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I am sure this has been discovered already, but with the new beta I can not select images anymore using "place.." from the menu. I used this to load jpg and the like, but will only select txt and rtf files.

I now drag images from explorer into the page, but prefer the old way (also working).

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Uhm, I dont know what happened, but now the usual image types work again.

It must be something content specific? Certain tool selected. Anyways, happy camper, I can continue as usual...

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This is from one of the release notes...

"Text > Insert Text from File has been removed and File > Place should be used instead. The types of files available via File > Place depends on context, for example if a Text Frame is selected then text files will be made available."

 

 

Not sure I like the new behaviour, it's sure to catch a lot of people out.


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I dont like it. Prefer a seperate menu option.

I'm adding text frames and images all the time, now I have to remember to deselect a textframe first? Theres all the space of the world in the menu, so I dont understand why it was changed to this....

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23 hours ago, JeroenK said:

I dont like it. Prefer a seperate menu option.
I'm adding text frames and images all the time, now I have to remember to deselect a textframe first? Theres all the space of the world in the menu, so I dont understand why it was changed to this....

When placing content, you should always know if something is selected and what is selected. Otherwise, there is always a risk that you will unintentionally replace content that has already been placed. If you find this too difficult, you may not want to use publication software :35_thinking:

The current behavior with only one menu item ("place") is the usual behavior. It is more efficient than it was before.


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I have not yet decided if I like the new behavior, with Place being able to place either text or images, depending on what is (or is not) selected.

However, there is still one confusing point, in my opinion. Text > Insert > Text from file was removed from the Menus (and you must now use File > Place...  but Insert Text from File still exists as an option when you right-click on a Text Frame. If that's going to remain as a right-click option it seems inconsistent not to have it in the Text menu, too.


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20 hours ago, Michail said:

 If you find this too difficult, you may not want to use publication software :35_thinking:

 

Uhm....

I have been into digital publishing and editting since the 90's. 2D & 3D animation for national television and video production for multinationals. I do all my PHP programming myself. I have a little experience, ok ... ?

I just thought that the first method was much more natural, and stated as such.

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Rustig maar Jeroen,het was gewoon een grapje.

Maar even terugkomend op je bevinding;
Place zonder een layer geselecteerd is voor alle mogelijke content.
Place met een pictureframe geselecteerd is voor externe content behalve tekst files
Place met een textframe geselecteerd is voor externe tekst files.

Jeroen, it was just a joke.

But to come back to your finding;
Place without a layer selected is for all possible content.
Place with a picture frame selected is for external content except text files
Place with a text frame selected is for external text files.
 


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20 hours ago, Michail said:

The current behavior with only one menu item ("place") is the usual behavior. It is more efficient than it was before.

I do not have a problem with the one menu item ("place"), it is the fact that it is now "context aware" which makes me have to stop and check where my cursor is or have to cancel my File > Place, move my cursor's focus and redo the File > Place just to see my image files.

And what happens when we get inline graphics in text, will we get another command to insert a graphic at the cursor's current position in the text or will File > Place have to be changed again to be able to select the graphic file we want?


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9 minutes ago, haakoo said:

Place with a picture frame selected is for all possible content.

Only content displayable as an image will be possible

"text" files etc will not be in included in the list of files presented to you via File > Place


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You're right,I adjusted it in my previous post 


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If it is going to be context aware, how about reflecting the current state in the menu? For example by placing it as (image) or (text) behind the menu-name.

That still does not prevent accidentally clicking the menu with the wrong context of course.

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Yes that is something Serif should address,
Have the right click menu only reflect chosen tool options/features
 


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My main thing is, I have images in multiple (network) locations. When I now click the Place.. option, browse to a certain location and only then find out I am in the wrong context...

Still I would prefer multiple menu entries for it though :) But hope I made it more clear this way.

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I never use the place function,
I use XNviewMP as my designated content viewer and just drag/drop into textframe or pictureframe


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33 minutes ago, haakoo said:

I never use the place function,
I use XNviewMP as my designated content viewer and just drag/drop into textframe or pictureframe

That's fine, but what if you aren't placing an image into a frame? With the Place Tool you can scale the image as you place it on the page, rather than ending up with a layer that may be much larger than your image and needing to find the corner nodes to scale the image.


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I love XnView, and use dragging into Publisher too, but as Walt explains its not so handy as the place tool.

Zoom out, drag handles, zoom back in... Its all little extra's adding up.

 

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Preparing is key,don't you think?
Have page>add picture frame>adjust to size that fits the layout
Instead of dragging with the place option from top left and hoping it is the right size(I know,snapping/guides/grid)

You drop the image in the prefabricated picture frame.
And if the picture isn't fitting to what you wanted simply adjust or rightclick the image in the layers panel and choose release.


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3 hours ago, JeroenK said:

I have been into digital publishing and editting since the 90's. 2D & 3D animation for national television and video production for multinationals. I do all my PHP programming myself. I have a little experience, ok ... ?

Your contribution made me suspect that you are not so well versed in publishing, which isn't so bad. I didn't want to offend you 9_9

3 hours ago, JeroenK said:

I just thought that the first method was much more natural, and stated as such.

No. The previous method was more cumbersome!


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3 hours ago, carl123 said:

I do not have a problem with the one menu item ("place"), it is the fact that it is now "context aware" which makes me have to stop and check where my cursor is or have to cancel my File > Place, move my cursor's focus and redo the File > Place just to see my image files.

As I said earlier, you have to pay attention to where the cursor is at the time of placement anyway. It might also be a question of habit.

3 hours ago, carl123 said:

And what happens when we get inline graphics in text, will we get another command to insert a graphic at the cursor's current position in the text or will File > Place have to be changed again to be able to select the graphic file we want?

That's a good point. In my opinion, there must be a difference between a text frame marked with the Move tool and a text cursor in a text frame. Then it would be clear if you want to exchange the whole content (move tool) or if you want to insert something at the cursor position (e.g. inline graphics).

It must be possible to automatically replace a marked text frame with an image (with image frame) when placing it. At the moment this does not even work with text (See link below).

 


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