gordo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 A CMYK document in Black only (100K text/50%K drop shadow) with GRACoL profile selected and embedded still converts to a 4/C Black when exported as a PDF and the embedded profile changes to US Sheetfed Coated V2. Testing K only.afpub Testing K only.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 This is because Affinity applications are lying to you if you are using the standard (as installed) black swatches. See the attached. fwiw, I remade all the black swatches. Mike Testing K only-2.afpub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Oops. I forgot to add about the drop shadow. Double-click on the swatch proxy in the Effects panel. Then switch to the cmyk sliders. You'll see it is a 4 color build. Change it to 100%k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Sorry, but I didn't use the swatches palette. I specified the text as 100% K. Your version appears identical to mine. And when I export yours as a PDF it also converts from 100K to 4/C and the same wrong profile is embedded. I.e. There is no difference between your file and mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Works fine here. I used the pdf/x-4 stock profile. What are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Here's a screen shot from Acrobat and I have attached the PDF. I am using Windows, though. Testing K only-2.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 I was using PDF for print. When I use the pdf/x-4 stock profile the text is 100K over printing a 4/c drop shadow. Which is still wrong. Seps.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Oh. Another thing. Did you make certain the drop shadow is really 100K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Any of the PDF/X profiles should work and set the document intent to your GRACOL profile. I have no idea what the PDF for Print profile is doing and I do not use it. If anything, it is broken as regards setting the intent at the document level. But the items are properly tagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 OK. The Export for Print is setting the blend space to RGB. That is likely the cause of the issue. This happens no matter if one sets the export color type to CMYK or not. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 OK, That's a major bug. See attached view of the seps using the pdf/x-4 stock profile Seps.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, MikeW said: Oh. Another thing. Did you make certain the drop shadow is really 100K? Yes. Is your drop shadow K only? Seps.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted January 11, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hi Gordo, I noticed that the Filter Effects colour pop out was showing the sliders as being 0,0,0,100 for me, but the colour shown was actually Rich Black. If I slide the K slider down and then back to 100 and then export it goes out correctly. Could you check that for us please? It could just be the Filter Effects is incorrectly showing the wrong slider position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Tried that. Doesn't make any difference. The problem remains. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The devs are working on some more fixes for K only PDF exports so hopefully this will be resolved within the next couple of builds Cheers SrPx 1 Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Chris_K said: The devs are working on some more fixes for K only PDF exports so hopefully this will be resolved within the next couple of builds Cheers Good, because it’s a show stopper if it’s not fixed. And just to be clear, this refers to a K only graphic in a CMYK document that’s exported as a PDF. SrPx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 1.7.0.227 The black bug continues :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwhit Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, gordo said: 1.7.0.227 The black bug continues :-( How about in the current beta 238? I also need this to work but have not had time to try in latest. -------------------- iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2020 i7 72GB) • AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB • macOS Sonoma MacBook Pro, 13", M1 2020 • 16 GB • macOS Sonoma iPad Air 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 There is support in Designer beta (since 1.7.0.231 on Windows) for a "K only" option when placing images into a CMYK document. I do not know if it would/will affect black text when exporting to PDF, or if it only affects embedded images. I do not see any mention of this in the Release Notes for Designer on Mac, but if it's on Windows it will presumably appear in Designer for Mac, too. Whatever it does will presumably also make its way into Publisher (Windows and Mac) at some point, too, though it does not seem to be in Publisher beta for Windows yet. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, nwhit said: How about in the current beta 238? I also need this to work but have not had time to try in latest. 1.7.0.227 is the most current version (MAC OS) - downloaded it this morning and checked again just now and Affinity Publisher says I'm up to date. Maybe it's different on Windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, gordo said: 1.7.0.227 is the most current version (MAC OS) - downloaded it this morning and checked again just now and Affinity says I'm up to date. No, .238 is the most current, it simply may not be on auto-update yet. The new releases are always made available via the forums before being made available by other channels. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: No, .238 is the most current, it simply may not be on auto-update yet. The new releases are always made available via the forums before being made available by other channels. Goofy. I downloaded the .238 version and again, the black issue is still there :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, gordo said: I downloaded the .238 version and again, the black issue is still there :-( As I said, the K Only support/option seems to currently be only in Designer, and possibly only in Designer for Windows. As Publisher clearly has the same issue, I expect we'll see that support in Publisher in an upcoming beta release, too. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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