discussion about the addition of the TPM hardware to motherboards didn't happen when Win 11 was released in 2021 but way back in the very early 2010s (if not before EDIT there were discussions about this sort of thing in the 2000s at industry conferences for other things) and most motherboards from 2014 will handle Win11. PC's that won't handle Win 11 will be over a decade old. Those will still run Win 10 and Affinity.
No one panicked when the BIOS companies removed support for 5.25 floppies and then the 3.5 floppies....
No PC from at least the last decade will handle floppies.
No one panicked when they stopped doing ISA slots. (or any of the systems since)
Hardware evolves.
So does software: There are many apps that now need 64bit systems to run. They won't run on 32-bit systems.
BTW I have old PC's that won't run Win11, but that is because I need to run some old In Circuit Emulators (ICE) and some compilers that need Win7
So when you look behind the panic stories with an agenda, you find there is nothing to worry about.
If your only view is a religious hammer, everything is a nail.
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Chills reacted to gpjo in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
As I understand it, the problem with porting doesn't come from the programming language, but from the framework being used. Some, like qt and gtk are cross-platform including Linux, while others, like the one used for Affinity, are not. This is the reason why it is, to my understanding, still not economic to port Affinity to Linux. Maybe we will see changes in the future, like a web-based version that runs in the browser (although I'm not a big fan of that) or Serif/Canva may take the decision to move to another framework which makes porting easier.
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Chills reacted to Dan C in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
I am a member of the Technical Support team at Affinity - part of that role includes moderating the Forums, which is what I have done in this thread.
It is neither my decision to make, nor part of my role to understand the reasons behind the current business decisions, the nuances of software development across multiple apps and platforms, or the financial incentives required to increase the development overheads for supporting additional OS's, such as Linux or Android.
My role is to echo what has already been said - which is that we have no plans at this time for Affinity on Linux.
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Chills reacted to Dan C in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
@Chills& @Frozen Death Knight - please can you both take a deep breath and a step back from this thread.
I'd like to remind you of the Forum Guidelines as the last few posts in this thread aren't the type of behaviour we expect from our users here.
We have left a few Linux threads unlocked here on the Forums, mainly for users who want to add their voice for the request of Affinity to be ported to Linux, or for users who are helping others run Affinity on Linux unofficially, such as the Affinity on WINE thread.
We do not need, and do not want threads that circle around the discussion of the viability of Linux as a platform, the amount of market share the OS has, the pros and cons of Linux etc.
These discussions have no bearing on the Affinity apps currently, or our developers potential of porting the software to Linux in the future.
If you wish to discuss the broader subject of Linux, please do this on another site - as the Affinity Forums are first and foremost a support platform for Affinity users, on the OS's we officially support.
Many thanks for your understanding.
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Chills got a reaction from Agrafka in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
Errr there isn't a Linux version of Affinity and so far Affinity have said there won't be.
So apart from the Engineering , statistics and project management arguments I am right as regards affinity.
You can dream otherwise but some of us have to work in reality.
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Chills got a reaction from Agrafka in Please consider Linux as a viable platform - Microsoft is bleeding users to Linux because of their choices.
It has been explained by me and others. You just don't understand the explanations.