TomM1 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Is it possible to set the cropping area on an image by dragging the cursor across rather than being limited to grabbing the nodes on the crop box? Quote website Mac mini (2018) 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7 64 GB • Radeon Pro 580 8 GB • macOS Monterey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Not if you're cropping using the Crop Tool, because you start out with a crop box, and dragging will just move the box. But if you wanted to do a masking kind of crop you could drag a rectangle using the Rectangle Tool and use that for your cropping. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, TomM1 said: Is it possible to set the cropping area on an image by dragging the cursor across rather than being limited to grabbing the nodes on the crop box? If you mean crop to selection in Photo persona then no But once you activate the crop tool, hit the Reset button to put you in Unconstrained mode (just in case you enter in another mode) then you can drag the cursor, from any point within the currently defined crop area, to define a new crop area. If you mess up dragging out the crop area you want, then just hit the Reset button to have another go ncJohn 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomM1 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 Yes, I would like to be able to drag the cursor from any point to define a new crop area. One can do this with unconstrained and original ratio but I would like it to happen when choosing one of the common ratios in the drop down. For example, choose 1:1 then drag out a square rather than searching for the handles. Quote website Mac mini (2018) 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7 64 GB • Radeon Pro 580 8 GB • macOS Monterey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 5 hours ago, TomM1 said: For example, choose 1:1 then drag out a square rather than searching for the handles. Specifically for that one, it's easy to find a side handle. Just drag it toward the middle of the image. You'll end up with a square that you can then reposition. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 hours ago, carl123 said: But once you activate the crop tool, hit the Reset button to put you in Unconstrained mode (just in case you enter in another mode) then you can drag the cursor, from any point within the currently defined crop area, to define a new crop area. Thanks for that, Carl. I hadn't discovered that before. Note, though, that you need to hit Reset even if you're already in Unconstrained mode. If you simply start in Unconstrained mode and try to drag you move the existing crop box, as I mentioned. Hitting Reset is what allows you to create the new box by dragging. ncJohn 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomM1 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Specifically for that one, it's easy to find a side handle. Just drag it toward the middle of the image. You'll end up with a square that you can then reposition. Yes, of course that works and it is a minor issue. But if you are cropping a photo of a square oil painting it is easier to start at the corner of the painting, within the photo, and drag until the square crop matches the shape. If I hadn't become accustom to this in another software I would not have mentioned it. Quote website Mac mini (2018) 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7 64 GB • Radeon Pro 580 8 GB • macOS Monterey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I feel the normal behaviour would be that crop area would be moved only from the crop box edge line and rotated only from near corner points. All other cursor positions would start a new crop area (*wish*). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Fixx said: I feel the normal behaviour would be that crop area would be moved only from the crop box edge line and rotated only from near corner points. All other cursor positions would start a new crop area (*wish*). Why? If I start out with a crop box that is smaller than the image, I might well want to just move that box around on the image to compose my crop. I would do that by clicking in the interior of the box (cursor is a 4-way move symbol) and dragging the box itself. That is a very useful behavior. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Fixx said: I feel the normal behaviour would be that crop area would be moved only from the crop box edge line and rotated only from near corner points. All other cursor positions would start a new crop area (*wish*). I feel that the "normal behavior" should be whatever is most consistent with the rest of the app's UI, even if it is considerably different from the behavior of other apps. So in that respect, moving the box from anywhere inside it is fine, but several other things are not, including the need to click the reset button to start a new selection, rotating it from anywhere outside the box instead just near its control handles, & most of all there being no 'stickiness' for the crop mode. Fixx 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Why? If I start out with a crop box that is smaller than the image, I might well want to just move that box around on the image to compose my crop. I would do that by clicking in the interior of the box (cursor is a 4-way move symbol) and dragging the box itself. That is a very useful behavior. That is just to get rid of the default crop box which covers whole image area. I there was no default "all selected" box in the beginning then move from anywhere would be ok. Default "all selected" has though some merits, like often you just need to cut one side off, leaving others untouched – when crop tool can go beyond the image borders (enlarging canvas) this may be useful. Though if there is a snap to canvas border this should not be a problem either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncJohn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 1:25 AM, TomM1 said: Yes, I would like to be able to drag the cursor from any point to define a new crop area. One can do this with unconstrained and original ratio but I would like it to happen when choosing one of the common ratios in the drop down. Isn't this how it was in previous versions? For me, this is the ideal; easy and intuitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncJohn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 11:43 PM, walt.farrell said: But if you wanted to do a masking kind of crop you could drag a rectangle using the Rectangle Tool and use that for your cropping. How does that work? In my specific situation that I use very often, I enlarge the image so that it's larger than the screen, then put the cursor in one corner and drag to the opposite corner, then crop. But when I use the Rectangle Tool, the whole image shifts when I get close to the opposite corner, so it doesn't work at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, ncJohn said: In my specific situation that I use very often, I enlarge the image so that it's larger than the screen, then put the cursor in one corner and drag to the opposite corner, then crop. But when I use the Rectangle Tool, the whole image shifts when I get close to the opposite corner, so it doesn't work at all. Don't enlarge the image that much? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Don't enlarge the image that much? Seems like a good idea to me. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncJohn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Don't enlarge the image that much? Then the composition is gone. Anyway, I figured out how to solve my issue (by reading previous posts more closely) but I can't figure out how to use the Rectangle Tool for cropping like you were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Use the rectangle as a mask: select raster image and drag it onto rectangle in Layers Panel. Or if rectangle (need a fill color) is over image select it and call Mask to Below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncJohn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, PixelPest said: Use the rectangle as a mask: select raster image and drag it onto rectangle in Layers Panel. Or if rectangle (need a fill color) is over image select it and call Mask to Below. The first part about "drag it onto rectangle in Layers Panel" I don't understand. The part about using "Mask to Below" is very interesting. I like that! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPest Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Maybe you get the idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncJohn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, PixelPest said: Maybe you get the idea: Okay, yes, I got it. Very cool! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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